What toxic masculinity really is

[Cornfed]

Pretty much everyone I’ve asked say they think I’m a 7. That sounds about right to me. I can only tell based on stuff like that though, I can’t instinctively determine masculine attractiveness.

So you can't see a man and tell if he is good-looking either? I would not have known Brad PItt was supposed to be good-looking if I hadn't heard or read it somewhere, and the fact that he was a lead in movies. Same with Tom Cruise.

No I can’t tell. I didn’t know Brad Pitt was good looking either until I heard lots of people saying it online.

So if half a guy's face was bitten off by a crocodile, would you really not realise that was a bit unappealing? If you would, could you not just imagine the opposite?

[Outcast9428]

Pretty much everyone I’ve asked say they think I’m a 7. That sounds about right to me. I can only tell based on stuff like that though, I can’t instinctively determine masculine attractiveness.

So you can't see a man and tell if he is good-looking either? I would not have known Brad PItt was supposed to be good-looking if I hadn't heard or read it somewhere, and the fact that he was a lead in movies. Same with Tom Cruise.

No I can’t tell. I didn’t know Brad Pitt was good looking either until I heard lots of people saying it online.

So if half a guy's face was bitten off by a crocodile, would you really not realise that was a bit unappealing? If you would, could you not just imagine the opposite?

I can tell if there’s something wrong looking with a guy and whether he’s ugly, but no I can’t tell if a guy is good looking. I might as well be looking at a couch and trying to figure out whether couchsexuals might find this couch sexy.

[Cornfed]

I can tell if there’s something wrong looking with a guy and whether he’s ugly, but no I can’t tell if a guy is good looking. I might as well be looking at a couch and trying to figure out whether couchsexuals might find this couch sexy.

Odd. Most of us can recognize symmetry, clear complexion, muscle tone, indications of youth and health etc, in men and many animals without wanting to f**k them.

[jacksonsmith18]

It's not a circular argument, you're just bluepilled and don't understand how women work. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it stupid, it's actually the opposite. Women get married to beta providers for their money and abilities yet they're not attracted to them and eventually resent them and either cheat on them with Chad and Tyrone or divorce them completely. You don't understand the difference between actual sexual attraction and what bluepilled conditioning tells you is attractive to women. It happens all the time to bluepilled cucks who get divorced, lose all of their assets and are in denial about being unattractive to women.

In fact females are not just attracted to looks, but you are not going to be able to understand that until you are capable of appreciating very basic logic, which most likely won't happen in this lifetime. As a general rule, if you assume that disagreements are the result of you being a complete idiot rather than any problem with the other guy, you will be right the vast majority of the time. There's a good life hack tip for you.

This is bullshit. Everyone that actually has interacted with women and is not a bluepilled beta knows that women judge your personality off of looks and interact differently with you based on looks. Basically to women, if you are good looking then you have a good personality but if you're bad looking then you have a bad personality. You think women are more complex than they actually are.

This is the truth

[MrMan]

I can tell if there’s something wrong looking with a guy and whether he’s ugly, but no I can’t tell if a guy is good looking. I might as well be looking at a couch and trying to figure out whether couchsexuals might find this couch sexy.

Odd. Most of us can recognize symmetry, clear complexion, muscle tone, indications of youth and health etc, in men and many animals without wanting to f**k them.

Women can have these characteristics without being especially pretty. An odd shaped face that is symmetrical isn't necessarily pretty. I'd have to guess the same way with men.

I can look at a horse and pay attention to complexion (coat on the face area) muscle tone, look for indications, youth, health, etc., but I wouldn't know if female horses thought they were good looking, and I'd be going over a checklist.

I saw a documentary and read about some research on what is perceived as beautiful. So intellectually I can think about those things. Does the face fit the golden ratio? I can't calculate that. But if I saw a woman's face that I thought was pretty, it probably would have symmetry, fit the golden ratio, with thin neck and thin feminine jaw, possible larger eyes or high cheek bones or whatever other 'exaggerated' features can depart from the mean that actually enhance looks rather than detracting from them. I can intellectually break down components of what makes a woman good-looking. But I'd be guessing about the golden ratio part because I can't calculate that in my head.

But I see the woman's face and instantly think she's pretty. Then I could look for features to see if they confirm the theory. With the guy, there is no instant recognition of whether he is good-looking, or if there is, maybe it is a guess. If he looks like another movie star, I can guess based on that. If it's a lead, or a love interest in a movie, I can guess based on that.

If a man is especially weird-looking, I can perceive that. Like I said I can guess that Danny Devito is not good looking. If a man has a sagging Alfred Hitchcock jaw and a cleft nose, I can tell he's bad-looking. Someone mentioned Adam Sandler. If a woman had told me women think he's hot and no one had said otherwise, I'd have believed that.

Just curious given some of your racial comments--- Can you tell if black women are good-looking to black men? I'm not talking about Black women who look like white women with dark skin, feature-wise. I'm talking about an African American with Bantu looks. And you see a scene in a movie where some black men go on about how good-looking she is?

I don't consider myself racist. I don't hate Blacks. I appreciate Black people as people. I've seen black women I think I pretty, and some of the Ethiopieans are nice-looking. But I remember watching Black shows and seeing men talk about how hot a black actress was and saying how pretty she is. Facially, Whitney Houston or Beyonce don't fit my model for facial beauty. I can tell they are better looking than some other regular Black women I see. Some black women who have some Black features are pretty to me, but it seems far less likely for me to perceive that than a black man raised among Blacks.

I am more likely to perceive Asian women as pretty, but there are also a set of Malay features I don't find particularly attractive. A smaller percentage of thin, young Indonesian women would be pretty to me than thin, young white or Chinese women would be. But the one I ended up with is better looking than the vast majority of white or Chinese women (especially Chinese women in Indonesia. Rarely have I seen one who was spectacularly pretty.)

[MrMan]

Pretty much everyone I’ve asked say they think I’m a 7. That sounds about right to me. I can only tell based on stuff like that though, I can’t instinctively determine masculine attractiveness.

So you can't see a man and tell if he is good-looking either? I would not have known Brad PItt was supposed to be good-looking if I hadn't heard or read it somewhere, and the fact that he was a lead in movies. Same with Tom Cruise.

No I can’t tell. I didn’t know Brad Pitt was good looking either until I heard lots of people saying it online.

I'm younger, so I knew Tom Cruise was good-looking because girls at school talked about it. And people talked about Brad Pitt being good-looking. Guys on this forum said square jaws are good-looking. I can look at features like that, if I wanted to try to figure out if a guy is good-looking. It's not a skill I really need in life, so I don't do that.

With my kids, I can perceive a level of attractiveness for the girls. With my son, I don't have a clue. One very hefty middle aged lady at the doctor's office told my son he was good looking. Someone else did. I've got no clue. I told him as much. I asked him how he liked being told he was good-looking. He liked it. I asked him how he liked it from a hefty middle aged black lady. I don't think that part did much for him, at least not the hefty, middle-aged woman. I think he prefers white women's looks to Asians, and that's all I know about his racial preferences.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Here!!!
WTF are you fags doing talking about which guys are good looking???
This is a thread about what toxic masculinity is!! We are not sticking to the topic!
If you want to make a thread about which guys you all think are hot and which of them you wanna blow off then ur all welcome to talk about that gay shit in ur own threads!
The topic is what is toxic masculinity???
Alpha males who bang women for fun and do what is natural?
Or beta males who are subserviant little vagina fledglings and hate what real masculinity is all about??

[Outcast9428]

That’s the percentages of girls who have any masochistic fantasies at all. Not necessarily that they are hardcore into it. For that, it appears to be more around 25%-35% of non-Asian girls and 12% of Asian girls who have serious degradation fetishes.

I hope you understand why I am so paranoid about any sign of masochism in a woman now. Also, these statistics have doubled from 30 years ago. Girls of other races in the 90s were more like modern Asian girls and Asian girls back then had virtually no masochistic fantasies of any kind much less serious ones. I believe the porn industry is responsible for making these fetishes a lot more common then they used to be. 56% of people doing this stuff claim to be at least somewhat influenced by porn while 25% claim to have been influenced a lot by porn.

The Asian men also reported being half as likely to have fantasies of hurting someone during sex. Sadistic fantasies are not as common among anyone as masochistic ones are. Asian men were also just as likely as Asian girls to say love was needed in order to have sex, both of whom agreed with this at 64% compared to 32% of White men and 50% of White women.

Crazy world we live in, brother. My goodness I'm kinda scared raising daughters in this day and age. Like my goodness. Even the 'memes' nowadays are kinda hinting at this shit. It's pretty much everywhere lol.

I agree, what I would say is be very proactive about protecting them from violent porn. That’s the vector for most of this. There are apps and extensions you can put on household computers that block against those websites. As they get older be sure to vet every guy they are dating. I think one can get a pretty good sense for if a guy is a degenerate or not.

I think it’s important to prevent sons from developing an interest in that stuff too. That kind of stuff never shows up in ecchi anime. Ecchi anime is literally designed to be “safe porn for teenage boys” lol. Most of those shows are rated 15+ or even 12+ in Japan because they just show girls in short skirts, panty shots, make out scenes, and nudity for the 15+ ones. Hentai is obviously a different matter. I’ve seen some hentais that people told me were very mild but that’s pretty much it. I have to be careful what I watch because if any porn I watch starts venturing into the wrong territory I get lightheaded and feel like I’m gonna be sick. Going from horny to lightheaded/sick feels like a really terrible transition but I consider it to be God’s amulet of protection.

[Cornfed]

You're a f***ing boomer loser who had to go to a third world country to try to get p***y because you couldn't get any in the west and pretend to be an alpha. If @Cornfed was redpilled then he wouldn't need your faggot ass defending him this thread because real redpillers can do it themselves. You should hang out with your other "alpha" friend on here who literally makes threads about men becoming ladyboys and wearing dresses. You know, the same faggot that made this thread.

It sounds like you are going off the rails. Perhaps some covaids vaccine boosters would make you feel better about things.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Mercer is such a queen
I dont know why he has to be so triggered just because real men exist out there....
This is what I was talking about fellas!!
Isnt Mercer showing us what toxic masculinity is right here???
Its jealousy and bitterness and not to mention its pathetic
Just interacting with that faggot can make ur cock smaller
Thats how much of a feminine little vagina fledging he is....
Alpha masculinity is natural and healthy and leaves guys full of confidence!
Look at me fellas!!!
Im alpha and im confident and successful!!!
Ladys want me and little beta fags secretly want to be me

[Outcast9428]

I agree, what I would say is be very proactive about protecting them from violent porn. That’s the vector for most of this. There are apps and extensions you can put on household computers that block against those websites. As they get older be sure to vet every guy they are dating. I think one can get a pretty good sense for if a guy is a degenerate or not.

It's kinda hard to tell sometimes. I knew a guy who I felt looked very milquetoast, nerdy, non-threatening... he even talked like he was a fifty-year-old accountant, although he was merely in his twenties. Always conservatively dressed, too, and had a fairly conservative world view as well. But it turns out he was into some sick and extreme shit and literally wanted to "face f**k" girls until they puked and stuff like that.

And that's the scary part... the "never really knowing". Like the kindly grandfather who died, everyone on Facebook crying about it, looked like a fine fellow and later on I hear he had an inappropriate relationship with three of his own daughters. Scary world out there.

I think it’s important to prevent sons from developing an interest in that stuff too. That kind of stuff never shows up in ecchi anime. Ecchi anime is literally designed to be “safe porn for teenage boys” lol. Most of those shows are rated 15+ or even 12+ in Japan because they just show girls in short skirts, panty shots, make out scenes, and nudity for the 15+ ones.

I have no clue how I'd prevent my sons from having certain preferences, sexually, or my daughters for that matter. It seems the best one can do is just try and monitor their watching habits and say a little prayer... a lot of this is luck of the draw, I suppose.

I have to be careful what I watch because if any porn I watch starts venturing into the wrong territory I get lightheaded and feel like I’m gonna be sick. Going from horny to lightheaded/sick feels like a really terrible transition but I consider it to be God’s amulet of protection.

My goodness, brother, that's just gorgeous. You're really a next level wholesome dude. Never change that haha. God's Amulet of Protection cracked me up, but in a good way lol.

Yeah I get it, looks can be deceiving. One thing I would say is people’s energy vibe can tell you a lot. In my experience, good people just exude warmth. It’s like you can see it in their eyes. It’s not so much about the outward behavior or appearance but some people, you can just tell. If somebody gives me a neutral energy reading I’m more suspicious. It doesn’t mean they’re a bad person but in my experience, a lot of bad people who know how to hide it give off neutral energy readings. I’m not saying a neutral energy reading means they are a bad person just that it’s much harder to tell.

I can’t say if it would work for everyone but I know that for me, my parents have a philosophy of having traditional views on sex but not being prudes about it either. They did talk to me about it and tried to set boundaries of what they believed was acceptable and not acceptable. My mom told me when I was 14 that people need to masturbate because excessive repression leads to deviance and perversion. I think people should use their imagination most of the time and use visual images as a treat. I had a rule going from 15 years of age forward that I had to use my imagination 3/4 times. You don’t have to be that specific but you can say “don’t rely on visual images, if you are dependent on them then that is bad.”

I believe that a traditionalist should consider sexuality to be like a river. You don’t want the river to flood your city so you don’t want to say “c’mon guys it’s just water” and build a city right in the path of the river and let it flood your streets but trying to block the flow of the river entirely will also flood your streets. It should be directed and controlled so it flows through the land in a way that’s beneficial.

Rather then never talking about sex or saying it’s evil. I think the healthiest approach is to make sure they know it can be a wonderful and powerful expression of love and affection when done right. A sexual relationship done right will provide you more joy then anything else in the world. But that having sex where there is no love, no affection, no respect, no connection… Sex done for the purposes of deviance, power, or pride, or any other desires… It is like holding hands with gloves on. It is empty, meaningless, and will probably make you feel worse after having done it then you felt before because of frustration.

[Outcast9428]

Rather then never talking about sex or saying it’s evil. I think the healthiest approach is to make sure they know it can be a wonderful and powerful expression of love and affection when done right. A sexual relationship done right will provide you more joy then anything else in the world. But that having sex where there is no love, no affection, no respect, no connection… Sex done for the purposes of deviance, power, or pride, or any other desires… It is like holding hands with gloves on. It is empty, meaningless, and will probably make you feel worse after having done it then you felt before because of frustration.

This is all quite fascinating to me because I've done both these things... I have had sex that was meaningful, and sex devoid of meaning. And in all honesty, some of the most amazing and fascinating sexual encounters I have had, have been in the more casual context. Now granted I've had amazing sex within committed relationships as well. But for me, after a certain number of encounters, a certain number of years, the joy sort of gets taken out of things. Am I alone in this, am I somehow fundamentally broken for feeling this way? I do not know. But I do know that many other men feel the same way. Like I love sex, within marriage, within a stable relationship. But sooner or later, the excitement dies down a little. For me, that is.

I've noticed that, for instance, if I would sleep with a new partner again at the beginning of a new fling or relationship, the first times we do it I'm rock-hard, and I can do it again, and again, round after round, not to brag or be vulgar but after a few weeks, or months, I'm not in that state of mind anymore. Things become a little boring. I'm still happy with the girl, we're fine, but I've seen her body many times and I'm a bit, bored?

A lot of men want more sex, with more girls, because perhaps we're programmed to spread our seed and this is, for some men, a viable reproductive strategy. I believe it was @Cornfed who once said that there are two "types" of men; those who marry one woman, stick with her and raise a conservative family, and those who f**k around and impregnate random girls, then ditch them and go on to the next, pumping and dumping their way through life. The degenerate approach would likely land a man with more descendants, as his equally degenerate sons, some raised by single moms after daddy dearest skipped town, will likely follow in his nasty footsteps. Whereas a perfectly decent one-woman-for-life salaryman may raise two incel sons and a frigid repressed daughter for all we know and have only a few or zero grandchildren.

So there's different ways of men reproducing, viewing sex, family, and all of it. Some of this is dictated by nature, dictated perhaps by a man's impulse control, or his levels of testosterone or what-have-you. There are times, my friend, where I feel that I'm essentially fighting against my very nature just to stay with one woman for life. I badly want to do it, be faithful and stay with her. But it's not easy. And I cannot be the only man who feels this way, @Lucas88 or @Pixel--Dude may understand this point, and even @Tsar confided in me once that "one woman may not cut it for him". @WilliamSmith probably gets this too. This... desire. Instinct, if you will, that just calls us.

For instance the very act of not looking at other girls when committed to one? Hard as hell. Not to desire other girls? At times almost impossible. Yes, I can "keep it in my pants" but it's not always something that is easy or even something that feels right. And making love to the same woman for years and years ond end does not satisfy, sexually, all men. I'm sorry to say this but I don't just believe in that. Perhaps at some point, after a certain number of bed partners, a man is ruined the way a woman who sleeps with many men would be ruined. Perhaps that is the case. Or perhaps this is inate in certain men. I do not know. But I spend a lot of time thinking about it, every now and then.

That’s strange, I can’t imagine ever feeling like “the first night” was better then anything that came after it. The first night for me is always the least pleasurable. It’s typically awkward, kind of fumbly, you don’t really understand each other’s bodies yet.

To be quite frank, I’m not very good on the first night . I was told by my ex that the first time we did it was a 5/10, months afterward on the other hand, I had improved to an 8.5/10.

The same thing happens for me though. The first night my orgasm is incredibly weak and feels forced. Six months into the relationship, however, and they become insanely powerful. To the point where it actually frightened me a few times because I didn’t know they could even get that powerful. I know she didn’t do anything differently from before. But what did change was that my feelings of love and affection for her were stronger.

Oxytocin is directly linked to orgasmic strength and sex drive as well. Oxytocin is also the bonding hormone and helps males and females bond to one another.

After my ex broke up with me it took months before I could fantasize about anyone else during my alone time. Any girl I conjured up in my imagination felt inadequate. Using porn was the only way I could separate myself from her psychologically.

Personally I don’t think Tsar is very traditional in the Christian sense. I’ve had about a half a dozen friends from the Middle East and somehow Tsar is more Arab in personality then all of them. He is traditionally Islamic, not traditionally Christian.

[Tsar]

Rather then never talking about sex or saying it’s evil. I think the healthiest approach is to make sure they know it can be a wonderful and powerful expression of love and affection when done right. A sexual relationship done right will provide you more joy then anything else in the world. But that having sex where there is no love, no affection, no respect, no connection… Sex done for the purposes of deviance, power, or pride, or any other desires… It is like holding hands with gloves on. It is empty, meaningless, and will probably make you feel worse after having done it then you felt before because of frustration.

This is all quite fascinating to me because I've done both these things... I have had sex that was meaningful, and sex devoid of meaning. And in all honesty, some of the most amazing and fascinating sexual encounters I have had, have been in the more casual context. Now granted I've had amazing sex within committed relationships as well. But for me, after a certain number of encounters, a certain number of years, the joy sort of gets taken out of things. Am I alone in this, am I somehow fundamentally broken for feeling this way? I do not know. But I do know that many other men feel the same way. Like I love sex, within marriage, within a stable relationship. But sooner or later, the excitement dies down a little. For me, that is.

I've noticed that, for instance, if I would sleep with a new partner again at the beginning of a new fling or relationship, the first times we do it I'm rock-hard, and I can do it again, and again, round after round, not to brag or be vulgar but after a few weeks, or months, I'm not in that state of mind anymore. Things become a little boring. I'm still happy with the girl, we're fine, but I've seen her body many times and I'm a bit, bored?

A lot of men want more sex, with more girls, because perhaps we're programmed to spread our seed and this is, for some men, a viable reproductive strategy. I believe it was @Cornfed who once said that there are two "types" of men; those who marry one woman, stick with her and raise a conservative family, and those who f**k around and impregnate random girls, then ditch them and go on to the next, pumping and dumping their way through life. The degenerate approach would likely land a man with more descendants, as his equally degenerate sons, some raised by single moms after daddy dearest skipped town, will likely follow in his nasty footsteps. Whereas a perfectly decent one-woman-for-life salaryman may raise two incel sons and a frigid repressed daughter for all we know and have only a few or zero grandchildren.

So there's different ways of men reproducing, viewing sex, family, and all of it. Some of this is dictated by nature, dictated perhaps by a man's impulse control, or his levels of testosterone or what-have-you. There are times, my friend, where I feel that I'm essentially fighting against my very nature just to stay with one woman for life. I badly want to do it, be faithful and stay with her. But it's not easy. And I cannot be the only man who feels this way, @Lucas88 or @Pixel--Dude may understand this point, and even @Tsar confided in me once that "one woman may not cut it for him". @WilliamSmith probably gets this too. This... desire. Instinct, if you will, that just calls us.

For instance the very act of not looking at other girls when committed to one? Hard as hell. Not to desire other girls? At times almost impossible. Yes, I can "keep it in my pants" but it's not always something that is easy or even something that feels right. And making love to the same woman for years and years ond end does not satisfy, sexually, all men. I'm sorry to say this but I don't just believe in that. Perhaps at some point, after a certain number of bed partners, a man is ruined the way a woman who sleeps with many men would be ruined. Perhaps that is the case. Or perhaps this is inate in certain men. I do not know. But I spend a lot of time thinking about it, every now and then.

That’s strange, I can’t imagine ever feeling like “the first night” was better then anything that came after it. The first night for me is always the least pleasurable. It’s typically awkward, kind of fumbly, you don’t really understand each other’s bodies yet.

To be quite frank, I’m not very good on the first night . I was told by my ex that the first time we did it was a 5/10, months afterward on the other hand, I had improved to an 8.5/10.

The same thing happens for me though. The first night my orgasm is incredibly weak and feels forced. Six months into the relationship, however, and they become insanely powerful. To the point where it actually frightened me a few times because I didn’t know they could even get that powerful. I know she didn’t do anything differently from before. But what did change was that my feelings of love and affection for her were stronger.

Oxytocin is directly linked to orgasmic strength and sex drive as well. Oxytocin is also the bonding hormone and helps males and females bond to one another.

After my ex broke up with me it took months before I could fantasize about anyone else during my alone time. Any girl I conjured up in my imagination felt inadequate. Using porn was the only way I could separate myself from her psychologically.

Personally I don’t think Tsar is very traditional in the Christian sense. I’ve had about a half a dozen friends from the Middle East and somehow Tsar is more Arab in personality then all of them. He is traditionally Islamic, not traditionally Christian.

@Lucas88 @Pixel--Dude

I actually consider myself Pagan and spiritual, but not the New Age or Neo-Paganism stuff.

I view a girl as being most valuable when she's at her very best and part of that means virginity. There's a deep spiritual and metaphysical aspect of getting a virgin.

Most men can overlook it but someone as spiritual as I am cannot do so in most circumstances.

I would say that my outlook is much more Christian but really ancient versions, but you're right, I am not traditionally Christian religious if you consider the 1900s onward. I don't see anything Islamic about my version of traditionalism.

I am more like a traditional Pagan with large amounts of universal noble ideals like family (if I had one), honor, valuing virginity, power, strength, beauty, pride, and loyalty.

Nature is also a guide to life in some situations.

I don't identify with Abrahamic religions or any religion. I do think they have value on some level but I don't believe in them.

But yes, I would ideally have a few girls. Especially because I really would like to have threesomes and watch my girls do stuff. That's definitely something that Roman Emperors would enjoy watching or doing. Polygyny, one man (me) and multiple girls, in a monogamous relationship. Monogamous polygyny. It's also a good way to keep the girls in line because they'll have healthy competition and they can leave, but they'll know that I have other girls. If they know a guy has other options, it makes them try harder and not want to leave.

I can say that if a girl has too many options, my desire to try to win her over and compete for her completely disappears. I don't want to compete for a girl.

I want to slowly get a girl and them once I have power over her, she gives me love, and I eventually get to control her. She will need me even if she doesn't desire me or her desire lessens.

I have talked to girls who said they're open to being in relationships based on pragmatism. One was a Ukrainian girl.

One of my greatest mistakes in my youth was believing and focusing on love. It's power that determines everything. With enough power, almost anything is possible. People who are powerful or have some level of noticeable power are always able to easily get love. The truth is that the Hollywood version of love doesn't exist on reality and neither does "fairy tale" love.

Having multiple girls also ensures more genetic variety and survival of genes.

Love can eventually form with time but the most people can hope for in a relationship partner is a good friendship and mutual interests in a long-term relationship. Love eventually forms even in arranged marriages and that's because love as portrayed in fictional media doesn't actually exist or happen.

[Lucas88]

This is all quite fascinating to me because I've done both these things... I have had sex that was meaningful, and sex devoid of meaning. And in all honesty, some of the most amazing and fascinating sexual encounters I have had, have been in the more casual context. Now granted I've had amazing sex within committed relationships as well. But for me, after a certain number of encounters, a certain number of years, the joy sort of gets taken out of things. Am I alone in this, am I somehow fundamentally broken for feeling this way? I do not know. But I do know that many other men feel the same way. Like I love sex, within marriage, within a stable relationship. But sooner or later, the excitement dies down a little. For me, that is.

I've noticed that, for instance, if I would sleep with a new partner again at the beginning of a new fling or relationship, the first times we do it I'm rock-hard, and I can do it again, and again, round after round, not to brag or be vulgar but after a few weeks, or months, I'm not in that state of mind anymore. Things become a little boring. I'm still happy with the girl, we're fine, but I've seen her body many times and I'm a bit, bored?

A lot of men want more sex, with more girls, because perhaps we're programmed to spread our seed and this is, for some men, a viable reproductive strategy. I believe it was @Cornfed who once said that there are two "types" of men; those who marry one woman, stick with her and raise a conservative family, and those who f**k around and impregnate random girls, then ditch them and go on to the next, pumping and dumping their way through life. The degenerate approach would likely land a man with more descendants, as his equally degenerate sons, some raised by single moms after daddy dearest skipped town, will likely follow in his nasty footsteps. Whereas a perfectly decent one-woman-for-life salaryman may raise two incel sons and a frigid repressed daughter for all we know and have only a few or zero grandchildren.

So there's different ways of men reproducing, viewing sex, family, and all of it. Some of this is dictated by nature, dictated perhaps by a man's impulse control, or his levels of testosterone or what-have-you. There are times, my friend, where I feel that I'm essentially fighting against my very nature just to stay with one woman for life. I badly want to do it, be faithful and stay with her. But it's not easy. And I cannot be the only man who feels this way, @Lucas88 or @Pixel--Dude may understand this point, and even @Tsar confided in me once that "one woman may not cut it for him". @WilliamSmith probably gets this too. This... desire. Instinct, if you will, that just calls us.

For instance the very act of not looking at other girls when committed to one? Hard as hell. Not to desire other girls? At times almost impossible. Yes, I can "keep it in my pants" but it's not always something that is easy or even something that feels right. And making love to the same woman for years and years ond end does not satisfy, sexually, all men. I'm sorry to say this but I don't just believe in that. Perhaps at some point, after a certain number of bed partners, a man is ruined the way a woman who sleeps with many men would be ruined. Perhaps that is the case. Or perhaps this is inate in certain men. I do not know. But I spend a lot of time thinking about it, every now and then.

I completely understand. I too feel in the depths of my being a strong instinct to fcuk many different women while strict monogamy just doesn't feel right at all. I'm naturally wild and full of Dionysian sexual passion. I have an uncontrollable urge to animalistically ravage sexy, brown-skinned, big-butt Latinas. I especially love to aggressively hold them down and sexually dominate them. This is why I love wild, passionate Latin American women and hot Mulatas with jungle genetics. They are the best match for me and turn me on the most. Monogamous sentiments on the other hand feel really effeminate to me. Whenever I've had them I've always felt mentally weaker and less connected to my true masculine nature.

Like you, I also believe that some of my most satisfying sexual encounters have occurred in a non-committed context. I don't need love to find satisfaction in sexual encounters. I only need that extreme fiery passion that is just so ecstatic and addictive. Some guys say that sex without love only has the undesired effect of leaving them feeling even more empty than before, but I've never felt empty after any kind of non-committed sex. I think that those guys just have a different psychological profile or some kind of attachment issues. But I don't have that anymore. I outgrew it. Now I have a much more secure attachment type and don't need love from other people in order to be happy.

I also believe that strict monogamy is flawed as a reproductive strategy. You could beget two kids with your conservative wife following a purely k-selected strategy and then, 20 something years later, both of your kids could be tragically killed in an unforeseen accident, a violent assault, or an animal attack and you would end up without any genetic legacy. Or alternatively your kids could turn out to be homos or become ladyboys and the end result would be the same. But if you bang a few other women on the side and combine with your marriage a secondary r-selected strategy, then you have more insurance for the survival of your genetic legacy. The world is undoubtedly as hazardous place. Even the relatively safer modern world is full of lethal hazards that could potentially decimate a whole family. It seems that in light of this some level of promiscuity has been selected for. That might explain why even many men in monogamous relationships still retain some polygamous instincts.

My passion is knocking the back out of hot Latinas and fulfilling their fantasy of having their pvssies pounded by a masculine, athletic Caucasian man. I also have a love for seeing to sexually frustrated Latina milfs and making them feel desired. This is one of the reasons for which I am obsessed with being in shape and feel depressed if ever I get out of shape.

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I’ve seen some hentais that people told me were very mild but that’s pretty much it. I have to be careful what I watch because if any porn I watch starts venturing into the wrong territory I get lightheaded and feel like I’m gonna be sick. Going from horny to lightheaded/sick feels like a really terrible transition but I consider it to be God’s amulet of protection.

Jesus said that if a man looks on a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart. Do you think God wants you to look at the non-nauseating porn?