Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

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Re: Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

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galii wrote:
June 19th, 2023, 12:27 pm
Yes you got it. I am very allergic against science, math, numbers, physics and thinking. That is why I did not spend anytime thinking about the scientific models. I never did any math about it. I never tried to find answers to questions. That is why I god destroyed by big brained flat earthers. They brought the math, the physcics and I got dizzy and gave up.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'd conclude from your posts.


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@ Pixel--Dude

No, you can't put the spherical Earth model and the flat Earth belief on an equal footing like that. One of them is backed up with a literal universe of evidence collected over thousands of years in different cultures, including ancient Greek, Indian, Islamic and the modern West. Each of them arrived at a model of a spherical Earth. I accept the model of a spherical Earth just as I accept relativity, quantum mechanics, electromagnetism and others because I've studied Physics and Astrophysics to degree level. I've also taught Physics for over a decade. I understand the models and the evidence for them very well, as well as the process of testing them.

It's interesting how you freed yourself of Christianity, I also freed myself of Islam and other religion but that does't make me an atheist. I don't accept things based on faith, but on reason and evidence. You might be interested to know that nearly all the main proponents of the flat Earth belief are Biblical fundamentalists who interpret the Bible literally. Flat Earth is another belief system that doesn't require evidence from its believers, and evidence contradicting it is rejected.
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Seeker wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 12:30 am
@ Pixel--Dude

No, you can't put the spherical Earth model and the flat Earth belief on an equal footing like that. One of them is backed up with a literal universe of evidence collected over thousands of years in different cultures, including ancient Greek, Indian, Islamic and the modern West. Each of them arrived at a model of a spherical Earth.
What the hell are you talking about? What are some ancient Indian texts and Islamic texts predating the modern era that talk about a spherical earth model?
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@Pixel--Dude The ancient Greeks, Indians and medieval Muslims calculated the circumference of the Earth. The Romans and medieval Europeans and Muslims also followed the spherical model. Flat Earthism hasn't been taken seriously by civilised, educated people for thousands of years.
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Seeker wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 2:14 am
@Pixel--Dude The ancient Greeks, Indians and medieval Muslims calculated the circumference of the Earth. The Romans and medieval Europeans and Muslims also followed the spherical model. Flat Earthism hasn't been taken seriously by civilised, educated people for thousands of years.
Eh, the standard model in the Ancient Greek based world was the Ptolemaic model. You are just making stuff up.
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The Ptolemaic model was still based on a spherical Earth, just one with the Earth at the centre of the Universe.
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@Pixel--Dude

When a member of the cargo cult argues science with his faith shurely it will become bullshido. The scientific method is critical thinking otherwise it is just throwing poop at people.

Anti science people are brainwashed by religion that science is devilish. That is one reason why religious people hate science I guess.
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galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 2:40 am
When a member of the cargo cult argues science with his faith shurely it will become bullshido.
You would have to have some kind of Christian-type faith for science to make sense in the first place. If you believed that the universe was capriciously changing, unknowable, subject to the whim of random forces etc. science would make no sense.
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Cornfed wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 7:46 am
galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 2:40 am
When a member of the cargo cult argues science with his faith shurely it will become bullshido.
You would have to have some kind of Christian-type faith for science to make sense in the first place. If you believed that the universe was capriciously changing, unknowable, subject to the whim of random forces etc. science would make no sense.
Christians were quite good in creating the dark age

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Cornfed wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 2:19 am
Seeker wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 2:14 am
@Pixel--Dude The ancient Greeks, Indians and medieval Muslims calculated the circumference of the Earth. The Romans and medieval Europeans and Muslims also followed the spherical model. Flat Earthism hasn't been taken seriously by civilised, educated people for thousands of years.
Eh, the standard model in the Ancient Greek based world was the Ptolemaic model. You are just making stuff up.
Yes here we see your special level of retardation. You get the most simple stuff wrong. Even using google seems too hard. Thank God there were no nubers involved. Otherwise you would need an exorcism.
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galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:01 am
Christians were quite good in creating the dark age
Eh, the Dark Age was created by the collapse of the Roman Empire due to invasion, declining IQ and so on with Christianity maintaining civilization at some level.
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Cornfed wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:05 am
galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:01 am
Christians were quite good in creating the dark age
Eh, the Dark Age was created by the collapse of the Roman Empire due to invasion, declining IQ and so on with Christianity maintaining civilization at some level.
Right for 800 years.Great job.
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galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:07 am
Cornfed wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:05 am
galii wrote:
June 20th, 2023, 8:01 am
Christians were quite good in creating the dark age
Eh, the Dark Age was created by the collapse of the Roman Empire due to invasion, declining IQ and so on with Christianity maintaining civilization at some level.
Right for 800 years.Great job.
Yes it takes a while to build up intelligence. A good thing that we had Christianity to keep scholarship going during that time.
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You might want to retitle this video game model vs electron model or tower of god vs ball of yarn.

I wonder how many of you will understand what I said and why and how they can both exist at the same time and within themselves at the same time?
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Pixel--Dude wrote:
June 18th, 2023, 3:15 am
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What do you guys think of simulation theory? Could simulation theory give credence to flat earth? Think about it. If our world was a simulated reality, and I mean simulated by a supreme God (whatever you want to call it) consciousness and not aliens with supercomputers etc, then couldn't that mean flat earth could be real?

A version of the simulation hypothesis was first theorized as a part of a philosophical argument on the part of René Descartes, and later by Hans Moravec. The philosopher Nick Bostrom developed an expanded argument examining the probability of our reality being a simulation. We know through the double slit experiment that reality isn’t as simple as we would like to believe. That particles change their behaviour when being observed. In alignment with the simulation theory the flat earth model isn’t subject to standard scientific reasoning.

The simulation hypothesis adds credence to the flat earth model and the answer is the same with the stars and celestial bodies. Any good simulation has to be immersive. If it isn’t immersive then we will not take it seriously and our experience here will be meaningless. The firmament is simply just artificial generated background. The stars, the constellations, all just simulated background which are there to make a game more immersive. Take the argument that four people standing in the “southern hemisphere” looking in different directions and seeing the southern cross. It isn’t because of “personal domes” or whatever bullshit the Flat Earth Society chooses to push on people to make the flat earth theory seem as ludicrous as possible, it is because it is digitally generated information. They all see the same stars because they generate when observed. Like particles generate when observed in the double slit experiment. Our universe is a simulated experience and it is a very convincing one...

A few of you might think the flat earth model os stupid, but how can you call stupid when in alignment with the simulation hypothesis? Can you call simulation hypothesis stupid when it is supported by renowned philosophers like Descartes? I'm sure there are even some members of the scientific community who support the simulation hypothesis as well. Are they all dumb f***s too? :roll:

I think there needs to be more compassion and understanding applied to those who believe the flat earth model could be real. There is the saying "seeing is believing" when none of the things that serve as evidence for the heliocentric model can be directly observed we have to accept the mainstream narrative, which we know has been dishonest time and time again. Like I said before, questioning things and curiosity towards new ideas are not common traits of stupid people. It's those who accept what they're told without a shred of critical thinking who.are stupid. Ignorance is one of the biggest traits of a stupid person :roll: not that I'm calling anyone here in particular stupid, I'm just saying.
No you imbecile
Simulation theory does not add any credence to flat earth at all
Only being dropped as a baby adds any credence to this theory
You absolute muppet
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Anyone who thinks life is a simulation on a computer is just as batty as those who believe earth is a pancake
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