Beauty Is Rare And Not Relative

[rehman]

They don't realize what a nightmare dating is for younger generations of men. They can't comprehend the sheer level of hypergamy that has formed. If they were amongst our age group they'd likely be incels too.

I believe somebody should make a creative solution to help the incel issue like something that artificially raises the average value of men or that brings the average woman down a peg. That's just an example. I think it will have to come from somewhere that was never tried before or is novel because completely changing back the clock on sexual norms and gender roles is completely unpalatable.

There is no solution. Just like anything with value, like gold for example, it is rare and not easily attainable. Good genetics is like gold, there is few in supply and a huge demand for it. You cannot artificially increase the desire for men because the only thing women truly want is good genetics, which is in short supply. You cannot increase the supply of good genetics in the same way you cannot increase the supply in gold.

If you were to let women design their dream man, everything they could ever ask for, there would be little distinction from one another. You can see this in women's romance novels. The ideal man for a woman is tall, handsome, rich, high status etc. There is little nuance to what an attractive man is in the eyes of a woman. It is a tough pill to swallow (as you can see in the responses above) that we have very little to zero control to how desirable we are to a woman. Having a billion dollars doesn't make you any more sexy to a woman, she just sees the money. So many dudes think luring women in with their money is true attraction, it is not. A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

[Shemp]

A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

Then why weren't those genes for shortness and baldness eliminated from the gene pool long ago by female selection? Because they are trivial in the grand scheme of things. Immune system and ability of body to get work done is what counts in the real world, as you would surely know if you had an old fashioned job like farmer or lumberjack or soldier. Furthermore, baldness usually occurs AFTER men have finished mating, so definitely not an issue.

[my life is trash]

Ugly men have stopped reproducing but ugly women continue

[rehman]

A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

Then why weren't those genes for shortness and baldness eliminated from the gene pool long ago by female selection? Because they are trivial in the grand scheme of things. Immune system and ability of body to get work done is what counts in the real world, as you would surely know if you had an old fashioned job like farmer or lumberjack or soldier. Furthermore, baldness usually occurs AFTER men have finished mating, so definitely not an issue.

really? I have explained with an example of ferraris/toyotas. Women SETTLE.

and baldness occurs after men have finished mating? what on earth? men don't bald before they have kids? and even if I agree with you here, what is your point? women don't want to f**k bald men.

[Shemp]

A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

Then why weren't those genes for shortness and baldness eliminated from the gene pool long ago by female selection? Because they are trivial in the grand scheme of things. Immune system and ability of body to get work done is what counts in the real world, as you would surely know if you had an old fashioned job like farmer or lumberjack or soldier. Furthermore, baldness usually occurs AFTER men have finished mating, so definitely not an issue.

really? I have explained with an example of ferraris/toyotas. Women SETTLE.

and baldness occurs after men have finished mating? what on earth? men don't bald before they have kids? and even if I agree with you here, what is your point? women don't want to f**k bald men.

Maybe if you got out from feeling sorry for yourself behind your computer in your mother's basement and got a manly type outdoors job, such as those I previously discussed, you would understand that, for 99% of human history, good genetics meant immune system and ability to do hard physical labor, plus intelligence about manipulating physical reality of nature versus pseudo intelligence for spouting incel verbiage. Women are not interested in breeding with men who can win male beauty pageants but who can't drink water from a dirty pond without dying of dysentery, can't resist ordinary communicable diseases, can't engage in challenging physical activities like horseback riding in armed combat conditions, can't live on a very short supply of food, etc. Same is true for all mammals. It's true that females want good genes, but good genes is about more than a pretty face. It's typically homosexuals and modern unpaid whore type women who emulate homosexuals who are most obsessed with male beauty standards (pretty face, bodybuilding body, etc), whereas healthy heterosexual women looking to get pregnant tend to prefer average looking men, because average specimen is always healthiest in any mammal species.

[rehman]

A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

Then why weren't those genes for shortness and baldness eliminated from the gene pool long ago by female selection? Because they are trivial in the grand scheme of things. Immune system and ability of body to get work done is what counts in the real world, as you would surely know if you had an old fashioned job like farmer or lumberjack or soldier. Furthermore, baldness usually occurs AFTER men have finished mating, so definitely not an issue.

really? I have explained with an example of ferraris/toyotas. Women SETTLE.

and baldness occurs after men have finished mating? what on earth? men don't bald before they have kids? and even if I agree with you here, what is your point? women don't want to f**k bald men.

Maybe if you got out from feeling sorry for yourself behind your computer in your mother's basement and got a manly type outdoors job, such as those I previously discussed, you would understand that, for 99% of human history, good genetics meant immune system and ability to do hard physical labor, plus intelligence about manipulating physical reality of nature versus pseudo intelligence for spouting incel verbiage. Women are not interested in breeding with men who can win male beauty pageants but who can't drink water from a dirty pond without dying of dysentery, can't resist ordinary communicable diseases, can't engage in challenging physical activities like horseback riding in armed combat conditions, can't live on a very short supply of food, etc. Same is true for all mammals. It's true that females want good genes, but good genes is about more than a pretty face. It's typically homosexuals and modern unpaid whore type women who emulate homosexuals who are most obsessed with male beauty standards (pretty face, bodybuilding body, etc), whereas healthy heterosexual women looking to get pregnant tend to prefer average looking men, because average specimen is always healthiest in any mammal species.

I'm an electrician i meet about 15-20 new people every week.

I don't care to convince you more.

[vlkmo]

There is no solution. Just like anything with value, like gold for example, it is rare and not easily attainable. Good genetics is like gold, there is few in supply and a huge demand for it. You cannot artificially increase the desire for men because the only thing women truly want is good genetics, which is in short supply. You cannot increase the supply of good genetics in the same way you cannot increase the supply in gold.

If you were to let women design their dream man, everything they could ever ask for, there would be little distinction from one another. You can see this in women's romance novels. The ideal man for a woman is tall, handsome, rich, high status etc. There is little nuance to what an attractive man is in the eyes of a woman. It is a tough pill to swallow (as you can see in the responses above) that we have very little to zero control to how desirable we are to a woman. Having a billion dollars doesn't make you any more sexy to a woman, she just sees the money. So many dudes think luring women in with their money is true attraction, it is not. A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

If women can be social engineered into thinking every body is beautiful and things that are extra-biological, why can't the same be used to advantage men?

Are we just going to have to accept this as the new normal of this era while wistfully feeling that if we were born 20 or 30 years earlier, we would've had the experience we craved or if it would've been more tolerable?

I don't want this to become the new normal. I won't accept that one has to work harder or have better genetics than their parents and grands generation for a lesser reward or a less attractive woman. I don't necessarily believe that it is, but a lot of the incels say that.

[rehman]

There is no solution. Just like anything with value, like gold for example, it is rare and not easily attainable. Good genetics is like gold, there is few in supply and a huge demand for it. You cannot artificially increase the desire for men because the only thing women truly want is good genetics, which is in short supply. You cannot increase the supply of good genetics in the same way you cannot increase the supply in gold.

If you were to let women design their dream man, everything they could ever ask for, there would be little distinction from one another. You can see this in women's romance novels. The ideal man for a woman is tall, handsome, rich, high status etc. There is little nuance to what an attractive man is in the eyes of a woman. It is a tough pill to swallow (as you can see in the responses above) that we have very little to zero control to how desirable we are to a woman. Having a billion dollars doesn't make you any more sexy to a woman, she just sees the money. So many dudes think luring women in with their money is true attraction, it is not. A balding, short man can NEVER be hot to a woman, he could have all the money in the world, it doesn't matter. His genes are not worthy.

If women can be social engineered into thinking every body is beautiful and things that are extra-biological, why can't the same be used to advantage men?

Are we just going to have to accept this as the new normal of this era while wistfully feeling that if we were born 20 or 30 years earlier, we would've had the experience we craved or if it would've been more tolerable?

I don't want this to become the new normal. I won't accept that one has to work harder or have better genetics than their parents and grands generation for a lesser reward or a less attractive woman. I don't necessarily believe that it is, but a lot of the incels say that.

you can't dictate the market.

[Shemp]

I'm an electrician

You're also a self-pitying autist who is unable to see reality. There is a recent post in this very forum about a woman whose dream sex partner was a literal dog (dogpill) and there also are apparently women who are attracted to people like @Voyager1. Love is blind.

While I understand your unwillingness to continue debating when you are on the losing side, for the sake of other readers I will note that your have never addressed the basic issue that genes that are inherently unattractive to all women tend to get weeded out rapidly. Women do not have to settle for men that are truly genetically undesirable to all women. Women can all get pregnant from the supposedly "top" men specimens. But they don't. On the contrary, substandard women tend to fall in love with and get pregnant from substandard men. The women who mate with Voyager1 would be a fine example of this. These women weren't forced to settle for that wretched male specimen nor did they do it for money because he is poor. They were simply as pitiful examples of the female sex as Voyager1 is of the male sex and like attracts like. What do you think, @yick?

[yick]

I'm an electrician

You're also a self-pitying autist who is unable to see reality. There is a recent post in this very forum about a woman whose dream sex partner was a literal dog (dogpill) and there also are apparently women who are attracted to people like @Voyager1. Love is blind.

While I understand your unwillingness to continue debating when you are on the losing side, for the sake of other readers I will note that your have never addressed the basic issue that genes that are inherently unattractive to all women tend to get weeded out rapidly. Women do not have to settle for men that are truly genetically undesirable to all women. Women can all get pregnant from the supposedly "top" men specimens. But they don't. On the contrary, substandard women tend to fall in love with and get pregnant from substandard men. The women who mate with Voyager1 would be a fine example of this. These women weren't forced to settle for that wretched male specimen nor did they do it for money because he is poor. They were simply as pitiful examples of the female sex as Voyager1 is of the male sex and like attracts like. What do you think, @yick?

Quite right, Frank!

You see that a lot in the locality where I am from, below average people ending up mating and very successfully too - they look similar and have similar habits, interests and IQ - they're happy and if not - they end up with someone of a similar standing to replace/be replaced. I know a guy who has never had a job and takes drugs but has fathered over 20 children - all daughters - but none of the women concerned would be battling for Miss World or even a full time job. Of course, none of these women would be in the range for a 'chad' but then I think the idea of being with one would freak them out.

Saying that, most men wouldn't even think about going abroad to find a woman that is an improvement on what they can get at home because most men have no imagination and are like Homer Simpson and donuts, if a woman is there and somewhat available - they will go for that option than going abroad so the mediocrity continues unabated - for centuries that is how it has been but of course with cheaper air travel and far away places becoming more affordable - the world is in a better place for men who don't want to 'settle' but it is a tiny minority.

[yick]

It goes without saying @Voyager1 is a low grade human being - that in itself is not uncommon but I suppose he went to Russia to get himself a white woman because he couldn't get one at home as a young man. He went working for the American Academy in Moscow - probably ill trained and uneducated and managed to finagle a living out there until they wised up and kicked him out which lead him to life in the Ukraine - nothing wrong with doing either really but it's when @Voyager1 makes out he has never paid for sex or is some kind of stud when he is no such thing - the studs of America do not go to Russia to work as English teachers in their early twenties like @Voyager1 had to do.

[Voyager1]

He went working for the American Academy in Moscow - probably ill trained and uneducated and managed to finagle a living out there until they wised up and kicked him out which lead him to life in the Ukraine - nothing wrong with doing either really

Apparently you can't read either. It was called American Language Center. Winston worked there too. I wasn't fired. My visa ran out and I just never came back dolt.

[my life is trash]

I'm an electrician

You're also a self-pitying autist who is unable to see reality. There is a recent post in this very forum about a woman whose dream sex partner was a literal dog (dogpill) and there also are apparently women who are attracted to people like @Voyager1. Love is blind.

While I understand your unwillingness to continue debating when you are on the losing side, for the sake of other readers I will note that your have never addressed the basic issue that genes that are inherently unattractive to all women tend to get weeded out rapidly. Women do not have to settle for men that are truly genetically undesirable to all women. Women can all get pregnant from the supposedly "top" men specimens. But they don't. On the contrary, substandard women tend to fall in love with and get pregnant from substandard men. The women who mate with Voyager1 would be a fine example of this. These women weren't forced to settle for that wretched male specimen nor did they do it for money because he is poor. They were simply as pitiful examples of the female sex as Voyager1 is of the male sex and like attracts like. What do you think, @yick?

Quite right, Frank!

You see that a lot in the locality where I am from, below average people ending up mating and very successfully too - they look similar and have similar habits, interests and IQ - they're happy and if not - they end up with someone of a similar standing to replace/be replaced. I know a guy who has never had a job and takes drugs but has fathered over 20 children - all daughters - but none of the women concerned would be battling for Miss World or even a full time job. Of course, none of these women would be in the range for a 'chad' but then I think the idea of being with one would freak them out.

Saying that, most men wouldn't even think about going abroad to find a woman that is an improvement on what they can get at home because most men have no imagination and are like Homer Simpson and donuts, if a woman is there and somewhat available - they will go for that option than going abroad so the mediocrity continues unabated - for centuries that is how it has been but of course with cheaper air travel and far away places becoming more affordable - the world is in a better place for men who don't want to 'settle' but it is a tiny minority.

It's always "I know a guy who..." argument which is bullshit and idiots like you lie and make up someone. Frank is an old retard who literally has to pay females to give him company (sugar daddy) yet he calls other people an incel. If his genetics weren't such shit he wouldn't have to do that, just like Yick wouldn't have to travel to poor shithole countries for sex because his incel genetics were too low quality to get a woman in the UK. This forum is basically a bunch of old loser incels in denial. You wouldn't have to go abroad to the shittiest countries or be a "sugar daddy" (having to pay women to be near you because your old, ugly, and mentally retarded) if you weren't incels yourselves. Making up lies about people you know or saw doesn't count as a real argument you f***ing mug, but you boomer retards are too dumb to understand that.

[yick]

He went working for the American Academy in Moscow - probably ill trained and uneducated and managed to finagle a living out there until they wised up and kicked him out which lead him to life in the Ukraine - nothing wrong with doing either really

Apparently you can't read either. It was called American Language Center. Winston worked there too. I wasn't fired. My visa ran out and I just never came back dolt.

You were there on a tourist visa and working illegally? Figures.

[yick]

I'm an electrician

You're also a self-pitying autist who is unable to see reality. There is a recent post in this very forum about a woman whose dream sex partner was a literal dog (dogpill) and there also are apparently women who are attracted to people like @Voyager1. Love is blind.

While I understand your unwillingness to continue debating when you are on the losing side, for the sake of other readers I will note that your have never addressed the basic issue that genes that are inherently unattractive to all women tend to get weeded out rapidly. Women do not have to settle for men that are truly genetically undesirable to all women. Women can all get pregnant from the supposedly "top" men specimens. But they don't. On the contrary, substandard women tend to fall in love with and get pregnant from substandard men. The women who mate with Voyager1 would be a fine example of this. These women weren't forced to settle for that wretched male specimen nor did they do it for money because he is poor. They were simply as pitiful examples of the female sex as Voyager1 is of the male sex and like attracts like. What do you think, @yick?

Quite right, Frank!

You see that a lot in the locality where I am from, below average people ending up mating and very successfully too - they look similar and have similar habits, interests and IQ - they're happy and if not - they end up with someone of a similar standing to replace/be replaced. I know a guy who has never had a job and takes drugs but has fathered over 20 children - all daughters - but none of the women concerned would be battling for Miss World or even a full time job. Of course, none of these women would be in the range for a 'chad' but then I think the idea of being with one would freak them out.

Saying that, most men wouldn't even think about going abroad to find a woman that is an improvement on what they can get at home because most men have no imagination and are like Homer Simpson and donuts, if a woman is there and somewhat available - they will go for that option than going abroad so the mediocrity continues unabated - for centuries that is how it has been but of course with cheaper air travel and far away places becoming more affordable - the world is in a better place for men who don't want to 'settle' but it is a tiny minority.

It's always "I know a guy who..." argument which is bullshit and idiots like you lie and make up someone. Frank is an old retard who literally has to pay females to give him company (sugar daddy) yet he calls other people an incel. If his genetics weren't such shit he wouldn't have to do that, just like Yick wouldn't have to travel to poor shithole countries for sex because his incel genetics were too low quality to get a woman in the UK. This forum is basically a bunch of old loser incels in denial. You wouldn't have to go abroad to the shittiest countries or be a "sugar daddy" (having to pay women to be near you because your old, ugly, and mentally retarded) if you weren't incels yourselves. Making up lies about people you know or saw doesn't count as a real argument you f***ing mug, but you boomer retards are too dumb to understand that.

I go to countries to work, something you have no idea of you utter bum.