starchild5 wrote:publicduende wrote:No Greys dude. Jack Ma is just a frontman for the Chinese government funnelling trillions of yuans into their own version of the Internet, eCommerce, etc. An American buying BABA stocks is basically buying advanced drilling equipment to dig their own graves and bury away what's left of their own economy. Be my guest.
Dude common..I'm hardcore "conspiracy theorist"

....I know what you are saying already. If we want to stretch this game further....Even the Chinese government is controlled by a far higher force. Chinese companies will not be allowed to operate in America, if the PTB do not want it that way. Its not that Chinese government is the end game. they are puppets too.
Everything is controlled. We know that already. We can discuss the conspiracy aspects of it in other thread where we can even go to the AI angle. Chinese government and Jack Ma are working for the same force...how about that...The reason conveniently Hong Kong government did not allow Alibaba to list their company due to BOfD issues. Now after it got listed in NYSE they are changing the rules of the game.
I am, or better, used to be a lukewarm follower of conspiracy theories. There's an ocean worth of stuff as far wide as eye can stretch (and spare time permits), ready to dive into. Trouble is, with so many exotic islands of diverse and contrasting information and so many sirens luring you towards any conceivable conclusion, from total collapse to new age renaissance, it's very, very easy to lose the compass. Indeed, lose the very notion of needing one.
So according to Ben Fulford, for instance, there is not a single elite of power brokers but several, gathering around at least two distinct polar opposites. The one Asia-based Ben theorises is actually based in China (Triad?) and has recently been in open warfare with the Anglo-american one which agenda the recent US policy expresses all too well. Ben Fulford says the Asia-based elite does not want humanity to be decimated and enslaved, and that they are secretlty inflicting mortal blows to their rivals. So all good for BABA? Or Google? Some others researchers/journalists would add that even on top of the two polar opposite agendas there is a superior elite and power, which both have to ultimately follow. Then it all gets dense and supernatural from there.
Look, I am a believer that our presence here has been by design. Whether whoever made us used entirely their own (alien) DNA, or a mixture of their DNA and "local" genetic material (large apes, bears, etc.), the gifts of self-awareness and free will are something that distinguishes us. Whatever TPTB wants to play, it will ultimately always be
our choice between freedom and fear, radicalism and conformism. It is a choice that we make several times a day, indeed several times an hour, when we speak and listen, when we work and play, when we love or hate.
If you think in terms of what your free will will make out of whatever happens around you, whether it will impact you directly or indirectly, in the short or long term, then you will realise that there has never been anything, and never there will be, to prevent you from living a full and fulfilling life, the way you want it to be, so long respect and - when desired - love for your neighbour are the overarching principles.