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Cornfed wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:38 pm
Tsar wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:29 pm
Cornfed wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:01 pm
Mercer wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 2:53 pm
@Outcast9428, now you just admitted to having premarital sex. You clearly don't take your religion seriously at all.
In his defence, it is not necessarily anti-Christian for men to have sex with whores outside marriage.
I have to agree with @Outcast9428 that in today's world, it's best to just have sex outside of marriage because everyone is doing it. All current societies aren't built to stop fornication and make people accept finding one lifelong partner and girls staying virgins for one special guy.
Using a whore as a vessel to masturbate into might be fine. Obviously you wouldn't want to pretend she can be a wife and go through the motions of a sham marriage.
Assuming a girl is a virgin and you accept that marriage happens through a girl's defloration or any act of sex but mainly consummation, then she automatically becomes a wife.

No virgin girl that loses her virginity to her lifelong partner outside of legally recognized marriage is a whore because marriage happens in a spiritual context.
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Cornfed wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:39 pm
Tsar wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:33 pm
Marriage actually happens when people have sex. That's the ancient way of marriage. Ceremonies were purely formalities.

The government documents or government recognition mean nothing. It's just a form of control.

Having sex with a non-virgin is effectively adultery. Maybe not legally, but by the spiritual definition, it's adultery, assuming people believe that anyone who you have sex with, you become spiritually married to because of consummation.
No, that is not exactly the Biblical position or the position of most major cultures.
I know but it's one possibility that I have heard mentioned or read about.
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Banning violent pornography needs to be the highest priority right now. The rough sex and BDSM epidemic needs to end.
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The idea that this is 'unrealistic'only applies to white and christian cucks,for jews and muslims this is very realistic.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 17th, 2023, 10:44 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 17th, 2023, 1:56 pm
It’s not because we’re cucks… It’s because most of us don’t really care that much. Sure it would be preferable or neat I suppose but I think it’s ridiculous this idea that y’all have that you would refuse to date a girl you get along well with and who has a reasonable partner count and is very loyal and sweet to you all because she isn’t a virgin. I have bigger priorities then whether she’s a virgin or not.
Yeah. The ideal scenario is to marry a virgin. But I am not quite convinced this is the only acceptable scenario. After all the simple fact is that most girls nowadays simply don't "wait for marriage". So to expect this, the average man will set himself up for failure, statistically speaking. The most desirable girls are taken off the market early. Or at least someone will TRY to get them off the market, and f**k her to mark his territory so to speak...

Hence people like @Kalinago and @Tsar writing things about jailbaits; a young woman from a conservative background will be more guarded by her family. Kalinago especially has been mentioning Muslim communities lately, which will guard their beautiful daughters' virtue closely. If that is what a man wants, more power to him. But I do not think it is feasible for most men. But to those who care, there are still ways to get what he desires. It's just an increasingly great rarity for girls to wait for marriage in most of the modern world and as the years go on it will only become more and more rare and unusual.

Personally all I want is a pretty woman who sits in the house, cooks, cleans and pumps out babies for me. That's all there is to it. Young, with a beautiful face and a nice smooth body. Her having been f***ed by someone else before isn't something I am going to lie awake at night thinking about, seeing as though I have f***ed many women myself and perhaps this is destiny. At least she will birth my offspring and not the offspring of any other man so in the end, I'm still the King of my little domain.
Marcos,its amazing how when you have something within reach,your(not you,but Mine) true pov comes out on a topic.Just like you see a man's true nature when he has alot of money and alot of power and immunity.

Now that as a Muslim,I have jailbait,virgin,obediant,and uncorrupted women within my possible reach,I don't even see these alleged 'great women from x country'as promoted by happierabroad.
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Kalinago wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 2:00 pm
The idea that this is 'unrealistic'only applies to white and christian cucks,for jews and muslims this is very realistic.
Lmao, Jewish women are the most promiscuous religious
group out there, even more so then atheist women.
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Mercer wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 3:19 pm
Kalinago wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 2:00 pm
The idea that this is 'unrealistic'only applies to white and christian cucks,for jews and muslims this is very realistic.
Exactly, thank you for setting these fake crackers straight. They actually think of themselves as masculine and traditionalists yet they don't even take their own religion seriously. :roll: They're about as religious and traditional as your average Tinder whore who f***s strange Chads and Tyrones all week, treats other people like shit, and then pretends to be religious for an hour a week.
You are behaving like a lunatic.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 4:03 pm
Kalinago wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 2:00 pm
The idea that this is 'unrealistic'only applies to white and christian cucks,for jews and muslims this is very realistic.
Lmao, Jewish women are the most promiscuous religious
group out there, even more so then atheist women.
I completely agree with @Outcast9428. It's also Jewish women who are often the worst feminists and who promote abortion.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 4:03 pm
Kalinago wrote:
February 20th, 2023, 2:00 pm
The idea that this is 'unrealistic'only applies to white and christian cucks,for jews and muslims this is very realistic.
Lmao, Jewish women are the most promiscuous religious
group out there, even more so then atheist women.
Orthodox Jewish females tend to at least outwardly not be sluts.
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Outcast9428 wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:59 pm
Banning violent pornography needs to be the highest priority right now. The rough sex and BDSM epidemic needs to end.
I've finally figured out the reason for this seemingly inexplicable out-of-left-field obsession with BDSM. This is part of the Satanic agenda to criminalize all normal sex. It is normal for men to show dominant behaivor during sex, and when they do you want this to be labelled BDSM and be illegal. How could I have missed it.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 24th, 2023, 12:27 pm
Cornfed wrote:
February 24th, 2023, 12:16 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 19th, 2023, 5:59 pm
Banning violent pornography needs to be the highest priority right now. The rough sex and BDSM epidemic needs to end.
I've finally figured out the reason for this seemingly inexplicable out-of-left-field obsession with BDSM. This is part of the Satanic agenda to criminalize all normal sex. It is normal for men to show dominant behaivor during sex, and when they do you want this to be labelled BDSM and be illegal. How could I have missed it.
It's a bit odd to me as well. Wouldn't perversions like various forms of faggotry, cuckolding or liberls brainwashing kids to become transgender and chemically castrating them all be far more dangerous to society than something as innocuous as rough sex with a willing female?
There seems to be an international thing with making any male dominance displays a felony. In NZ a couple of years ago they sweetened the pill by abolishing the sexist crime of "male assaults female" but added a new felony of (I think) "domestic strangulation". Basically if you behave like a man during sex you will be a criminal. If you don't behave like a man you won't be getting sex with a female at all. All part of the satanic agenda.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 24th, 2023, 12:45 pm
Yes, I have noticed this too. There seems to be this push to promote turning men as meek as humanly possible. Nerdy, meek, "turn the other cheek" type of people is what "the powers that be" want all men to be. Kids are taught to, above all else, be "sensitive" and little boys need to be allowed "gender creativity" and wear dresses or put on nail polish nowadays. It's sickening.

And it only really happens in places that are either Western, or heavily Westernized. Even conservatives are kind of mentally cucked at this point.
Serious Muslims seem immune to this nonsense. Western conservatives are a lost cause.
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No @Cornfed You're just a faux conservative degenerate who thinks he's super traditional just because he has a lot of extreme and controversial opinions. But having extreme opinions doesn't make you traditional when you don't even understand the basics of the ideology. Your opinions are not extreme because of how old fashioned they are... They're extreme because of how blatantly morally bankrupt they are. Everything that you promote is self serving, that's it. You're not a traditionalist, you're a selfish f***ing cunt who's only attraction to "traditionalism" is based on the fact that you want women to be better wives for you but you have no intention whatsoever of being a good husband to your wife. Promoting women to be better wives is a good thing, but you actually promote men being bad husbands at the same time. No woman is gonna want to be a good wife when the men who are leading her towards behaviors that could make her a good wife are all assholes. You have latched onto this vague idea of traditional gender roles, and perverted it in order to excuse what is literally just domestic abuse. You're not a traditionalist... You're an abuser.

@MarcosZeitola You've got to be kidding me... With Andrew Tate running around promoting his bullshit and the entire rap music industry promoting their toxic sludge, you honestly think the elites are against guys being dominant douchebros? That's all they ever f***ing promote. Just so y'all know, the elites are pushing this BDSM crap in our schools and at drag queen shows. The Biden administration hired this nonbinary freak who self-identifies as a "kink activist" and hosted a spanking seminar at a kink conference. None of the woke elites are opposed to this at all. They want to promote as much perversion as possible. And yes, men should not be dominating women during sex. That's a disgusting perversion of what ought to be an act of love. If you support BDSM bullshit you're not a conservative... Cornfed is not traditional or conservative, he's just a fringe lunatic.

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MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 24th, 2023, 11:51 pm
Outcast9428 wrote:
February 24th, 2023, 11:34 pm
You
@MarcosZeitola You've got to be kidding me... With Andrew Tate running around promoting his bullshit and the entire rap music industry promoting their toxic sludge, you honestly think the elites are against guys being dominant douchebros? That's all they ever f***ing promote. Just so y'all know, the elites are pushing this BDSM crap in our schools and at drag queen shows. The Biden administration hired this nonbinary freak who self-identifies as a "kink activist" and hosted a spanking seminar at a kink conference. None of the woke elites are opposed to this at all. They want to promote as much perversion as possible. And yes, men should not be dominating women during sex. That's a disgusting perversion of what ought to be an act of love. If you support BDSM bullshit you're not a conservative... Cornfed is not traditional or conservative, he's just a fringe lunatic.
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You are misunderstanding me. I'm not a "fan" of degrading things being normalized. But I do believe the LGBT stuff is far more harmful, in particular the erosion of gender and what it means. The obsession with turning boys as weak and meek as possible is sickening. As for Tate, he's not doing an awful lot of running around, his dumb ass is still in jail in Romania and will be for the foreseeable future.

In a world full of trannies and, according to Tsar, girls committing bestiality... I think some people engaging in some sort of "Fifty Shades" fantasy of 'master and submissive' is kind of tame in comparison. As fot the whole BDSM, there is the kinda rough stuff and then there is the downright abusive stuff, slapping, hitting, hurting one another. I'm not a fan of that at all, far from it. But people have weird kinks, sometimes. A lot of girls kinda like it when, during sex, you wrap your hands around her neck. Nothing to major. Nothing to forceful. Just a gentle reminder of your power as a man, and how with one squeeze you might end her. Same with the pulling of hair during doggystle... tons of girls are into that. Doesn't have to be hard or particularly painful but... different strokes for different folks, my man. ;)

The tranny stuff being pushed everywhere and the feminization of young boys is honestly a far worse thing than some guys pretending to be big bad dudebros and running around like they own the place. It's mostly just pathetic posturing but a "dudebro" son would be preferable to any sane man over a disease riddled tranny or a cuck, lol. And no, I'm not some sort of terrible degenerate nor am I completely against what you're saying, Outcast. I just think that when ((they)) get to a man's son and turn him into a douchebag rapper, you could still "set him straight". But once they brainwash him into believing 'gender is a social construct' and pump him full of hormones... he's damaged beyond repair. Hence my somewhat different priorities.
You're not wrong, but the thing is, trannies are less then 1% of the population. Do I think we ought to be bringing back mental asylums and putting them in it until they learn to accept reality? Yes... Do I think all the public school teachers promoting this crap should be put in prison? Yes. But the BDSM crap is infecting somewhere between 60%-70% of the population, if we continue to ignore it then it could get to the point where it can't be stopped anymore, hence why I believe it is a far more urgent threat.
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MarcosZeitola wrote:
February 25th, 2023, 12:16 am
Say a man and woman have sex, and he holds her wrists and he ploughs her harder than usual, he's a little rough with her and this turns her on.
Although this was worded badly, I would say that's pretty normal. Its not painful at all, that's much more of a lustful interaction... Not a sadomasochistic one.
There are also forms of BDSM that originate in Japan, such as shibari, the art of tying up a naked girl sensually. Is this allowed, or not?
It is a slippery slope, so preferably not... Since it doesn't create physical pain, it is on the mild side of things if somebody does that but I don't think it should be portrayed in media or pornography because its too close to stuff that is really bad.

If the act causes physical pain or is intended to humiliate the subject (like making a girl crawl around on a leash), it is going into highly degenerate and unacceptable territory. If its something like handcuffs or being tied down/up, I'd say, mildly degenerate and a bad slope/road to go down. So best avoided, definitely should never be promoted, but not in the seriously degenerate category.
The whole "power and control" thing and playing with those concepts, is a huge turn-on for a lot of men and women.
Highly degenerate and unacceptable.
There's an even more worrisome trend of men being into "pegging" that is promoted everywhere, where girls f**k their boyfriends and husbands anally with a strap-on dildo and a lot of butt-stuff is taking place. I think that's a lot more gay and twisted.
I agree that this is highly degenerate and unacceptable as well.

The whole point of traditionalism is to create a harmonious relationship between men and women that is positive, satisfactory for both genders, and maintains or restores the values that built our civilization. The most basic aspect of the traditional view on sex is that sex is supposed to be an act of affection and love. Sadomasochism spits in the face of all that. It is twisting sex into an act of violence and pain instead of affection. This is a complete inversion of what the act of sex is supposed to be about. It disrupts the harmony between men and women by essentially programming women into getting off on their own pain. It is a disgusting abomination.

There are certain acts that are so evil I believe them to be dark rituals. Child sacrifice is one of them, because of the unbelievable perversion of the relationship between parent and child which happens when child sacrifice occurs. Well, sadomasochism is another dark ritual... By perverting another one of the purest relationships on Earth, romantic relationships between men and women. Twisting their relationship away from love and affection and instead towards violence and pain. Our world becomes a more evil place every time one of these acts is performed because it breeds dark energy that corrupts people's souls... Primarily the souls of the people performing these rituals. But the more surrounded you are by people with corrupted souls, the darker in world in general becomes.

Our world will not get better until we stop this madness. If you wonder why the tranny stuff is even happening you should take a look at how much perversion in general has been normalized. When people normalize any fetishes, kinks, perversities, it opens the floodgates for all of them to be normalized.
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