Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

[gsjackson]

Google "Red Bull Stratos". You can literally see the curvature of the Earth from the photos.

Felix Baumgartner is an Austrian skydiver, daredevil and BASE jumper. He is widely known for jumping to Earth from a helium balloon from the stratosphere on 14 October 2012 and landing in New Mexico, United States, as part of the Red Bull Stratos project.

With a fish-eye lens. Take a look at the bottom of the picture. Do you really think that in a commercial airliner at 35,000 feet you can only see the horizon stretching out a hundred miles or so at eye level, but if you go just 3.5 times further up you can see the entire globe? This picture has been debunked a hundred times by Dubay and others, but unfortunately Youtube makes it almost impossible to find them.

[kangarunner]

I dont know too much about this Flat Earth thing. But if it's FLAT. Does that mean there is something UNDER it? And if so, then what is something UNDER that....and UNDER THAT?.....and so on and so on?

What holds up the Flat Earth? What's underneath it?

[Cornfed]

I dont know too much about this Flat Earth thing. But if it's FLAT. Does that mean there is something UNDER it? And if so, then what is something UNDER that....and UNDER THAT?.....and so on and so on?

What holds up the Flat Earth? What's underneath it?

There is no model of the universe where we could possibly know what is outside the universe.

[gsjackson]

I dont know too much about this Flat Earth thing. But if it's FLAT. Does that mean there is something UNDER it? And if so, then what is something UNDER that....and UNDER THAT?.....and so on and so on?

What holds up the Flat Earth? What's underneath it?

We might find some answers to questions like these if we were allowed to explore Antarctica, but we're not. Shove off to do so and you'll be turned back at gun point.

[Tsar]

I dont know too much about this Flat Earth thing. But if it's FLAT. Does that mean there is something UNDER it? And if so, then what is something UNDER that....and UNDER THAT?.....and so on and so on?

What holds up the Flat Earth? What's underneath it?

We might find some answers to questions like these if we were allowed to explore Antarctica, but we're not. Shove off to do so and you'll be turned back at gun point.

Has anyone thought about making an attempt with a jet ski? Obviously, they can track ships if the transponder is turned on and with radar. A jet ski might be too small for radar.

Also, theoretically, all Antarctica is international waters and no country has any recognized claims. Why couldn't a person buy missiles from Yemen, North Korea, or arms dealers then blowup whatever ships try to block their access to Antarctica?

[Huddo]

I dont know too much about this Flat Earth thing. But if it's FLAT. Does that mean there is something UNDER it? And if so, then what is something UNDER that....and UNDER THAT?.....and so on and so on?

What holds up the Flat Earth? What's underneath it?

We might find some answers to questions like these if we were allowed to explore Antarctica, but we're not. Shove off to do so and you'll be turned back at gun point.

Has anyone thought about making an attempt with a jet ski? Obviously, they can track ships if the transponder is turned on and with radar. A jet ski might be too small for radar.

Also, theoretically, all Antarctica is international waters and no country has any recognized claims. Why couldn't a person buy missiles from Yemen, North Korea, or arms dealers then blowup whatever ships try to block their access to Antarctica?

Tsar your so call friends feed you a load of BS on many topics.

Here’s some facts, if you have a ship or boat that can make the journey you can sail to Antarctica un impeded. In our local port you’ll find privately owned boats preparing for the summer er sailing season now. If you don’t have a boat you can book a cruise. Some tourism companies allow you camp on the Antarctic continent during summer. If that’s not your thing you can buy a ticket for a tourist flight.

In my city there’s companies that manufacture infrastructure for Antarctic projects and 10 years ago I worked for one. We made stationary plant and also ice core drilling equipment. Two of the company boiler makers, a fitter and project manager then traveled to Antarctica to set up the equipment.

Now it’s the summer work season there’s many jobs advertised locally for average trade people to work in Antarctica.... Boiler makers, fitter and machinists, electricians, diesel mechanics etc.. and other roles. I hold some of these qualifications and could land a job there easily because they often struggle finding workers. They pay less than the average tradesman gets at home so it’s more about the experience than the money..... Surely if this mythical ice wall is real and guarded by guys with machine guns and missiles, then essential civilian workers would be paid 10 times more than they do at home and sign confidentiality contracts, so there’s less chance they don’t expose the flat earth reality?

FFS, a few years back you could have won a pass to visit Antarctica and attend a Metallica concert. If you’re into extreme sports, Antarctica is starting to attract base jumpers and wing suit fliers in the air and ice cave divers in the water

The ice wall / Antarctic BS has to be the stupidest aspect of flat earth theory because most average people can visit via multiple gateways.... Work, tourism, sport ect...

Here’s a tip that your fiends won’t tell you :- If you find a girlfriend, don’t mention this flat earth BS because you’ll be dumped immediately. Women don’t generally like dating gullible, delusional or retarded men.

Get a trade and go check it out for yourself... no bullet proof vests needed

https://jobs.antarctica.gov.au/jobs-in-antarctica/

[Tsar]

@Huddo I am agnostic about flat earth. There's something else in Antarctica. Either a portal, or a different civilization, or we're in Hollow Earth and Antarctica is the way out, or Hollow Earth exists in Antarctica. Something life changing is in Antarctica and whatever it is, it's being covered up. The entire continent is whited out on all satellite maps except the perimeter. Admiral Byrd also wrote a book about his experiences in a paradise and meeting an advanced race. The Nazis went to Antarctica is the middle of WW2. Something is in Antarctica.

[Cornfed]

On the face of it, simulation theory is a separate issue.

[Lucas88]

On the face of it, simulation theory is a separate issue.

I'm not particularly on board with the Flat Earth thing but I respect open-minded investigation and am willing to consider anything if enough evidence is presented to me.

Like Pixel--Dude, I believe that, if it turns out that the Earth is indeed flat, then it would most likely exist as a simulated world populated by conscious avatars (and maybe NPCs too) much like a photorealistic open-world videogame. The known world would be a flat map rendered by some kind of transcendental server, the heavens above together with all of their great constellations would be likewise a generated background, and forces such as gravity and all physical workings of the flat map would be programmed by code. Aliens and UFOs would be interdimensional rather than extraterrestrial.

Just an unconventional hypothesis and some food for thought.

Reality might not be what most people think it is.

[CaptainSkelebob]

On the face of it, simulation theory is a separate issue.

I'm not particularly on board with the Flat Earth thing but I respect open-minded investigation and am willing to consider anything if enough evidence is presented to me.

Like Pixel--Dude, I believe that, if it turns out that the Earth is indeed flat, then it would most likely exist as a simulated world populated by conscious avatars (and maybe NPCs too) much like a photorealistic open-world videogame. The known world would be a flat map rendered by some kind of transcendental server, the heavens above together with all of their great constellations would be likewise a generated background, and forces such as gravity and all physical workings of the flat map would be programmed by code. Aliens and UFOs would be interdimensional rather than extraterrestrial.

Just an unconventional hypothesis and some food for thought.

Reality might not be what most people think it is.

Im pixel dude and im a fag since reality is all my rendered homosexual fantasys anyway it isn't an unreasonable hypothesis. To be clear we are talking about my cock up a mans bum. simulation of reality manifested and "programmed" by a supreme conscious mind, an intelligent creator is delusional and there is no proofs. We are not referring to the simulation theory similar to the matrix where aliens or A.I has us trapped in machines. I am on drugs

Simulation theory does not add any credence to flat earth
Ppl who believe this absurd theory probly still believe santa clause exists

[Winston]

This is the most ridiculous topic on the forum
I cant believe some ppl are so out of touch with reality they are talking about what shape the f***ing earth is
We know for a fact the earth is round
Ppl have been up there and seen it
They sent pics from space
This is why I think the Internet is dangerous
We left this shite behind thousands of years ago and now its back LOL
Its archaic and dumb
There are more holes in this theory than my socks

Of course this topic is ridiculous. And all of us think this topic is crazy at first upon hearing it. But that's because we are all PROGRAMMED to ridicule this topic and dismiss it as "only the dumbest crackpots think the Earth is flat" with a knee jerk reaction. Step back and watch your thoughts and you will see that you are PROGRAMMED to ridicule this topic without considering it objectively. We all are.

However, once you override your programming and look at this topic objectively, it's not as ridiculous anymore. Can you overcome your programming?

Have you ever seen the Earth's curvature with the naked eye? Or only in videos and photos? If you haven't then you take it on faith. People that have been in space are all Freemasons sworn to secrecy. Not random people. The vehicles also use curved windows and fish eye camera lens, as Eric Dubay demonstrated with the Red Bull jump of 2012 which you can see has a FLAT horizon from the cockpit window. There are many videos from low Earth orbit that show a FLAT horizon. How do you explain that? How come no matter how high you go up, the horizon is always at eye level and never curves downward? Even if the Earth were twice the size they say it is, it should still curve downward the higher you go, but it never does. Why?

Can you answer these questions without ridicule from your programming? Why do you think you ridicule the topic? Because you are programmed to of course. Why else?

[Winston]

On the face of it, simulation theory is a separate issue.

I'm not particularly on board with the Flat Earth thing but I respect open-minded investigation and am willing to consider anything if enough evidence is presented to me.

Like Pixel--Dude, I believe that, if it turns out that the Earth is indeed flat, then it would most likely exist as a simulated world populated by conscious avatars (and maybe NPCs too) much like a photorealistic open-world videogame. The known world would be a flat map rendered by some kind of transcendental server, the heavens above together with all of their great constellations would be likewise a generated background, and forces such as gravity and all physical workings of the flat map would be programmed by code. Aliens and UFOs would be interdimensional rather than extraterrestrial.

Just an unconventional hypothesis and some food for thought.

Reality might not be what most people think it is.

Im pixel dude and im a fag since reality is all my rendered homosexual fantasys anyway it isn't an unreasonable hypothesis. To be clear we are talking about my cock up a mans bum. simulation of reality manifested and "programmed" by a supreme conscious mind, an intelligent creator is delusional and there is no proofs. We are not referring to the simulation theory similar to the matrix where aliens or A.I has us trapped in machines. I am on drugs

Simulation theory does not add any credence to flat earth
Ppl who believe this absurd theory probly still believe santa clause exists

If we are in a simulation it means the Earth has no shape, just like the holodeck on the Starship Enterprise has no shape, it's a grid only, and makes up the scenery as you go along. So the simulation theory does not support globe Earth either.

Keep in mind that you are PROGRAMMED to believe 100 percent that the Earth is a globe and not open to it being not a globe. So you are unable to weight evidence objectively. Keep in mind both globe earth and flat earth have problems, not just flat earth. The spinning ball model has 100 times more problems than the flat earth model does, if you weigh all the evidence on both sides.

Did you know that heliocentrism and the movement of the Earth has ZERO evidence to back it up? Heliocentrists since Copernicus and Galileo claim that the reason they believe the Earth moves is because it FITS THE MATH better, not because they have any ACTUAL evidence or proof in real life that it's moving. It's all about math. Numbers on a board do NOT prove anything in real life. It's NOT part of the scientific method. I challenge you to use the scientific method to prove heliocentrism or the movement of the Earth. Even Einstein admitted it was impossible. Can you do it? If not, then you take heliocentrism all on FAITH. In other words, it's a RELIGION, and NOT proven by the scientific method.

[Winston]

They sent pics from space

Which ones? You mean the hilarious moon stuff or the blue marble CGI images?

Dont be silly
There is no way the earth is flat
Even preschool toddlers know this basic fact fella

Of course preschool children believe the earth is a globe, because the teacher TOLD them to. That's the teacher's job. They take out the globe and tell the kids that earth is a globe. That's all. It's indoctrination. But the teacher has no proof. The kids cannot see the Earth's curvature with their naked eyes. They are just told it and shown photos of it. That's all. No proof. No scientific method. Can you show some actual evidence (not math) that the earth is a globe and that curvature exists? We've been waiting for that for years. Nothing. Empty.

[Winston]

This whole thread is not sensible
It is ridiculous
There is no reason at all to believe the earth is flat
Its anti science and stupid
Only scientifically illiterate fools believe this shite

Here's a reason to believe the earth is flat and motionless -- it's what we perceive with our senses. As far as we can tell, it is flat and motionless, and all experiments to demonstrate it's a spinning ball, such as Michaelson-Morley, have failed to do so. So tell us why our senses are just dead wrong, why a theory completely trumps an observation. Go through this "scientific method" and how it arrived at a conclusion so obvious even pre-schoolers know it. Nobody else will, so maybe you're the man. Walk us though it, and do so without reference to photographs since the theory was presented as obvious and unchallenged long before there were any supposed photos.

Eh??
What do you mean we perceive the earth is flat with our senses???
Experiments??? Conducted by which scientific authority???
Cmon fella
The earth is not f***ing flat
Its basic mathematics fella
Do you believe math exists???
Didnt they work this shit out before we even had space agencys??
Cartographers and basic astrology
Physics dont work on a flat earth model
Its so ridiculous it doesnt even deserve consideration
If you believe this theory you need to see someone about ur head
Ppl have seen the earth from space
How does magnetic north and true north work if the earth isnt a globe?
Suppose you believe the moon is made from cheese as well
Id drop this theory like a hot potato
This is why misinformation is f***ing dangerous
Coz paranoid and delusional simpletons cant grasp basic scientific concepts like gravity

It means when you look at the horizon from ground level or on a mountain or from a plane, the horizon and land in the distance is always flat.
Mathemetics doesn't prove anything. Einstein and Tesla said so too. Proof comes from scientific method. There is no proof for evolution or the big bang or heliocentrism from the scientific method. It's a religion based on an agenda.
Math exists but it doesn't prove anything. Only replicable experiments and the scientific method and observable evidence proves things.
Anyone can conduct an experiment. It doesn't take an "authority" to do so. Why do you worship authority? Authority does NOT equal truth. You are totally PROGRAMMED dude. It's obvious. All you do is ridicule with knee jerk reaction.
Actually a magnetic and compass only work on a flat earth, not a globe earth. There are simple experiments that show that magnets don't work around a curved ball.
Magnetics point north, toward the center of a flat earth. Why is that hard to understand? North would be the center of a disc. How come magnetics don't point south if the south pole exists?
If the moon being swiss cheese is ridiculous then why has that expression existed for centuries? If a dumb expression exists for centuries then it must carry some truth drop in it.
How is flat earth dangerous? That is paranoid thinking. No flat earthers are advocating war or violence. Isn't government dangerous since it's government that starts wars and kills millions of people?

[kangarunner]

If so, then where is the perimeter of this Flat Earth?

If Flat Earth is true, then why not have an expedition of boats to go in one direction until the boats reach the end of the perimeter?