MrMan wrote: ↑January 1st, 2024, 10:19 am
Does ancient Hindu mythology emphasize their gods wanting to make humans gods? Greek mythology has stories of certain humans chosen for good looks for purposes of sexual exploitation or half-breeds allowed immortality for powerful deeds or other reasons. I haven't heard of Norse gods allowing people to have immorality. I don't think your broad brush description of paganism is accurate. I also recall Prometheus getting punished quite harshly for giving man fire in Greek mythology.
Well, no description of "Paganism" is accurate unless one qualifies it and specifies what type of pre-Abrahamic religion they are talking about.
Paganus emerged as a derogatory term used by silly Jewdeo-Christians for anybody who didn't believe in their bizarre Jesus blood sacrifice cult and Torah Messianism and who remained faithful to the old traditions of their ancestors. It carried the connotation of "country bumpkin", something that is obvious to anybody familiar with Latin or a Romance language. Today Paganism is often used as an umbrella term for non-Abrahamic religions.
But, as I already argued, the term is essentially meaningless unless the exact religious tradition is specified. Strangely, it is indiscriminately applied to all kinds of pre-Abrahamic religions from state religions focused on civil order, superstitious folk mythologies, sophisticated philosophical religions (e.g., Hermeticism and Neoplatonism), and various mystery cults.
As for Hinduism, the mainstream schools of thought such as Vedanta and Samkhya don't emphasize the development of godlike powers or becoming gods but rather the pursuit of
moksha -- i.e., liberation from the cycle of
samsara and a return of the soul to its primordial source Brahman, the preexistent Ultimate Consciousness and foundation of all being. On the other hand, practices which emphasize Kundalini Yoga and the cultivation of Siddhis exist among some of the esoteric Tantra traditions on the peripheries of the Hindu cultural milieu. This is where the secret occult knowledge lies in contrast to the more abstract philosophical religion of the mainstream scholars or the folk religion of the masses.
However, these same types of occult practices, though largely unknown to most people, are also preserved to some degree in the inner alchemy traditions of both Western esotericism, which can be traced back to the Alexandrian Hermeticism of the Ptolemaic period; and the more esoteric side of Chinese Qi Kung practices. Both of these work with the body's subtle anatomy, involve advanced meditations and techniques that circulate the "inner fire", and claim to teach methods of attaining higher spiritual perfection, supreme enlightenment, apotheosis and/or immortality at the highest level.
For those who have studied those esoteric traditions and understand the symbolism, these practices involve working with what in the East is known as Kundalini and Prana/Qi (i.e., the body's and soul's natural lifeforce energy). This same occult knowledge was symbolized in various cultures (Egypt, Mesopotamia, India, etc.) by the serpent and was associated with higher divine consciousness and godlike abilities. It was known by some initiates but was subsequently suppressed by religions and power hierarchies which wanted to keep people ignorant and submissive (Jewdeo-Christianity is a prime example of this).
Religion, whether it be "Pagan" or Abrahamic, is simply for the most part a collection of myths and superstitions, or philosophical systems at best. Real occult knowledge is practical and concrete and can be directly experienced by the practitioner.
MrMan wrote: ↑January 1st, 2024, 10:19 am
Men cannot ontologically be the same as YHWH. But men can become sons of God and joint heirs with the Messiah through faith in Him, and attain immortality.
To those of us who are not foolish or crazy enough to actually believe that the bloodthirsty, psychopathic and jealous Hebrew tribal deity is the foundation of all being or that a bizarre and barbaric blood sacrifice could ever offer salvation, statements such as "men cannot ontologically be the same a YHWH" and "men can become sons of God and joint heirs with the Messiah through faith in Him" are meaningless.
Certain ancient peoples whom silly Jewdeo-Christians arrogantly and disrespectfully disparage as "Pagans" -- e.g., the Egyptians -- already had far more ancient and more sophisticated conceptions of the Supreme Being than a bunch of backward xenophobic and supremacist Israelites in the desert. The Egyptians conceived the Supreme Being as the autogenous Atum which emerged from the dark inert chaos or pure potentiality of Nun and then brought forth and organized the world through various divine principles (i.e., the Ogdoad). This extremely ancient Egyptian cosmology is thought to have inspired the later emanation cosmologies of Hermeticism and Neoplatonism with their concepts of the Monad/One/All and the autogenous
Nous or Divine Mind/Intellect which fashions the sensorial world and all phenomena, as well as the much later concept of
Ein Sof and emanation cosmology of the Kabbalah. Similar cosmologies also emerged in the East.
Sorry bro but some "Pagans" already had a coherent and sophisticated concept of a Supreme Being or monistic Transcendental Absolute and fashioner of worlds long before your beloved Heeb savages started to abandon their primitive henotheism and promote their deranged tribal deity as "sole cosmic creator" while coming up with some laughable bullshit about "ethical monotheism". Lol!
I think that it's clear that we're the truly spiritual reverers of divinity and the Supreme Being, not silly Jewdeo-Christians who recognize a blood-lusting, murderous, psychopathic tribal deity of an alien tribe that hates them as "creator", worship a tortured and mutilated Jew on a cross as "god", and symbolically partake in a Jewish ritual sacrifice with symbolic cannibalism and vampirism. You guys are the real demon worshippers and "Satanists"! LMAO!
In fact, after leaving Christianity more than a decade ago, I quickly began to suspect that, through the doctrine of Jesus' sacrifice and the institution of the Holy Supper, Christians were tricked by Jews into participating in some kind of Jewish black magic ritual for their unconscious self-hexing and spiritual enslavement and/or destruction. The Jews have always wanted to destroy the Gentile peoples and to rule over the world. That's what their whole Yahweh cult is about.
Smh
Anyway, my suspicions were recently confirmed when I stumbled across a certain Kabbalistic interpretation of Jesus exposed by Kabbalah expert Christopher Jon Bjerknes. Bjerknes identifies in the Kabbalah a secret doctrine according to which Jesus is regarded as a false Messiah from the dark side or
sitra achra who arrived to deceive the Gentiles, lead them to their destruction, and ultimately place them under the yoke of Israel before turning on them and rejoining the Jews as a double agent. Lol!
Moreover, according to Bjerknes, the symbolism of the Messiah who treads the winepress (Jesus) esoterically symbolizes the false Messiah killing those who fall for his sinister deception, bathing in their blood, and feasting on their souls. Hence a deeper and more esoteric reason why wine is used for the Holy Supper. According to Bjerknes' research, you guys are literally worshipping the false Messiah and executioner of a tribe that loathes you and desires your complete physical and spiritual destruction. LMAO!
And you guys defend this perverse and sick blood sacrifice cult as though it were something noble???
Sorry MrMan, but your own "religion" consists of nothing more than a Jewish blood sacrifice cult and rolling around on the floor like a maniac while claiming to be "speaking in tongues". ROFL!
How you can mock other people's religions and call them "demon worshippers" is beyond me.