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Best evidence that proves the Holocaust occurred

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Before I comment I want to state I am not a denier of any kind, just interested in truth in history, as well as being very sceptical of any official version of history in general......

Interesting page, but its hard to say that there were no holocaust deniers amongst the national socialists, especially as the saying goes 'the victor writes history' and its easy to omit testimony and facts from a controlled court room, especially when torture/extortion could have and likely would have been used. There is strong evidence also that it could not have happened as well, with experts in gas chambers stating as such with the Zundel trials, and many other problems in the official story as well, such as the expense and difficulty, not to mention the evidence in disposing of '6 million' bodies, the support of Hitler in the creation of Israel and the transfer agreement, the official red cross accounts of deaths, and the longtime use of absurd propaganda by Jewish interests going back as far as WWI.

Personally it makes me extremely suspicious that historical revisionists continue to be imprisoned for years at a time, (longer than even murderers) simply for questioning one certain part of history, which doesnt seem to apply when questioning any other holocaust such as the Ukrainian holodomor

'Truth doesnt fear investigation' as the saying goes, and Voltaire once said 'To know who controls you, find out who you are not allowed to criticize'

One can also look at the protocols of zion, which seem to be coming true to a frightening degree in the most minute detail, even though they were lambasted as a giant hoax at the time

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Yes the Holdomor happened 3 times. Fin.
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Holocaust deniers have a tough row to hoe. Given the fact that it occurred relatively recently, there are photos, video footage, and eyewitness accounts from people of different countries and nationalities, including Germans and American soldiers.

You would have a better go of it trying to deny the French Revolution or the Spanish Inquisition.

There will always be debate of the estimates of victims, but the fact that it occurred is incontrovertible as a matter of historical record.

The real aim of the holocaust denier is to foment resentment and hate against Jews as "liars" so as to justify subjugating them yet again. Not a good look in my opinion.
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Contrarian Expatriate wrote:but the fact that it occurred is incontrovertible as a matter of historical record.
It depends what you take “it” to be. The issue isn’t whether WWII happened, the Germans interned a bunch of people in labor camps (like everyone else) including Jews, and some of the Jews died there. All that is obvious. The issue is whether the Germans deliberately killed 6 million Jews, largely by gassing with Zyclon B and diesel fumes in camps in an attempt to exterminate all the Jews in Europe. There is no documented evidence of this. As to eyewitness accounts, a lot of these are hilarious.
There will always be debate of the estimates of victims
Not if the Jews have their way, which in and of itself would tend to suggest their narrative is a croc.
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Cornfed wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:but the fact that it occurred is incontrovertible as a matter of historical record.
It depends what you take “it” to be. The issue isn’t whether WWII happened, the Germans interned a bunch of people in labor camps (like everyone else) including Jews, and some of the Jews died there. All that is obvious. The issue is whether the Germans deliberately killed 6 million Jews, largely by gassing with Zyclon B and diesel fumes in camps in an attempt to exterminate all the Jews in Europe. There is no documented evidence of this. As to eyewitness accounts, a lot of these are hilarious.

There will always be debate of the estimates of victims
Not if the Jews have their way, which in and of itself would tend to suggest their narrative is a croc.
Hoe that road, Corn. Oh wait, it might be easier to hoe a row (CE apparently not having been a farmer in his employment days).
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Those labor camps were so hard with the brothels, amusement parks, soccer fields and such. The internment camps for the Japanese in the United States were worse than the ones for the Jews in Germany. Most Jews died of typhus retreating from the Soviets, also Allied blockades of food into Germany contributed to the death totals. All members of humanity have suffered at some point. Thousands of children were born in Communist prisons and then taken away from their parents. No one talks about that. Society has to stop prioritzing the suffering of Jews, they are no more special than any other group.
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Ralph in Miami wrote:Thousands of children were born in Communist prisons and then taken away from their parents. No one talks about that. Society has to stop prioritizing the suffering of Jews, they are no more special than any other group.
True enough. Stalin killed millions more than Hitler, but the fact that the proportion of Jews killed and the genocidal intent of it gives people that sense that it was morally worse.

Jews do seem to think that the holocaust was the worst crime in the history of mankind. It might be up there, but I can tell you that slaughtered Armenians would beg to differ as well as chopped up Tutsis in Rwanda, and West Africans who after surviving the horrific the Middle Passage against long odds, had to live decades in toil and bondage. They might have preferred quick death to that. Many did and jumped overboard at sea.

All that being said, the Holocaust was a real thing and millions were deported into Nazis hands en masse and were used for labor, and systematically killed off all because they were doing far better than Hitler thought they should be doing.

That's the calling card of the loser, killing off the people you cannot out compete. Turks did the same.
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Cornfed wrote:
Contrarian Expatriate wrote:but the fact that it occurred is incontrovertible as a matter of historical record.
It depends what you take “it” to be. The issue isn’t whether WWII happened, the Germans interned a bunch of people in labor camps (like everyone else) including Jews, and some of the Jews died there. All that is obvious. The issue is whether the Germans deliberately killed 6 million Jews, largely by gassing with Zyclon B and diesel fumes in camps in an attempt to exterminate all the Jews in Europe. There is no documented evidence of this. As to eyewitness accounts, a lot of these are hilarious.
There will always be debate of the estimates of victims
Not if the Jews have their way, which in and of itself would tend to suggest their narrative is a croc.
+1 yeah what "debate"?

There are no lamp shades, soap, ashes, or bones, end of story.

As we all know, the OP was just a troll desperately seeking confirmation for his preconceptions. The posts on his link pretty much amount to "Yeah I watched Schindler's list" lol
1)Too much of one thing defeats the purpose.
2)Everybody is full of it. What's your hypocrisy?
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I am really grateful that modern nazis are holocaust deniers because that means that they are morons which means that they are harmless because they lack the brains to do anything. Of course the laws against holocaust denial are absurd, stupidity shouldn't be illegal.
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You forgot some commas in your post fschmidt just letting you know.
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fschmidt wrote:I am really grateful that modern nazis are holocaust deniers because that means that they are morons which means that they are harmless because they lack the brains to do anything. Of course the laws against holocaust denial are absurd, stupidity shouldn't be illegal.
Why are you so wedded to the holohoax narrative? The fact that some of my relatives died in the war doesn't cause me to think the war was a conspiracy to wipe out my family.
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