Astounded

[EuroGirl23]

Dear men of Happier Abroad,
I have been compelled to post here, I am not going to take up much of your time.

I just want to say how sorry I am that most western women have become, for a lack of a better word, trolls, ugly on the inside and outside. Reading Winstons posts about American women and the feelings being shared here, I am genuinley shocked and saddened, angry also, at the way things have become.

Treating a date like a job interview is a tacky and horrid thing to do, a man is worth so much, it does not matter what he does or does not have, a good heart is priceless in this world. Making someone jump through hoops to date you is not only disgusting, but is something only an entitled, self important "princess" would do, I am ashamed of women like that. Being materialistic, immature, egotistical and smug is nothing to be proud of, ever. All it means is that you are a horrible, soulless person. You men deserve so much better than that. Being obese and expecting people to be attracted to you is shameful, a woman has a duty to look good, be healthy and take care of herself - not just for men but for her own good too. It amazes me that to some women (it seems anyway) wearing a pretty dress, nice shoes and a bit of make up is "dressed up" - I do that to go down to my local shop! I cannot imagine what they would call my version of dressed up! I spend most of my time in dresses, skirts and girly clothes, how on earth someone could consider a hoodie and jeans as suitable for more than lounging around the house is beyond me.

I dont understand why a woman would want to be masculine and deny that she needs a man. I am proud to be female, I love being feminine and while I am ok on my own, having a man to care for and love gives me so much happiness. His happiness is my happiness. I love to cook, I like to keep a clean house and I like to make sure my man has everything he needs, that does not make me a slave or a doormat like some women seem to believe. It just means I am happy in my feminine role and I am proud of that. Men are equal, valuable and deserve to be loved and adored. When each gender comes together it is like Yin and Yang - whole and complete.

(I hope the next bit is not sexually explicit)
I highly dislike the attitude common in western society that a man has to "service" a woman in bed, make her orgasm and act like a porn star, all while forgetting his pleasure. A lot of women I know think that being a starfish is perfectly acceptable, to lie there and let the man do all the work - what a load of bull**** that is!!! I dont think enough people simply make love nowadays, they dont appreciate the simplicity and joy of it. Perhaps my European sensibilities shape this, I think when sex is nothing but swearing, roughness and domination all the time it is easy to bury how emotional, passionate and intimate sex can be. Am I off the mark here? I get the impression that American women are becoming masculine both outside and inside in the bedroom. I admit that I am a bit of a soft pansy.

Being banal and unintelligent, talking like children is downright repulsive, it seems like the average American female IQ is 60. Personally, I have never been able to connect or be friends with American or other Western women, I have previously never been able to understand why but I am beginning to understand.

I just want to say, it is no wonder you have been put off western women and are seeking better companionships abroad - the picture I am seeing is extremely repulsive, horrible and a downright shame. You all deserve partners who love you for you, dont treat you like walking ATM's and want you to perform like circus monkeys. Modern Feminism has a lot to answer for and be ashamed of, American and Western women should be disgusted with themselves.

May I pose a few questions to the men of this board?

How are the changes in the American woman affecting sex?
Are western women prudes generally?
What are the stories behind the worst women you have encountered?

I appreciate that as a woman I do not really have a place here and should the concensus be for me to not participate I will understand, but like you I do share the disillusionment with the Western world. I travel to Eastern Europe, Russia and beyond as much as I can and I am planning to get a one way ticket out, to never return to this society full of banal, materialistic crap where idiots are idolised and good people are ostracised.

Either way, I truly hope all of you get what you want in life and have every happiness. There are good women out there!
Love from a Lady from Europe.

[jamesbond]

Dear men of Happier Abroad,
I have been compelled to post here, I am not going to take up much of your time.
May I pose a few questions to the men of this board?

How are the changes in the American woman affecting sex?
Are western women prudes generally?
What are the stories behind the worst women you have encountered?

Either way, I truly hope all of you get what you want in life and have every happiness. There are good women out there!
Love from a Lady from Europe.

To answer one of your questions, YES American women are prudes big time, especially white American women. They see men as creeps and don't dress feminine. They dress and act like men.

Glad you found our forum, are you currently married to an American man? Do you plan on moving back to eastern Europe? Was America everything you thought it would be?

[Ghost]

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[GoingAwol]

Dear men of Happier Abroad,
I have been compelled to post here, I am not going to take up much of your time.

I just want to say how sorry I am that most western women have become, for a lack of a better word, trolls, ugly on the inside and outside. Reading Winstons posts about American women and the feelings being shared here, I am genuinley shocked and saddened, angry also, at the way things have become.

Treating a date like a job interview is a tacky and horrid thing to do, a man is worth so much, it does not matter what he does or does not have, a good heart is priceless in this world. Making someone jump through hoops to date you is not only disgusting, but is something only an entitled, self important "princess" would do, I am ashamed of women like that. Being materialistic, immature, egotistical and smug is nothing to be proud of, ever. All it means is that you are a horrible, soulless person. You men deserve so much better than that. Being obese and expecting people to be attracted to you is shameful, a woman has a duty to look good, be healthy and take care of herself - not just for men but for her own good too. It amazes me that to some women (it seems anyway) wearing a pretty dress, nice shoes and a bit of make up is "dressed up" - I do that to go down to my local shop! I cannot imagine what they would call my version of dressed up! I spend most of my time in dresses, skirts and girly clothes, how on earth someone could consider a hoodie and jeans as suitable for more than lounging around the house is beyond me.

I dont understand why a woman would want to be masculine and deny that she needs a man. I am proud to be female, I love being feminine and while I am ok on my own, having a man to care for and love gives me so much happiness. His happiness is my happiness. I love to cook, I like to keep a clean house and I like to make sure my man has everything he needs, that does not make me a slave or a doormat like some women seem to believe. It just means I am happy in my feminine role and I am proud of that. Men are equal, valuable and deserve to be loved and adored. When each gender comes together it is like Yin and Yang - whole and complete.

(I hope the next bit is not sexually explicit)
I highly dislike the attitude common in western society that a man has to "service" a woman in bed, make her or***m and act like a p**n star, all while forgetting his pleasure. A lot of women I know think that being a starfish is perfectly acceptable, to lie there and let the man do all the work - what a load of bull**** that is!!! I dont think enough people simply make love nowadays, they dont appreciate the simplicity and joy of it. Perhaps my European sensibilities shape this, I think when sex is nothing but swearing, roughness and domination all the time it is easy to bury how emotional, passionate and intimate sex can be. Am I off the mark here? I get the impression that American women are becoming masculine both outside and inside in the bedroom. I admit that I am a bit of a soft pansy.

Being banal and unintelligent, talking like children is downright repulsive, it seems like the average American female IQ is 60. Personally, I have never been able to connect or be friends with American or other Western women, I have previously never been able to understand why but I am beginning to understand.

I just want to say, it is no wonder you have been put off western women and are seeking better companionships abroad - the picture I am seeing is extremely repulsive, horrible and a downright shame. You all deserve partners who love you for you, dont treat you like walking ATM's and want you to perform like circus monkeys. Modern Feminism has a lot to answer for and be ashamed of, American and Western women should be disgusted with themselves.

May I pose a few questions to the men of this board?

How are the changes in the American woman affecting sex?
Are western women prudes generally?
What are the stories behind the worst women you have encountered?

I appreciate that as a woman I do not really have a place here and should the concensus be for me to not participate I will understand, but like you I do share the disillusionment with the Western world. I travel to Eastern Europe, Russia and beyond as much as I can and I am planning to get a one way ticket out, to never return to this society full of banal, materialistic crap where idiots are idolised and good people are ostracised.

Either way, I truly hope all of you get what you want in life and have every happiness. There are good women out there!
Love from a Lady from Europe.

Eurogirl,
It's nice to see that some women can see what we are talking about and agree with what we are saying. American/Western women truly do suck. However, I don't think they are inherently bad. I think the feminist culture makes them this way. Western culture's narrative is women=good and men=bad, end of discussion. When a woman cant find a man society tells her she is fine just the way she is and any man would be lucky to have her. But if a man is struggling to meet women society tells him he: is too picky, needs to get his shit together and get a better job, has bad social skills etc.etc. This creates a sense of entitlement in women and they won't settle for anything less than what they think they deserve. This is because society tells them to be this way! This is the exact opposite of what society tells men. We are told to strive to be the best we can be while accepting women who are flawed and unattractive. I'm only 24 years old and I have already given up on American women. Whenever I try to connect with them I feel like I'm doing all the work and they don't put in any effort to connect with me. Its very clear that they expect you to "wow" them or they will drop you in 10 seconds flat. I have been on dates with American women who looked like they had just rolled out of bed! Seriously, I went on a date with one girl who was wearing sweatpants and no makeup! Meanwhile I was wearing jeans and a nice button-up shirt. I was also freshly groomed and clean and was wearing some cologne to smell good. I always try to look good when I go out on dates! But the American women I have been out with haven't made the slightest effort to look good for me. It's bullshit! And I'm tired of people telling me that I'm the problem. American women are the problem! The Good Lord only knows how hard I have tried to connect with American women but they have never done anything for me. That's why I'm going overseas. I have been talking to Russian women online and they are much nicer and easier to deal with. American women can just take a hike off a short pier as far as I'm concerned.

[HappyinEurope]

Lady from Europe, when/if you're in Holland......coffee? Just kidding but on the contrary, you do have a place here just to verify to all those still in the States that women in Europe are different. (See my other posts)

How are the changes in the American woman affecting sex?
The relationship with my ex wife in the US sums it up nicely; I was telling my friends, as a joke, that I was in a same sex marriage......sex with my wife was always the same!

Are western women prudes generally?
American women are.....just don't mess with their hair during sex!

What are the stories behind the worst women you have encountered?
The worst one would be my ex that I escaped from two years ago.....long crazy story!




This should be a background tune for this site.....http://youtu.be/_FUo2oZsXbc

[jamesbond]

The picture sums up nicely the attitudes of American women vs. foreign women.

[Wolfeye]

HappyinEurope: Great picture! I notice that a lot of these women seem to think it's vigorous to be bitchy- like she's not a "cold fish" is she acts like a Jerry Springer episode. How are things in Europe? Hoping to move out before the year is over & am somewhat more aligned toward the Czech Republic or Poland than I was when we last spoke.

[Yohan]

May I pose a few questions to the men of this board?

How are the changes in the American woman affecting sex?
Are western women prudes generally?
What are the stories behind the worst women you have encountered?

This is an old thread, but anyway... why not to reply.

I never had any personal relationship with a Western woman, I am from Continental Europe, but I decided to start a new life with entire new people and so I moved over to Asia when I was still young.

I think, I did not miss much, with a divorce rate up to 68 percent in cities and up to 51 percent in rural areas in my native EU-country.

The worst women I have encountered in Europe were women like my mother, my half sisters, some female class mates, female co-workers etc.

A huge number of Western women, not only women from USA, are looking out merely for rich men because of their money, for thugs to get away from normal life into an exciting life-style with drugs and alcohol, most Western women are also into multiple boyfriends who are considered nothing but replaceable items.

Many of them are highly materialistic orientated and for sure most of them are not into a long term relationship - unfortunately this is legally supported, as divorce is almost always a lucrative business for lawyers and women.

My opinion about life with Western women in Western countries:
Generally bad. It's a no-win position for any man.

Possible workaround:
Either stay single and avoid any personal contact with any Western female - or move away and look out for a foreign wife, consider relocation.
At least this is what I did, worked out for me. I never came back to Europe since more than 30 years.