Is a man who has intercourse with a ladyboy homosexual or bisexual or can he still claim he's "straight"?

[CaptainSkelebob]

Alright, lets settle this once and for all... @CaptainSkelebob has been making the rounds on this forum claiming that it's totally normal for a straight bloke to bone ladyboys. He claims to only fornicate with those who already had their dongs chopped off, opting to only go for blowjobs with those that still possess their dangly bits. As a result, he says, he's still just a 100% heterosexual man.

Others like me, @MrMan and others are of the opinion that a ladyboy is a male no matter what; you cannot fight biology. Even if you chop off a man's nutsack, pump him full of steroids and fashion a neo-vagina out of the tissue of his penis, you'd still be f***ing what is essentially just a male with an open surgical wound in his crotch. Which is absolutely disgusting, but some people are okay with such ridiculous cognitive dissonance. In my view, a man who f***s a ladyboy, either sans penis or with male genitalia remaining, is per definition not 100% straight... he is more likely bisexual, at the very least somewhere "out there" on the Kinsey Scale.

So what do you think, forum? Can you bang ladyboys and still be 100% straight or is that just an illusion made up by down-low men too afraid to admit that some of the shit they're into isn't as "straight" as they'd like to admit?

Oh f**k off MarcosArsehola!!!!
You know as well as I do the 1 time with the ladyboy who had a cock was an accident....
She looked like a girl in the face!!!
She had tits...
I didnt know she had a dong until we already got back to my room!!
Once shes there Im not gunna just tell her to f**k off and f**k about getting another ladyboy!!
A ladyboy with a p***y who looks like a girl and who has tits and a curvy ass is a f***ing woman as far as Im concerned!!!
I dont give a f**k about the what is a woman BS they are arguing about!!!
Im a straight man!!!
I like f***ing p***y and Im not f***ing gay!!!
Next person to call me f***ing gay I swear to god I'll kick my dog!!!
Look at some of these hot ladyboys and tell me you wouldnt f**k them!!
They are totally women and it isnt gay to f**k these!!
I dont care about them being men before!!
They look like hot babes now so why should i care about whether they think theyre real women or ppl dont think theyre women
Nah fellas!!
I like p***y!!!
Which is the complete opposite of gay!!!
Marcos fails with this poll
https://www.jakarta100bars.com/2020/09/ ... a.html?m=1
Try and tell me you wouldnt f**k these and then lie and call urself straight
BWAHAHA
So many faggots around here its unreal

[CaptainSkelebob]

Blah blah blah
I know all about biology
A guy who f***s a p***y is a fuckin faggit!!!
Oh its biology its a man
How is a human with tits and a p***y a fuckig man???
You cant even tell the difference between cock and p***y!!
"p***y is just inside out cock "

[CaptainSkelebob]

You know as well as I do the 1 time with the ladyboy who had a cock was an accident....
She looked like a girl in the face!!!
She had tits...

It's okay bro. Accidental homosexuality doesn't really count... but knowingly doing sexual stuff, repeatedly, with ladyboys... that's kinda "suspicious" behavior man. Just sayin'.

Once shes there Im not gunna just tell her to f**k off and f**k about getting another ladyboy!!
A ladyboy with a p***y who looks like a girl and who has tits and a curvy ass is a f***ing woman as far as Im concerned!!!

That's very woke of you, Captain. "Trans women are women!" you sound quite... modern.

Next person to call me f***ing gay I swear to god I'll kick my dog!!!

It's okay man, you can kick your dog. Or screw your mates girlfriend. Or bang a ladyboy. Do whatever the hell you want dude. I'm just having a little debate here that's all on the merits of boning ladyboys and if doing so makes a man bi or not.

Marcos fails with this poll

A bit early to say I "failed" with the poll when it's barely been up for like twenty minutes lol. Lets wait and see other members of the forum weigh in with their opinions. Lets hear the majority decide whether or not you're a poof or not.

https://www.jakarta100bars.com/2020/09/ ... a.html?m=1
Try and tell me you wouldnt f**k these and then lie and call urself straight

Sure, I'll tell ya: I wouldn't knowingly f**k these creatures, nope. Once I know someone has male chromosomes and was born male, my boner just, dies instantly. Sorry man. It is, what it is. I like my ladies with God-given punanis, wombs, ovaries, the works.

Ur boner wouldnt just go and you know it!!!
Its OK bro accidentally homosexuality doesnt count how can you say these salacious ladyboys arent sexy???
And im not into all this woke stuff either!!!
I dont give a f**k what ppl I identify as so long as their delusions dont affect me!
Which they dont
So I dont give a f**k
I wouldnt give a f**k if this trans stuff was outlawed
I dont care about their freedom
Their philosophy
I dont care about any of it
I just see a hot ladyboy with a smoking hot body and a ladys p***y and I wanna f**k em
Thats not gay
Thats ultra alpha masculinity!!!
Only fags dont get boners when they get indecent proposal from these babes
Debate all you want
Have a group of basjetcases tell you im a fag or whatever!!
I know i am straight and I know I love p***y
So piss off

[publicduende]

Alright, lets settle this once and for all... @CaptainSkelebob has been making the rounds on this forum claiming that it's totally normal for a straight bloke to bone ladyboys. He claims to only fornicate with those who already had their dongs chopped off, opting to only go for blowjobs with those that still possess their dangly bits. As a result, he says, he's still just a 100% heterosexual man.

Others like me, @MrMan and others are of the opinion that a ladyboy is a male no matter what; you cannot fight biology. Even if you chop off a man's nutsack, pump him full of hormones and fashion a neo-vagina out of the tissue of his penis, you'd still be f***ing what is essentially just a eunuch with an open surgical wound in his crotch. Which is absolutely disgusting, but some people are okay with such ridiculous cognitive dissonance. In my view, a man who f***s a ladyboy, either sans penis or with male genitalia remaining, is per definition not 100% straight... he is more likely bisexual, at the very least somewhere "out there" on the Kinsey Scale.

So what do you think, forum? Can you bang ladyboys and still be 100% straight or is that just an illusion made up by down-low men too afraid to admit that some of the shit they're into isn't as "straight" as they'd like to admit?

@MarcosZeitola

I beg to disagree with this. I have only met ladyboys in Bali (once) and then the Philippines, so can't speak for all ladyboys in the world. Because of their height and body type, lack of body hair and less chiselled facial bone structure, many Asian young men can make for extremely cute ladyboys. Physical attraction is uncorrelated to the perception of gender, it's only based on what our brain perceives as cute, or hot, in terms of body and face shape and proportions.

Then, of course, from feeling attracted to a feminine-looking body or face to having full sex with those bodies and faces, there's a bit of a difference. That's where your adult brain kicks in and should tell you that some caution and restraint should apply.

I have been with ladyboys a few times, no more than 5 times as I can recall. One time in Manila, the rest in Davao. They were all really cute looking boys on Hormone Replacement Therapy, which at least in 3 cases had changed their body and face shapes considerably. Their asses were more round and plump (unlike the typical pancake butt of a Filipina), their face contours also rounder and undistinguishable from that of a cute, or hot, girl.

As you may or may not know, HRT reduces penis functionality, so they all had small and flaccid penises which I tried to touch but stopped immediately after, as it felt weird. Body smell is very important and, in those 3 cases, HRT had removed the strong male body odour. They smelled as good as girls.

I won't go into more details, other than I never had full penetrative sex with any of them. Two of them gave me some of the best BJs I have ever had in my life, confirming the theory that a born male knows exactly how to pleasure a shaft.

All in all, there's no doubt that I prefer girls and only did what I did out of wanting to experiment. The novelty effect waned after those 5 times and I, frankly, wouldn't do it again, not even if they pay me. All of the ladyboys were of age (the younger being 19) and no money was exchanged, so where was the wrong in that?

I got plenty of shit from living in the Philippines and I will continue to for as long as I live here. The only fringe benefit I ever drew from this country was the amount of sexual shenanigans I could get, which I wouldn't have even dared to dream in the UK or Italy. Threesomes and foursomes, sex with married women in front of their cuck hubbies, this girl and her sister, even identical twins. So, for the sake of experimenting, why not ladyboys?

So no, having occasionally being with ladyboys doesn't make a man gay, just like even being with a man a few times doesn't make a man gay. Gay is a solid sexual orientation to me, when someone is exclusively attracted to men and seeks full-blown sex and relationships with one of them.

And even then, @MarcosZeitola , what's wrong with gays? You're more open minded than that my friend, come on!

[Outcast9428]

To be honest, I don’t really care… I’d rather Skelebob have sex with ladyboys anyway.

[publicduende]

You know what, man, I'm not even going to be mean or judgemental about it. People are into all sorts of freaky things, and that includes a lot of strictly heterosexual activities too that are still rather icky to me. Perhaps in some ways, in some forms, I am somewhat of a prude, and there are moments when it shows. That doesn't mean I am not open-minded, necessarily. I won't judge you for experimenting a little bit and I am sure plenty of men have done so. Unlike some men here your experimenting seems to have been a fairly limited thing, something you were curious about and once the curiosity was satisfied, the novelty quickly wore off. Likewise, some elements of it seems to have weirded you out a little bit, but like a true trooper, you kept calm and carried on, like a Winston Churchill of the bedroom.

As for sexuality, there's of course a difference between homosexuality, bisexuality, and heterosexuality. Sexuality is a scale, and a lot of people aren't 100% this or that, and there's not necessarily any shame in that at all. For a man to primarily f**k women but sometimes engage in other "experiences" for the sheer novelty of it, I wouldn't say such a man is "gay", that's too extreme and narrow-minded for my own tastes as well. Whether or not a man who does engage in such adventures is 100% heterosexual either, I do not know. That's just between you, God, and Mother Nature. It's none of my concern either way.

As for actual gays, like the full-blown homosexual kind... I don't really say I hold much ill will towards them. I get along quite well with regular gay blokes, although the over-the-top effeminate ones, I sometimes find grating and I will typically avoid them as much as possible. I hate the "gay voice", it annoys me a lot. On the other hand, I am quite friendly with a few of the more 'macho' gay fellows who can just banter, shit-talk and joke around like the best of them, who work out, work hard, play hard and just look, dress and act like any other guy, only they just happen to prefer dick to p***y. Such gays would never even go near a lady, or a ladyboy for that matter... they like what they like and they're honest and upfront about it, so there's no issue there, no hidden agenda and no trickery involved. My very own brother is such a gay male and we get along fabulously.

A guy I know here in Manila, an expat of 15 years and one of the most respected people in the (relatively small and self-referential) "Manila tech scene" has never made a secret that he has two girlfriends, both hot and in their 20s. Of course he is in his late 50s and of course he is loaded. When someone asks him why he has two gfs, he simply replies "because I can".

We all did and do "stuff" in the Philippines "because we can". Behind the veneer of Catholic moral restraints, most Filipinos and Filipinas are pretty lustful creatures, some of whom already have a large box full of fantasies and fetishes in the attic, some of whom quickly fill up that box when free from the burdens of their daily struggle for survival. You, of all people, should know that.

I think what you feel repulsed is towards post-op ladyboys, those with a veritable hairy surgical wound that they want to pass as a vagina. That, it takes a little bit more courage to penetrate. I only had one experience with a post-op ladyboy. She was cute as a button and she told me she had her surgery done in Thailand, after squandering ("investing" she said) all the money her foreign boyfriend gave her so she could open a business. Well, she did indeed open something up, but a shop it ain't I didn't even want to touch her "p*ssy", I limited myself to seeing my shaft disappear into her cute face. I don't think I'll be able to penetrate a surgical wound and, IMHO, neither would the majority of men who are with ladyboys only to experiment.

I don't think you're a prude, I think you're more of a traditional man who cherished traditional masculinity. Something society is forgetting not only to cherish but even to cultivate. One of the last images of London I have etched in my mind is that of this little army of young hip men who displayed some typical masculine trait, like a full-grown, well-groomed beard, yet subscribed to every single woke trait and trope. To me, it was one sign I had to GTFO there, and fast.

[CaptainSkelebob]

To be honest, I don’t really care… I’d rather Skelebob have sex with ladyboys anyway.

Thats the nicest thing youve ever said about me

[CaptainSkelebob]

I beg to disagree with this. I have only met ladyboys in Bali (once) and then the Philippines, so can't speak for all ladyboys in the world. Because of their height and body type, lack of body hair and less chiselled facial bone structure, many Asian young men can make for extremely cute ladyboys. Physical attraction is uncorrelated to the perception of gender, it's only based on what our brain perceives as cute, or hot, in terms of body and face shape and proportions.

Then, of course, from feeling attracted to a feminine-looking body or face to having full sex with those bodies and faces, there's a bit of a difference. That's where your adult brain kicks in and should tell you that some caution and restraint should apply.

I have been with ladyboys a few times, no more than 5 times as I can recall. One time in Manila, the rest in Davao. They were all really cute looking boys on Hormone Replacement Therapy, which at least in 3 cases had changed their body and face shapes considerably. Their asses were more round and plump (unlike the typical pancake butt of a Filipina), their face contours also rounder and undistinguishable from that of a cute, or hot, girl.

As you may or may not know, HRT reduces penis functionality, so they all had small and flaccid penises which I tried to touch but stopped immediately after, as it felt weird. Body smell is very important and, in those 3 cases, HRT had removed the strong male body odour. They smelled as good as girls.

I won't go into more details, other than I never had full penetrative sex with any of them. Two of them gave me some of the best BJs I have ever had in my life, confirming the theory that a born male knows exactly how to pleasure a shaft.

All in all, there's no doubt that I prefer girls and only did what I did out of wanting to experiment. The novelty effect waned after those 5 times and I, frankly, wouldn't do it again, not even if they pay me. All of the ladyboys were of age (the younger being 19) and no money was exchanged, so where was the wrong in that?

I got plenty of shit from living in the Philippines and I will continue to for as long as I live here. The only fringe benefit I ever drew from this country was the amount of sexual shenanigans I could get, which I wouldn't have even dared to dream in the UK or Italy. Threesomes and foursomes, sex with married women in front of their cuck hubbies, this girl and her sister, even identical twins. So, for the sake of experimenting, why not ladyboys?

So no, having occasionally being with ladyboys doesn't make a man gay, just like even being with a man a few times doesn't make a man gay. Gay is a solid sexual orientation to me, when someone is exclusively attracted to men and seeks full-blown sex and relationships with one of them.

And even then, @MarcosZeitola , what's wrong with gays? You're more open minded than that my friend, come on!

You know what, man, I'm not even going to be mean or judgemental about it. People are into all sorts of freaky things, and that includes a lot of strictly heterosexual activities too that are still rather icky to me. Perhaps in some ways, in some forms, I am somewhat of a prude, and there are moments when it shows. That doesn't mean I am not open-minded, necessarily. I won't judge you for expirimenting a little bit and I am sure plenty of men have done so. Unlike some men here your expirimenting seems to have been a fairly limited thing, something you were curious about and once the curiosity was satisfied, the novelty quickly wore off. Likewise, some elements of it seems to have weirded you out a little bit, but like a true trooper, you kept calm and carried on, like a Winston Churchill of the bedroom.

As for sexuality, there's of course a difference between homosexuality, bisexuality, and heterosexuality. Sexuality is a scale, and a lot of people aren't 100% this or that, and there's not necessarily any shame in that at all. For a man to primarily f**k women but sometimes engage in other "experiences" for the sheer novelty of it, I wouldn't say such a man is "gay", that's too extreme and narrow minded for my own tastes as well. Whether or not a man who does engage in such adventures is 100% heterosexual either, I do not know. That's just between you, God, and Mother Nature. It's none of my concern either way.

As for actual gays, like the full-blown homosexual kind... I don't really say I hold much ill-will towards them. I get along quite well with regular gay blokes, although the over-the-top effeminate ones, I sometimes find grating and I will typically avoid them as much as possible. I hate the "gay voice", it annoys me a lot. On the other hand I am quite friendly with a few of the more 'macho' gay fellows who can just banter, shit-talk and joke around like the best of them, who work out, work hard, play hard and just look, dress and act like any other guy, only they just happen to prefer dick to p***y. Such gays would never even go near a lady, or a ladyboy for that matter... they like what they like and they're honest and upfront about it, so there's no issue there, no hidden agenda and no trickery involved. My very own brother is such a gay male and we get along fabulously. I have zero ill-will towards him.

Last but not least... I agree; the Philippines is a proper Sodom and Gomorrah. A valhalla of filth, degradation, of anything-goes sexual freedom, if one knows where to look, and where to find it. It can be a grand place, and I'm sure both of us have had our fair share of craziness out there. I settled once more with a lovely lady, whom I've shown you a picture of, and I was informed just a few days ago that she is expecting our first child together which is exciting, so all-in-all, I say the Philippines has given me more than it has taken from me, blessed me more than it has cursed me, although perhaps for some of my shenanigans, I'll be going to Hell haha.

Very different attitude towards duende when he f***s a ladyboy!!
Thank you btw @publicduende
Nice to see someone here who actually gets it!!!
If those women I posted were never in an article saying they were ladyboys nobody would of even known!!

[Outcast9428]

With all due respect to @MrMan I don’t understand why the gay stuff bothers him and other traditionalists who think the same way so much… My best friend even seems to think the same way that getting rid of gay marriage needs to be a top priority. I even saw MrMan in another thread saying that gay marriage was worse then polygamy being legalized and that is a big “wtf?” For me.

Polygamy would literally cause the destruction of our civilization as we know it. The social ramifications of legalizing polygamy would be disastrous. From a biblical perspective adultery is much much worse then sodomy on the list of sins. Adultery is severe enough to be one of the Ten Commandments but sodomy is not.

More importantly though, there simply aren’t any social ramifications resulting from a tiny minority of genuinely gay men being left alone. I agree that the LGBT culture and propaganda is toxic but concentrating so hard on getting rid of gay marriage doesn’t make a lot of sense to me when there are much more pressing concerns. I’d rather us focus on stopping the proliferation of extreme pornography, on eliminating affirmative action, getting abortion banned, and instituting marriage loans to help heterosexual couples get married then on getting rid of gay marriage.

I mean, I definitely believe heterosexuality is superior to homosexuality. I don’t believe they are equal. But I see them as not really being worth my attention either. As far as actually gay people are concerned, I feel very “meh” about them. Hookup culture is destroying heterosexual relationships across the country, ruining people for marriage and stripping men and women of their ability to find love and companionship in life. The sadomasochism epidemic is even worse, effecting a much larger percentage of the population, destroying heterosexual marriages and relationships and rendering people completely unfit for marriage in the first place… But some people are more concerned about whether gay people want to call their relationships a marriage or not? I don’t know, I feel like it’s a very misdirected use of energy.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola and @publicduende I mean I’d much rather people choose ladyboys as their forbidden fruit then having threesomes, foursomes, orgies or having sex with married women. All that stuff repulses me on a much deeper level. The ladyboy thing seems “strange” I guess but the other stuff, especially sex with married women .

[publicduende]

@MarcosZeitola and @publicduende I mean I’d much rather people choose ladyboys as their forbidden fruit then having threesomes, foursomes, orgies or having sex with married women. All that stuff repulses me on a much deeper level. The ladyboy thing seems “strange” I guess but the other stuff, especially sex with married women .

I beg to disagree, mate. The only thing better than a hot 20-yo in your bed is...two hot 20-yos in your bed. It's that simple

Anyway, both @MarcosZeitola and I were clearly referring to those experiences as outliers, something that cannot (and won't) become the rule. For piping hot and exciting it is, a three-foursome is not something a man could handle every day. Just like nobody would enjoy a theme park full of rollercoasters if they had to go there every day.

[publicduende]

Very different attitude towards duende when he f***s a ladyboy!!
Thank you btw @publicduende
Nice to see someone here who actually gets it!!!
If those women I posted were never in an article saying they were ladyboys nobody would of even known!!

Well, I don't know if you like ladyboys as your first port of call for sex, or they were just a novelty to you, as they were for me.

Technically I never f*cked a ladyboy, though. For the life of me, the idea of inserting my penis into a non-lubricated surgical wound gives me the cringy chills. YOLO and all that stuff but, like every man worth his salt, I like to set my boundaries.

[publicduende]

It's really something else, yes. And it's hard not to feel like The Man when one finds himself in such circumstances. Takes a lot of discipline to be surrounded by a land of near-infinite opportunities and not... partake, in those opportunities, from time to time. So we just, can't keep our hands out of "cookie jar"...

LOL, at least in my case, the discipline came from the fact that I had a business to run and couldn't invest a lot of time on making these unusual shenanigans happen.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola @publicduende

It’s just gross… Not as gross as a girl getting gangbanged, that is absolutely disgusting, but it’s still gross. I want a girlfriend of mine to feel special because I have sex with her and not act like I’d just bang any girl who offered her body to me.

I don’t feel like it would be difficult to turn down such an offer at all.

[publicduende]

@MarcosZeitola @publicduende

It’s just gross… Not as gross as a girl getting gangbanged, that is absolutely disgusting, but it’s still gross. I want a girlfriend of mine to feel special because I have sex with her and not act like I’d just bang any girl who offered her body to me.

I don’t feel like it would be difficult to turn down such an offer at all.

Sorry, I am trying to get your "gross scale". What's more gross than a girl getting gangbanged...a three-foursome or sex with a ladyboy?