Should some of us trapped just commit suicide?

[Ghost]

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[Hook]

Don't give the bastards the satisfaction, as John Wayne would say.

[boycottamericanwomen]

Seriously man, get out of America, whatever it takes. Get some shit job for a few months or whatever, save up enough for the airfare, and fly over to The Phillipines, Thailand, South Korea or wherever. You can get a job teaching English and then you don't have to worry about ever having to come back to America.

I left America and feel a million times better. America is truly hell on earth, a very evil toxic place. Once you leave America, your life improves 100 percent. Do whatever it takes to escape America, hell, you can even go live in Mexico, and that wouldn't be too hard, as all you would need is a bus ticket. You can probably teach English in Mexico, or whatever, but it's easy to scrap by. Just get out of America as soon as possible, please.

[ErikHeaven]

Its always darkest before the dawn. I too had a job come at the ninth hour so do not give up and the offer still stands. Leave me your number so i can give you some encouragement.

[NorthAmericanguy]

When you're broke as hell...
When you're surrounded by moronic illogical women...
When you're body is having kidney, deadly stomach ulcers, and other major issues...
When you have no car...
When you're brother makes the choice of marrying a black American woman...
When you black sister make drives you insane into rage filled anger...
When society has destroyed you're confidence and sanity...
When you were born 5'5 most people don't give a shit about you....

My brother is getting married to a black woman and I'm forced to go out of respect. My older bro, a once great man with massive potential, great looks, ripped body, and a badass car now has a kid, sold his car for some ugly family car, is getting chubby, no longer TALKS ABOUT HOW SCREWED UP SOCIETY IS. My bro used to be interested in EVERYTHING we here at this site talked about. For whatever reason now he acts like a f***ing drone. He doesn't got any money but is still getting married because HIS GIRL said so. How the f**k did my bro an alpha beast turn into a beta?

My bro had far FARRRR more potential at everything in life than I did. On top of that my mother and feminist sister support this bullshit. I feel like I've lost a great badass warrior right now. My life at this point is unfixable and now my bro is screwing up so bad.


I ask, is it better to commit suicide before I someday turn into a crazy sociopath killer? I mean if somebody is as deeply trapped as me why even bother going on. Btw we're all men here so don't sugar coat the truth just so I'll feel better. I'm a damn man and I want you all to give it to me straight.

My idea is if science is correct about dimensions in space and time, our consciousness hopefully is shifted to the 5th dimension after death. 5th dimension is where everything that can happen already did happen thus you are dead connecting you into a 5th-being-self giving you the ability to make a choice about a next existence.

I failed to mention, in the mean time, you might want to look into supplementing with herbs to help you cope with your difficult situation. Stress is a natural process in life, however the Earth has provided us with plants that we can eat that limits the amount of mental suffering. I'm not sure how it all works, but IT WORKS, and you're not left with any kind of hangover or addiction that you get with street drugs or pharmaceutical drugs.



I recommend a supplement called Greens Plus, it's sold at Vitamin Shoppe for 31 bucks. I know you don't have any cash but I'm just letting you know of this option because I use it and it has worked for me when I'm under high stress.


http://greensplus.com/index.php


Let me show you the right can to get:

[momopi]

When you're broke as hell...
When you're surrounded by moronic illogical women...
When you're body is having kidney, deadly stomach ulcers, and other major issues...
When you have no car...
When you're brother makes the choice of marrying a black American woman...
When you black sister make drives you insane into rage filled anger...
When society has destroyed you're confidence and sanity...
When you were born 5'5 most people don't give a shit about you....

What is your education and work history?

[Free]

I personally know 2 cases right off hand where the attempted suicides failed. Cases where otherwise the efforts typically would have gone to completion. Then, short years afterwards, as things change and time usually heals, their lives radically turned around for the better. Every now and then I softly remind them if their attempts would have succeeded, they obviously wouldn't have had all the good experiences since those awful dark hours.

Poster, anyone reading, don't give up! No one can't predict the future and that's ultimately what suicidal people are doing in their despairing moments. They're seeing it all as hopeless, in other words, basing the future on their present situations. Anyone's life could radically turn around for the good the next day, or next week, or next year. We don't know. We shouldn't be so bold as to think we know the future and that it would continue to contain winter months and years.

Distract yourself for the positive. Stop focusing on the negative so much. Don't ignore it, it needs to be addressed, but certainly don't dwell on it. That's a downward spiral. Set a goal, any goal, mini goals and begin something, anything. Also, take up easy to do hobbies that cost nothing.

Best to anyone in these heavy moments.

[All_That_Is_Man]

When you're broke as hell...
When you're surrounded by moronic illogical women...
When you're body is having kidney, deadly stomach ulcers, and other major issues...
When you have no car...
When you're brother makes the choice of marrying a black American woman...
When you black sister make drives you insane into rage filled anger...
When society has destroyed you're confidence and sanity...
When you were born 5'5 most people don't give a shit about you....

My brother is getting married to a black woman and I'm forced to go out of respect. My older bro, a once great man with massive potential, great looks, ripped body, and a badass car now has a kid, sold his car for some ugly family car, is getting chubby, no longer TALKS ABOUT HOW SCREWED UP SOCIETY IS. My bro used to be interested in EVERYTHING we here at this site talked about. For whatever reason now he acts like a f***ing drone. He doesn't got any money but is still getting married because HIS GIRL said so. How the f**k did my bro an alpha beast turn into a beta?

I'm 25 and living in the exact same situation as you (with a few exceptions):

I, too, am broke as hell... (but I sell my creative arts and stuff around the house that I don't want anymore on sites like eBay and Etsy)
I, too, am surrounded by moronic illogical women... (but I don't expect anything greater from most American women)
I, too, have no car... (but I accept that a car is a luxury that causes more financial problems than anything else)
I, too, have a brother who is engaged and plans to marry a black American woman... (but I know she is just a bitter older woman who is only using him because he is desperate and weak)
I, too, have had my sanity destroyed by Western society... (but I'm convinced that when I'm getting laid in Latin America, easten Asia or any non-feminist region, my sanity will surely return)

My brother was a straight "A" student throughout high school and involved in more sports and activities than anyone can count on two hands! He went to an Ivy League university in one of the New England states and graduated with flying colors (and a Bachelors degree). So what does he do? Out of sheer desperation, he goes to a nightclub in Chicago, meets an unattractive woman nearly 10 years older than himself at the bar, and convinces himself that she is his soulmate. "What the f***ing f**k", right?? She is black, yes, but so are we, LOL. No real biggie there (as much as I appreciate and highly prefer non-black women). I couldn't believe that he actually believed her when she said she is still a virgin! What bullshit! Yeah, because 30-something-year-old, Christian virgin females REALLY hang out at nightclubs in Chicago, picking up suitable mates! Sure!!
Long story short, he, too, is a drone who (unless he wakes up) will soon be married to an older woman who has done nothing but manipulate and use him throughout the entirety of their 5-year relationship.
Anyway, I've learned that suicide is not the answer. f**k not having money, f**k not being able to have a girlfriend in America, forget our male friends/relatives who bend over backwards for an unappreciative ugly cunt, forget not having a car when 90% of your peers have brand new sedans that mommy and daddy bought for them, and forget destructive family members. At the end of the day, health is the only thing that actually matters, whether you are stuck in the U.S. or happily traveling abroad!

[Disillusioned_American]

When you're body is having kidney, deadly stomach ulcers, and other major issues...

I hear you man. I've thought about suicide myself. A couple of discs between my upper thoracic vertebra are basically degenerated as f**k. I experienced a mishap during my time in the military that left me with a lingering, dull, chronic pain. Working construction and manual labor jobs have excacerbated this condition of mine. On a scale from 1-10, I would rate my average daily pain level in that region of my mid-upper back at probably only a 4, however the pain is mostly CONSTANT. Then to make matter worse, I f***ed it up again several years back during a weight lifting session. Hasn't felt right since. Ironically, I feel best when I am either walking, or lying down. I can't tolerate sitting or standing still for long periods of time, and prefer to use either a kneeling-posture chair, or a stool (I'm tall). The kicker: I am only thirty years old.

The VA basically took X-Rays, offered to put me on a regimen of narcotics after trying unsuccessfully to treat my pain with SNRI's (shit made me feel nuts), and then they essentially told me to f**k off when I complained to them about my options. I don't even want to think about surgery at this point in my life; f**k that! I chose not to be on opioid narcotics because I don't want to be a f***ing junkie at this stage of my life. I have used cannabis here and there to treat the pain with some success. However, because I don't have a lot of friends, it's hard to find a good hook-up, and so I've gone through getting burned and ripped-off by shady faggot dealers, or gotten what seemed like mildewy or pesticide-laden mexican cartel bullshit. I thought about going to CA to see if I can get a script for it, but I hate CA and plus I don't have cancer or aids, so I'm not sure they would even prescribe it for me. Plus this shit further complicates any prospects I have for going overseas; how would I get the proper treatment?

To make matters worse, the pain I experience often affects my mood, and so people probably assume by my uncomfortable body language at times, that I am some weak p***y, or that I don't project enough confidence, so they walk all over me. This kind of shit is maddening! I totally hate the government and culture of the US. I think about suicide, but remember the people I would hurt by giving in like that. I try to count my blessings too; I am happy to be alive and to be a somewhat intelligent and sensitive person, which there aren't many of in this world it seems.

[jamesbond]

I'm 25 and living in the exact same situation as you (with a few exceptions):

I, too, am broke as hell... (but I sell my creative arts and stuff around the house that I don't want anymore on sites like eBay and Etsy)
I, too, am surrounded by moronic illogical women... (but I don't expect anything greater from most American women)
I, too, have no car... (but I accept that a car is a luxury that causes more financial problems than anything else)
I, too, have a brother who is engaged and plans to marry a black American woman... (but I know she is just a bitter older woman who is only using him because he is desperate and weak)
I, too, have had my sanity destroyed by Western society... (but I'm convinced that when I'm getting laid in Latin America, easten Asia or any non-feminist region, my sanity will surely return)

My brother was a straight "A" student throughout high school and involved in more sports and activities than anyone can count on two hands! He went to an Ivy League university in one of the New England states and graduated with flying colors (and a Bachelors degree). So what does he do? Out of sheer desperation, he goes to a nightclub in Chicago, meets an unattractive woman nearly 10 years older than himself at the bar, and convinces himself that she is his soulmate. "What the f***ing f**k", right?? She is black, yes, but so are we, LOL. No real biggie there (as much as I appreciate and highly prefer non-black women). I couldn't believe that he actually believed her when she said she is still a virgin! What bullshit! Yeah, because 30-something-year-old, Christian virgin females REALLY hang out at nightclubs in Chicago, picking up suitable mates! Sure!!
Long story short, he, too, is a drone who (unless he wakes up) will soon be married to an older woman who has done nothing but manipulate and use him throughout the entirety of their 5-year relationship.
Anyway, I've learned that suicide is not the answer. f**k not having money, f**k not being able to have a girlfriend in America, forget our male friends/relatives who bend over backwards for an unappreciative ugly cunt, forget not having a car when 90% of your peers have brand new sedans that mommy and daddy bought for them, and forget destructive family members. At the end of the day, health is the only thing that actually matters, whether you are stuck in the U.S. or happily traveling abroad!

Welcome to the forum, "All_That_Is_Man" your brother is a good example of what NOT to do (marry a woman older than yourself, marry an American woman, marry a woman you met at a bar).

I try to avoid American woman like the plague. Also, I wouldn't touch an older woman with a ten foot pole. I avoid women who go to bars and clubs like I would avoid bubonic plague!

[All_That_Is_Man]

I'm 25 and living in the exact same situation as you (with a few exceptions):

I, too, am broke as hell... (but I sell my creative arts and stuff around the house that I don't want anymore on sites like eBay and Etsy)
I, too, am surrounded by moronic illogical women... (but I don't expect anything greater from most American women)
I, too, have no car... (but I accept that a car is a luxury that causes more financial problems than anything else)
I, too, have a brother who is engaged and plans to marry a black American woman... (but I know she is just a bitter older woman who is only using him because he is desperate and weak)
I, too, have had my sanity destroyed by Western society... (but I'm convinced that when I'm getting laid in Latin America, easten Asia or any non-feminist region, my sanity will surely return)

My brother was a straight "A" student throughout high school and involved in more sports and activities than anyone can count on two hands! He went to an Ivy League university in one of the New England states and graduated with flying colors (and a Bachelors degree). So what does he do? Out of sheer desperation, he goes to a nightclub in Chicago, meets an unattractive woman nearly 10 years older than himself at the bar, and convinces himself that she is his soulmate. "What the f***ing f**k", right?? She is black, yes, but so are we, LOL. No real biggie there (as much as I appreciate and highly prefer non-black women). I couldn't believe that he actually believed her when she said she is still a virgin! What bullshit! Yeah, because 30-something-year-old, Christian virgin females REALLY hang out at nightclubs in Chicago, picking up suitable mates! Sure!!
Long story short, he, too, is a drone who (unless he wakes up) will soon be married to an older woman who has done nothing but manipulate and use him throughout the entirety of their 5-year relationship.
Anyway, I've learned that suicide is not the answer. f**k not having money, f**k not being able to have a girlfriend in America, forget our male friends/relatives who bend over backwards for an unappreciative ugly cunt, forget not having a car when 90% of your peers have brand new sedans that mommy and daddy bought for them, and forget destructive family members. At the end of the day, health is the only thing that actually matters, whether you are stuck in the U.S. or happily traveling abroad!

Welcome to the forum, "All_That_Is_Man" your brother is a good example of what NOT to do (marry a woman older than yourself, marry an American woman, marry a woman you met at a bar).

I try to avoid American woman like the plague. Also, I wouldn't touch an older woman with a ten foot pole. I avoid women who go to bars and clubs like I would avoid bubonic plague!

I couldn't agree with you more, jamesbond. I don't even wanna know what's going through my brother's head, but you would think that an Ivy League graduate wouldn't pull some idiotic shit like this!
And yes, older American women are quite disgusting. I mean, even at your peak of horniness/desperation, older American women should ONLY be used for a blowjob, not an engagement ring and a meal ticket!!

[xiongmao]

Disillusioned_American - read a book called "The Mindbody Prescription" and find out how YOU can take control of your body. It really does work, and I cured a health problem of myself by simply reading this book. Don't fall into the trap of thinking that pain is permanent - it's not.

I had some dark days in my early 20's, but life for me has just got progressively better.

If you want kids then marry any woman, but if you're not so fussed about the kids thing then marriage is a bad idea.

Spend a few months in Asia teaching English or something and you'll be able to meet some incredible women. There are bad apples out there as well, but in each Asian country there are only around half a dozen different types of woman, and you'll soon learn to recognise them and why they want a Western husband.

[Maker55]

While our surroundings contribute to our negative thoughts. We have to FIX it.

It is our responsibilities to fix the problem. Stop waiting for things to happen and take charge and create opportunities.

I had to learn this for myself and it's helped save my life.

It's easier to sit back and whine than to fix the damn problem.

I know how hard it is.

Having to put up with American society and its women but only you can fix your life. Start today. Start right now and fix it. Read whatever books you need to. Find out how to leverage the internet to make money. Attend seminars. Speak to people who have made lots of money and find out how they did it.

Stop blaming bad luck, your parents, the government, women(although western women do suck), American society(I know it sucks too), lack of opportunities or other excuses.