Don't bring her back to the USA (Your Country)!

[Mercury]

Ghost is right. It is time to realize that females are not real people in the sense that men are and have no character to speak of; not even any bad character. They are fluid beings who take on the traits rewarded in their immediate environment, which in the West of course means becoming hateful sluts. If you were going to import a wife you would want a strategy for keeping her isolated from mainstream society and some form of exit strategy.

Importing a woman is the biggest mistake you could ever make. Imagine importing a beautiful huge glass sculpture, and then about 50 military men blast it with bazookas, reducing it to broken shards in a matter of seconds. Same thing with importing a woman, she gets exposed to America's toxic culture, she gets arrested even by the FBI and thrown in jail for talking to strangers, and the police, FBI, and corrections officers are; "We don't know what country you think you're from where they let you socialize with whomever you want to, but in the United States of America, it absolutely does not fly at all. What you are doing constitutes the Federal felony offense of economic disruption in this country, which is investigated by the FBI, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, and carries a sentence of one hundred seventy five (175) years to life in prison and/or the death penalty for all involved."

[MrMan]

My wife and I have spent about a fourth of our married years in Indonesia and the rest in the USA. I agree it depends on the woman.

[publicduende]

My wife and I have spent about a fourth of our married years in Indonesia and the rest in the USA. I agree it depends on the woman.

I think it boils down to two simple facts:

• how old (or young) she is: "la donna e' mobile" (women are volatile), says a famous aria from Giuseppe Verdi, and she is a lot more so when she is still young and immature - the typical 50-yo American man repatriating a 19-yo clueless FIlipina who thus far had only lived in a wooden hut in the countryside, may well be in for a surprise, as soon as said girl finds herself immersed in the opulence of a first world city. She will probably not know how to deal with the culture shock and may be easily swayed by the people she meets along the way. A single conversation had at a coffee shop or at the gym, about her being "too good" for her middle-aged, pot-bellied, working class husband might well be fatal.
• how much she has already been exposed to Western and liberal culture: if she has been around a bit, e.g. she has studied abroad for a year or two, and is still reasonably conservative and traditional, then it's unlikely that settling in a Western country would affect her personality and behaviour that much more than it already did.

[MrMan]

My wife and I have spent about a fourth of our married years in Indonesia and the rest in the USA. I agree it depends on the woman.

I think it boils down to two simple facts:

• how old (or young) she is: "la donna e' mobile" (women are volatile), says a famous aria from Giuseppe Verdi, and she is a lot more so when she is still young and immature - the typical 50-yo American man repatriating a 19-yo clueless FIlipina who thus far had only lived in a wooden hut in the countryside, may well be in for a surprise, as soon as said girl finds herself immersed in the opulence of a first world city. She will probably not know how to deal with the culture shock and may be easily swayed by the people she meets along the way. A single conversation had at a coffee shop or at the gym, about her being "too good" for her middle-aged, pot-bellied, working class husband might well be fatal.
• how much she has already been exposed to Western and liberal culture: if she has been around a bit, e.g. she has studied abroad for a year or two, and is still reasonably conservative and traditional, then it's unlikely that settling in a Western country would affect her personality and behaviour that much more than it already did.

My wife had spent many years in the big city in her country.

I think a lot of this also has to do with how well grounded a woman is in her worldview how she thinks what she believes and what her values are.

I hear this idea that it is somehow immoral for a middle-aged or older man to marry a young woman sometimes in the United States. I've heard it on TV or streaming. But I don't think I've ever heard this idea from church people since it's antithetical to Christian teaching about marriage. My wife is a social butterfly but we've met most of our friends and our social circle around the world through church or Christian Ministries or something like that. We have also gotten to know neighbors and met people through the Indonesian Community which aren't always all Christian of course but we usually aren't as close to them. so neither of us have been surrounded by people who would encourage divorce as a form of self-improvement.

And we married relatively young and we probably look like a couple that fit together as far as looks and age and all that go. my wife keeps telling our girls about the benefits of marrying a man who's older than they are. But I think she's concerned a little bit more about wiadom, emotional maturity and being stable and responsible and that sort of thing.

I don't know that filipina's are at a high risk for divorce when they come back to the US. I was trying to find information about that since Filipina is probably the most common Asian ethnicity for white men to marry and bring home

I found a comment on another Forum that said 25% of Filipinas said merry Americans leave their husbands and American women will say that these foreign women are trying to scam the men. he made the point that 50% of American women leave so who are the true scammers. But I suspect he just made up that number. and my understanding is that roughly 50% number is about failed marriages not the percentage of women that leave. there are people who have multiple divorces and remarriages after that first divorce and they mess up the statistics.

I went to a church that had a number Filipino families that was passed by Filipino for a couple of years and I can't think of anybody in the Filipino community that I knew who was divorced off the top of my head. I did know of a couple of divorces among the Indonesians but you know that represented the population of expat Indonesians of divorce rate was much lower than in the US in general. And it could be the one that wanted the divorce was the American that was married to the Indonesian but I'm not sure. One of the Indonesians and the expect Community was getting a divorce with married to an American Jewish man. Comparing them to Filipino church people is like appearing apples to oranges.

I also wonder how many of the Filipinos that come to the United States to get divorces were actually bar girls as opposed to the girl living in the hut and marries an old American man. I suspect the bar girl who had slept with hundreds of guys would be more receptive to getting a divorce and marrying 'up' in the US if she got over here then the traditional village girl who was raised with traditional values. I would also consider the Filipina who wasn't living with her husband but living with some other person's husband who got a divorce or something like that to be extremely high risk if she managed to get a divorce overseas somehow and then married some other guy.

[publicduende]

My wife had spent many years in the big city in her country.

Your wife was probably a gem. But then again, the Jakarta of 20, 25 years ago, before social media and mobile phone even existed, was probably a different society. Hell, I bet you could have found a decent woman even in rural or suburban US, or anywhere in Europe.

I think a lot of this also has to do with how well grounded a woman is in her worldview how she thinks what she believes and what her values are.

That is, IMHO, not an innate gift. Yes, part of it is about her personality. Most of it is about the way she was brought up and how she has critically analysed the world we live in after being exposed to it. The latter clause, "after being exposed to it" is the crucial bit. I agree with the Jesuits when they say that, in order to be strong in front of the world, you need to live in it.

Your wife was probably at the right juncture of a traditional middle-class family who gave her opportunity to discover the modern world. Maybe she travelled a bit, or she met some foreigners via the Church, therefore expanding her horizon. Sometimes you don't need to travel the world, if the world comes to you. This is only possible in large cities and/or communities that have an international, cosmopolitan component.

I see this with my wife's friends. They are hail from upper class, traditional Filipino or Fil-Chinese families: most of them will have studied at schools manned by the Jesuits, Opus Dei, or other religious order. From what I could see the few times I met them, none of them struck me as hideously liberal, woke or slutty. Their families surely disciplined them, with plenty of extracurricular activities, curfews, reprimands if they didn't get good grades, and all. At the same time, they had the opportunity to live in modern Manila, travel around Asia, the US, Europe. They remained relatively traditional, but with lots of "antibodies".

It doesn't take much, after all. Every woman, deep down, knows that being overbearing, materialistic and arrogant for the sake of worshipping the totem of third-wave feminism, is not a good idea. They might go through short phases of discover, yet most of them eventually revert to finding a good job, marrying a good man and having a couple of kids.

The only antidote to the shit of modern life is a solid critical mind, backed by good family values. Simple as that. An unbroken family with complementary figures (Mom, Dad, grandparents, older cousins, etc.), the right intellectual stimuli from an early age, an entourage of friends who share the same values and lifestyle.

Easier said that done, right?

[Mercury]

Another reason to keep her away from the USA is that the USA is a huge sausage fest! Total population of the USA is 71% men and 29% women, which results in a massively lopsided dating scene. Only the biggest, fattest women (and we're talking the ones that are 400, even 600 pounds and bigger with massive glandular problems worse than Prader-Willi Syndrome) are single for longer than a few months in the USA. A foreign woman sets foot on American soil and the next day, some 3 million men are hitting on her! Fights, shootings, and brawls erupt as men fight over her, guns get pulled, many guys get shot and murdered, gang fights and gang wars, all pandemonium breaks loose, and then she ends up with some violent thug that is the winner, and is multiple millions of dollars richer from the stolen money, cash, and credit cards he gained from the riot.

In the USA, women that don't judge a man by his wallet are persecuted like people in the Middle East for worshipping Jesus Christ instead of that fake, phony god Allah.

Additionally, it is but a matter of time before Congress criminalizes all traditional man-woman marriage nationwide in the USA and divides the USA by gender with a DMZ in between.

[publicduende]

Total population of the USA is 71% men and 29% women...

Where did you get this stat?

https://www.globaldata.com/data-insight ... %200.1%25.

The gender ratio in the United States attained a value of 97 males per 100 females in 2021. The ratio recorded a year-on-year increase of 0.03% in 2021. Between 2018-2021, the gender ratio in the United States of America increased by 0.1%.

Unless multi-decade social policies are implemented, like those in China, the natural balance is always a slightly higher population of females over males.

Perhaps you're referring to the number of eligible, "good" women vs "good' men. We have nothing to debate there: we all know women in the West are totally hellbent on jumping the cock wagon until they're in their 30s, then marrying the first simp they like, then divorcing them and having another ride on the sausage merry-go-round.

[MrMan]

Total population of the USA is 71% men and 29% women...

Where did you get this stat?

https://www.globaldata.com/data-insight ... %200.1%25.

The gender ratio in the United States attained a value of 97 males per 100 females in 2021. The ratio recorded a year-on-year increase of 0.03% in 2021. Between 2018-2021, the gender ratio in the United States of America increased by 0.1%.

Unless multi-decade social policies are implemented, like those in China, the natural balance is always a slightly higher population of females over males.

Perhaps you're referring to the number of eligible, "good" women vs "good' men. We have nothing to debate there: we all know women in the West are totally hellbent on jumping the cock wagon until they're in their 30s, then marrying the first simp they like, then divorcing them and having another ride on the sausage merry-go-round.

I think it's more a case of "99.9% of statistics are made up on the spot, including this one."

[Mercury]

Perhaps you're referring to the number of eligible, "good" women vs "good' men. We have nothing to debate there: we all know women in the West are totally hellbent on jumping the cock wagon until they're in their 30s, then marrying the first simp they like, then divorcing them and having another ride on the sausage merry-go-round.

If you are looking for eligible good men and good women, in the USA, you're looking at between 750,000 and 3,000,000 men per 1 woman!

American women are toxic and spoiled like Veruca Salt in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. They have transformed the entire Western dating scene into a nonstop endless auction. They marry the current highest bidder, and then when someone with a higher bid comes along, they divorce the guy and marry the higher bidder.

Making it all the more hellish, most American women are overweight, and with the extremely lopsided population of almost 3 men per woman, only the biggest, fattest women often remain single, women that are in fact classified as supermorbidly obese! You're literally talking women that are even in excess of 600 pounds! Most of them are even over a third of a ton in weight. The ones that you can clearly see that no men want, and their tremendous girth is keeping the guys away like an iron wall.

[kangarunner]

Perhaps you're referring to the number of eligible, "good" women vs "good' men. We have nothing to debate there: we all know women in the West are totally hellbent on jumping the cock wagon until they're in their 30s, then marrying the first simp they like, then divorcing them and having another ride on the sausage merry-go-round.

It's actually a sophisticated operation for them at this point. Most of them are teaching other women how to take naive men for a ride.

Their curriculum is this:

1) Age 5-10 : Girls learn how to manipulate Dad at a young age. They see how Dad complies with Mom's demands and then learn how to manipulate.
2) 11 - 17: Girls are taught in school by their teachers that they come first. They're taught that they can be whatever they want to be when they grow up. They observe in school that "boys are stupid" and girls are smarter.
3) 18-30: At this age, most young women despise men because of the programming they've received. In extreme feminism, women wouldn't want men to exist at all.
4) 31 and over: Most women at this age have become so sour and poisoned by American poisoning that they think "good" is "bad" and "bad" is "good". They are all suspicious of men and hate them at this point. Women's minds at this point are corrupted beyond repair.

In conclusion, the average woman 35+ is a fat, horrific, fire-breathing dragon yelling at her husband, "GO DO THIS! GO DO THAT!".

Every time a woman in America opens her mouth, just imagine a big dragon breathing fire out of its mouth.

All problems in America come from the woman's subversion and lies of the mouth which weaken men's natural authority.

I live for the day when I can shove my greasy dick in a feminist woman's mouth and degrade and humiliate her ego. Delicious.

[rudder]

worked for me, and then we went back to her home country. Probably should've just stayed in the USA. Things worked better there for two reasons:

1) Latinos love swindling women.
2) Latinos love swindling gringos.

Didn't have to deal with those problems in the USA.