Why do Anglo women like BDSM so much?

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It is because men are the rightful leaders of females that they would get off on being choked etc.

That's basically just condoning abuse for the sake of abuse. If you were a real conservative you would not support what is clearly an extremely degenerate behavior that pretty much nobody in the traditional past would've condoned.

I am not sure. I think it is obvious that society has degraded considerably and the people within society are part of the degradation. A lot of women seem to actually enjoy being abused physically and it seems to manifest as a manner of a psychological problem at the root of it.

Pornography and modern cultural values has essentially brainwashed women into celebrating their own degradation. "Sexually liberated women" are more likely to be into this stuff then traditionally conservative women are because they watch all the porn. Porn has convinced an entire generation of people that this is what normal sexuality looks like. Out of all the methods of brainwashing out there in today's world, news media, music, TV shows, movies, the education system... No propaganda device has been more effective at subverting our society then pornography has been.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with guys looking at soft stuff. Bikini models, the kind of stuff you would've seen in a playboy magazine back in the 50s and 60s. That stuff is harmless. But at least 90% of porn these days is not harmless. It has turned our society into a bunch of sickos and the longer we refuse to address this problem the worse it gets. Even back in the 80s this weird masochistic bullshit was nowhere near as common as it is today.

One thing that is taboo to discuss is that women are also viewing porn in large amounts and much of it is "hardcore". I actually spoke with a lady I dated years ago and asked her if she watched porn and she told me she did.....I asked what kind of stuff do you watch.....she told me she liked to watch "DP's"......lol......Needless to say she is a liberal feminist type in the military, not married, and continues to get broken up with by everyone she dates including myself years ago. Currently, the last time I spoke to her last year she told me she started taking SSRI medications because she was depressed and having other issues. I do believe porn has had an impact on her in a negative manner, so I completely agree with what you are saying. In a sense, porn is a weapon that degrades the society and culture. Pornography should be banned completely in my opinion.

[Outcast9428]

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Its weird how in high school I didn't think anything of stuff like that but now the image of a girl getting DPed is repulsive to me. What degenerate men don't seem to understand is that women who enjoy degrading themselves are not just hurting themselves, they are hurting us too. Women who do this are destroying their ability to pairbond, destroying their ability to be a good wife, a good mother. You need to hold women to high standards if you want women to be marriage material. And both men and women who refuse to conquer their degenerate nature need to be shamed for it.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Its weird how in high school I didn't think anything of stuff like that but now the image of a girl getting DPed is repulsive to me. What degenerate men don't seem to understand is that women who enjoy degrading themselves are not just hurting themselves, they are hurting us too. Women who do this are destroying their ability to pairbond, destroying their ability to be a good wife, a good mother. You need to hold women to high standards if you want women to be marriage material. And both men and women who refuse to conquer their degenerate nature need to be shamed for it.

Indeed. Right now it is a race to the bottom.

Women are openly marking themselves telling you what they are......tats, piercings, pink hair, etc. It is all there to see.

I don't have any hope for this society.

[HouseMD]

@HouseMD Then you are indulging their mental illness and being an irresponsible partner. The mental image of my ex girlfriend, even if she is my ex, being choked is horrifying to picture and revolting to the stomach. I could never do that to somebody I loved.

Hey man, they enjoy it, who am I to judge. I'm not denying someone a good orgasm just because it would look scary to an observer. And it isn't like you're strangling the life out of them, it's gentle pressure to the carotids bilaterally for a few seconds, nothing crazy

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

[flowerthief00]

Pornography should be banned completely in my opinion.

Wow, we've got some moral authoritarians here.

What's wrong with letting people make their own choices AND face the consequences of those choices? We don't do that any more. In the past, a woman who made poor choices would find herself unmarriageable and financially ruined. Today? Poor choices means she can now apply for handouts from the government that the rest of us don't qualify for. Poor choices have been incentivized.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Pornography should be banned completely in my opinion.

Wow, we've got some moral authoritarians here.

What's wrong with letting people make their own choices AND face the consequences of those choices? We don't do that any more. In the past, a woman who made poor choices would find herself unmarriageable and financially ruined. Today? Poor choices means she can now apply for handouts from the government that the rest of us don't qualify for. Poor choices have been incentivized.

I think it is pretty obvious that porn is damaging to society and especially young people. Why not ban it?

You are witnessing what happens when you let people make their own choices....the only problem is there are no consequences in many cases especially for women.

The average person makes terrible choices and they are incentivized to do so in many cases. Why not take away all negative influences that arise from porn? I don't think it should flow through society as it is currently.

[flowerthief00]

Alcohol is also damaging to society and young people. Would you ban that too?

It seems like you might be happier in Saudi Arabia.

[MrMan]

@HouseMD Then you are indulging their mental illness and being an irresponsible partner. The mental image of my ex girlfriend, even if she is my ex, being choked is horrifying to picture and revolting to the stomach. I could never do that to somebody I loved.

Hey man, they enjoy it, who am I to judge. I'm not denying someone a good orgasm just because it would look scary to an observer. And it isn't like you're strangling the life out of them, it's gentle pressure to the carotids bilaterally for a few seconds, nothing crazy

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

There are less risky techniques than choking.

And you thought it was dangerous not to wear a mask a few months ago?

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Alcohol is also damaging to society and young people. Would you ban that too?

It seems like you might be happier in Saudi Arabia.

That is not a bad idea at all. Seeing how disgusting and out of shape the vast majority of Americans are, maybe that would help.

Hell, I would consider banning all seed oils and fast food restaurants.

Then, I would mandate 2 hours of the day for people to exercise and I would allow it during the work day.

Then, I would institute an obesity tax....and other penalties for disgusting sub-humans.

[HouseMD]

@HouseMD Then you are indulging their mental illness and being an irresponsible partner. The mental image of my ex girlfriend, even if she is my ex, being choked is horrifying to picture and revolting to the stomach. I could never do that to somebody I loved.

Hey man, they enjoy it, who am I to judge. I'm not denying someone a good orgasm just because it would look scary to an observer. And it isn't like you're strangling the life out of them, it's gentle pressure to the carotids bilaterally for a few seconds, nothing crazy

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

There are less risky techniques than choking.

And you thought it was dangerous not to wear a mask a few months ago?

It is somewhat dangerous for a layperson but I get explicit video consent first and I'm a doctor who knows the anatomy quite well. I'm too gentle, if anything, precisely because I don't want to do damage

[Outcast9428]

@HouseMD

If consenting to violence is okay then why don't we let people duel each other to the death anymore? How about letting drunk idiots slug it out? This is basically the same logic as that Chicago prosecutor made for not arresting anybody involved in a gang battle that happened because they were all consenting participants. When morality becomes consent based rather then based on objective well being, you can justify doing anything as long as you manipulate them into saying yes first. This is what violent porn has done to women. Manipulate them into saying yes to being abused by perverting their desires. I do not believe that you personally have manipulated them, I actually think you are a victim of a society that has essentially manipulated everyone into degeneracy.

@flowerthief00

Moral authoritarianism is good. Being moral or not moral should not be a choice. You shouldn't have a choice as to whether you harm the people around you or not. If your actions are harmful then they should be punished. And like @OutcastedPhilosopher said, our whole modern day society is ultimately the consequence of giving people too many choices in life.

I don't think all porn should be banned, but the violent and fetish based porn? Absolutely, and impose harsh penalties on anybody producing or distributing that shit.

Imagine if you gave somebody ten different drinks, told them to choose one drink out of the ten. 5 of those drinks will poison them and kill them, 4 of those drinks are tasty but only on a superficial level, one drink out of the ten is not only tasty but gives you loads of vitamins that make you feel better throughout the entire day.

Modern liberalism would basically say that all of these drinks are equally valuable, that we have no right to stop that person from drinking the poisonous drinks, and perhaps even more insidiously, that we can't even encourage them to choose the drink filled with vitamins and instead we have to present all 10 options as if they are equally valid.

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Yes, I will never date a girl who has tattoos or piercings.

[HouseMD]

@HouseMD

If consenting to violence is okay then why don't we let people duel each other to the death anymore? How about letting drunk idiots slug it out? This is basically the same logic as that Chicago prosecutor made for not arresting anybody involved in a gang battle that happened because they were all consenting participants. When morality becomes consent based rather then based on objective well being, you can justify doing anything as long as you manipulate them into saying yes first. This is what violent porn has done to women. Manipulate them into saying yes to being abused by perverting their desires. I do not believe that you personally have manipulated them, I actually think you are a victim of a society that has essentially manipulated everyone into degeneracy.

@flowerthief00

Moral authoritarianism is good. Being moral or not moral should not be a choice. You shouldn't have a choice as to whether you harm the people around you or not. If your actions are harmful then they should be punished. And like @OutcastedPhilosopher said, our whole modern day society is ultimately the consequence of giving people too many choices in life.

I don't think all porn should be banned, but the violent and fetish based porn? Absolutely, and impose harsh penalties on anybody producing or distributing that shit.

Imagine if you gave somebody ten different drinks, told them to choose one drink out of the ten. 5 of those drinks will poison them and kill them, 4 of those drinks are tasty but only on a superficial level, one drink out of the ten is not only tasty but gives you loads of vitamins that make you feel better throughout the entire day.

Modern liberalism would basically say that all of these drinks are equally valuable, that we have no right to stop that person from drinking the poisonous drinks, and perhaps even more insidiously, that we can't even encourage them to choose the drink filled with vitamins and instead we have to present all 10 options as if they are equally valid.

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Yes, I will never date a girl who has tattoos or piercings.

People are allowed to engage in consensual violence. Martial arts, boxing, football, etc. If the goal of it is not death, it is fine. Engaging in violence with *the intent to kill* is not legal because of obvious reasons, don't be stupid

[Tsar]

Alcohol is also damaging to society and young people. Would you ban that too?

It seems like you might be happier in Saudi Arabia.

That is not a bad idea at all. Seeing how disgusting and out of shape the vast majority of Americans are, maybe that would help.

Hell, I would consider banning all seed oils and fast food restaurants.

Then, I would mandate 2 hours of the day for people to exercise and I would allow it during the work day.

Then, I would institute an obesity tax....and other penalties for disgusting sub-humans.

It's not the alcohol that is making people fat. It's the GMOs, high fructose corn syrup, artificial sweeteners, snacks, artificial chemicals in food to trigger addiction to junk food, the stress of American life (school, work, unemployment, poverty, despair, loneliness), and the pharmaceutical industry.

Did you know that antidepressants increase a person's hunger (appetite) causing them to eat more and many American women are on antidepressants? Especially liberal females.

Females will be paying the greatest price because unlike LGBTQ+, who are degenerates but might not be fighting against their individual nature, females that want a family and children and a wedding and marriage will increasingly not get it. This will mean doctors prescribing more and more antidepressants, more junk food being consumed by females, more feminism promoting body positivity, and more health problems.

Men can many times be happier with porn and accept being single (alone) rather than accept what is essentially a two-legged sow (female pig) or landwhale.

A doll for $5,000 is better than an undesirable female.

Women, especially in the West, don't realize they're destroying their lives and futures.

They are not meant to be competing with men or trying to be like men, or being sluts and accept whore behavior as normal.

It seems like every girl including ones that are in their high school teen years are posting pictures sticking out their ass in the tightest yoga pants, or putting their hands over their shirt or crop top (cupping their boobs), or the 18-25 posing like sluts in thongs, or in a thong and using an arm to conceal their boobs, or showing off their new tongue ring. Most girls in the West (Europe) are just sluts and whores. Anglo females, especially American Females, are Fat Sluts and Fat Whores, who aren't just foolish but delusional, because no man unless he has a fat fetish would want a fat girl or landwhale... except for self-hating Black Men that would see getting any White Female as a status achievement to hopefully add Whiteness to their black mixed-race offspring to give it straight hair, better noses, and statistically higher average intelligence.

[Outcast9428]

@HouseMD

If consenting to violence is okay then why don't we let people duel each other to the death anymore? How about letting drunk idiots slug it out? This is basically the same logic as that Chicago prosecutor made for not arresting anybody involved in a gang battle that happened because they were all consenting participants. When morality becomes consent based rather then based on objective well being, you can justify doing anything as long as you manipulate them into saying yes first. This is what violent porn has done to women. Manipulate them into saying yes to being abused by perverting their desires. I do not believe that you personally have manipulated them, I actually think you are a victim of a society that has essentially manipulated everyone into degeneracy.

@flowerthief00

Moral authoritarianism is good. Being moral or not moral should not be a choice. You shouldn't have a choice as to whether you harm the people around you or not. If your actions are harmful then they should be punished. And like @OutcastedPhilosopher said, our whole modern day society is ultimately the consequence of giving people too many choices in life.

I don't think all porn should be banned, but the violent and fetish based porn? Absolutely, and impose harsh penalties on anybody producing or distributing that shit.

Imagine if you gave somebody ten different drinks, told them to choose one drink out of the ten. 5 of those drinks will poison them and kill them, 4 of those drinks are tasty but only on a superficial level, one drink out of the ten is not only tasty but gives you loads of vitamins that make you feel better throughout the entire day.

Modern liberalism would basically say that all of these drinks are equally valuable, that we have no right to stop that person from drinking the poisonous drinks, and perhaps even more insidiously, that we can't even encourage them to choose the drink filled with vitamins and instead we have to present all 10 options as if they are equally valid.

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Yes, I will never date a girl who has tattoos or piercings.

People are allowed to engage in consensual violence. Martial arts, boxing, football, etc. If the goal of it is not death, it is fine. Engaging in violence with *the intent to kill* is not legal because of obvious reasons, don't be stupid

Except that the things you mentioned rarely actually cause pain due to things like boxing gloves or shoulders pads which blunt the impact. The BDSM shit on the other hand, is literally normalizing the sadistic enjoyment of other people's pain.

[flowerthief00]

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Sounds like Sharia Law 2.0 is gonna be great. If I can make a feature request can we have the Sex Police? A Sex Police which can beat down the doors of private homes and taze people while in the act would be terrific.

@Outcast9428

In modern society it IS a felony to administer poison that can kill. Seldom is it so clear-cut tho, and there is a lot more gray out there than there is black & white. A lot of behavior that can cause varying degrees of both harm and pleasure.