Have you found nightclubs to be really negative places?

[kai8482]

tl;dr To each they're own method

[rudder]

PLEASE STOP WITH THE HYPE!

I don't notice much difference between the American pictures and the Colombian pictures. I see attention-whores in all the pictures.

[rudder]

Sorry Tre. I strongly disagree. Even if you asked them to take the same pose, the girls in Colombia would still be very different in terms of body language, vibe, attitude, etc. One's attitude shows on their face. Even dogs know this and can sense body language. Why can't some of you guys? lol. Could it be that dogs are smarter than some of you guys? lol

Maybe you aren't looking deeper here. Or maybe you just suck at reading people and picking up clues in pictures. Not all guys are deep. Most American and Oriental guys are not deep like me and my kind are.

Remember that the eyes are the window to the soul. If you look at my approachable faces gallery, you will see a very different and refreshing attitude on the face, eyes and body language. Come on now.

Btw, I don't see how you can say that Vegas is the easiest place in the US to get laid. The girls here have a definite bitch shield and don't make eye contact with strangers and are not even approachable. They are majorly stuck up to the Nth degree and are VERY UNFRIENDLY. VERY!

Most guys here do not like nightclubs, so only those that thrive in them have a chance at picking up women there. But day game here is definitely out of the question. The body language of women here is absolutely horrid.

So how can it be easy to get laid? I haven't met one guy here who dared to cold approach women. Can you outline the steps to getting laid easily and naturally here? lol

Yes. To answer your question, I believe this guy knows: http://www.goodlookingloser.com/categor ... ld-videos/

[steve55]

I am definitely a deep person. The cheap insults are kind of lame. I'm trying help you guys

Well, I hope my response to your post wasn't considered an insult.

But some seem more interested in bitching about things than solving a problem. If you keep doing the same things, you will end up being 75 years old and still bitching. Most of the time, success depends on YOU changing something that gives you better chances.

Agreed! Amen to that. Winston and I HAVE done something about it! So have many guys on here. Winston moved abroad, gets as many beautiful women as he wants and has never looked back. DarrenW , a member of this board, and MANY MANY other board members HAVE done something about it, and are now married to beautiful foreign women whom they brought here to the US. I myself have already put down a deposit on an apartment in Medellin and I know I can have as many dates with beautiful and educated women as I want once I arrive, (I actually shut down my online dating accounts simply because the response from beautiful women, many educated with degrees or masters degrees, was overwhelming). Since a month ago I've had to put that plan off as I have unexpectedly met a sweet cute 21 yr old girl who by the way, graduates college with a computer science degree soon, that I feel has a high chance of being my future wife. We'll see how it goes when I go to meet her this month. I'm 46, she is 21 and as sweet and innocent as they come! Could I do that in the USA? HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!! I haven't even had a date here in the US for almost 2 years, but that's because I CHOOSE not to date fatties and sweat pant queens. If I could get just one date with a HT /WT prop girl under 37 yrs old, I would be totally thrilled! But the only girls I can get dates with are old women in their 40's and tons of fatties.Pffttt! NO THANKS! Ill choose to stay alone and dateless if those are my options.

I don't understand why cold approaches work anywhere. People are the most dangerous animals on the planet. If someone I don't know approached me (man or woman) on the street, I'd definitely have my guard up. Usually, they are going to ask me for money, ask me to buy something from them or some other BS I don't want to deal with.

Tre, have you EVER, and I mean ever travelled outside the US as more than just a tourist??? What you are describing in your quote is the paranoid USA. And by your comments, I see you are part of that group think paranoiya. Geez man, do you fear every person who wants to say hi to you? It sounds like you are fearful and afraid if someone wants to simply say hi to you and strike up a conversation with you?? The girls you mention in vegas who get hounded by men are probably womenwho get lots of exposure to the public (performance shows), so yea, the crazies who do exist will notice them and follow them or stalk them. SO what. That doesn't mean most men are stalkers. Probably 1-2% are and those guys go for the most beautiful women who get public attention in the news or on their dance shows. Your example with some of the vegas show girls getting stalked doesn't prove much. Most women are not show girls in vegas.

Lets be clear, when we say "approach", we mean things like striking up a conversation in public. Maybe she is in line at the supermarket, maybe she is sitting at starbucks having a coffee and you walk over and say hi to her or sit down next to her and introduce yourself. Maybe she is at a bar or club and you walk up to her and say hi or introduce yourself. American women are like stuck up bitches when you try to just say hi to them at bars and clubs, and sometimes at public venues. Go to Asia, Latin America, Russia, Eastern Europe, and see how much easier it is to approach and meet women, especially the Philippines. In bars and clubs abroad, women are nice to you if you walk up to them and say hi. They don't think you have an agenda. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!

Again, it seems that some guys here just wanna complain instead of being proactive in finding a solution. There IS more than one solution to your problems with women...

GO Abroad! I know of no other solution, well, maybe you can go hang at small towns and country folk type places where women are kind and open. Maybe try church to. But I've tried church, Ive attended many mega churches and in all cases, in the 30's groups, nothing but fatties and women in their 40's.

[steve55]

Back on the subject of Las Vegas, Nightclubs and people being the most dangerous animals on earth:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... g/3142815/

The above happened this morning.

Also, I should add that my gf worked with a girl at a nightclub that ended up getting killed, cut up into pieces and put into several barrels of cement by a guy in Las Vegas. Shit like this happens everyday somewhere...why does it surprise guys that girls distrust them when they don't know them?

Yea, shit happens everywhere. So what? I guess then that no one should ever talk to anyone then right? They could be a stalker killer. Ya see, this example you give about the news headlines is a perfect example of why Americans are so freakin paranoid. Tre, look at it this way. There are millions of people in vegas right? (Im guessing, but if not millions, alot of people) So if an article comes out every now and then where someone gets shot or cut up , we start thinking the entire City is dangeorus and you need to watch out for people? That's what happens. Its like when people read news stories about plane crashes, they freak out and get a fear to fly. Yet, flying is statistically the SAFEST mode of tramsportation, but people are afriad to fly because they read news headlines. You need to think! Don't let a few headlines make you paranoid and fearful. What a way to live life? No one is suggesting to NOT BE CAREFUL, but that doesn't mean you cant be nice and polite when someone say hi or wants to strike up a conversation. This is where most American women fall short and most foreign women EXCEL! The point Tre is that when we say American women are unapproachable, we also mean they are RUDE when you try to meet them. I've had them ignore me when I said hello, I've had them just walk away, Ive had them turn away from me and laugh at me with their friend when I tried to talk to them, and I've seen them do this to many other guys too. These vegas women are the worst of all cities at being total cunts and bitches to nice guys who say hi to them and just want to strike up a little friendly conversation. I'm not saying all are that way, but it seems to me that if they are thin and good looking they are RUDE. Nothing more than RUDE!!


Let me counter with this, why do Russian girls ,who are from a much more dangerous environment , so friendly when you approach them? And they will talk to you as a stranger? Ask Winston, he was able to cold approach women all day long. Russia is more dangerous than the US but the women are approachable. How do you explain that Tre? Is your argument then that the USA is far more dangerous than all these other 3rd world countries where women are open, sweet, and approachable to strangers? Not to long ago, Colombia held the spot as being the most dangerous place on earth, having the most murders per capita, but from all the blogs Ive read, the women are still approachable and down to earth when you as a stranger approach them. They don't act rude and stuck up when you try to meet them at clubs and bars.

The way you describe Vegas women though, I want nothing to do living in a city where women are fearful and assume the worst in you when they meet you because they have been programmed by the news media how there are so many killers out there. What a horrible place to live. As a male, you are assumed dangerous until prove otherwise. Pffft. No thanks. Who wants to be around women who are that paranoid as Tre describes in Vegas?

[steve55]

. Shit like this happens everyday somewhere...why does it surprise guys that girls distrust them when they don't know them?

Being careful with new guys is fine. I have no prob with that. But hell, that don't mean you cant talk to me some, right? Does the girls really have to ignore me or refuse to at least talk in a little friendly conversation? In addition, that's only the half of it, they are RUDE too. They just blow you off and walk away or make up some lame ass excuse or many times its clear that she think she is too good for you.

[tre]

First off, congrats on being 46 and having success with 21 year old women. That is an inspiration...it really is. You didn't throw an insult, someone else did...no offense taken at all.

You make some good points and I think much of what is encountered in Vegas (and other cities in the USA) is unfortunate and unnecessary. I agree 100% that the US media, television, movies, etc make things worse in every single way possible for men. It's like they THRIVE on showing us how f***ed up people are....all over the world. That is the reason that people are the way they are here. I am not debating that this is OK or not, only that this IS the way it is here. The approaches you list will likely not work for 99% of men in the USA. It's unfortunate but true. Even at my most attractive and still young (when I was modeling in Vegas), I'd have likely been shot down the vast majority of the time in a cold approach. They may think I'm attractive, but they'd be suspicious about me approaching them...that something must be wrong with me.

When we speak of cold approaches in the USA, they don't work for women OR men. There are too many people asking for money, for favors, etc.. If someone I don't know were to walk up to me at a Starbucks to start a conversation, I'd immediately think to myself "what does he/she really want from me"? That would be going through my mind as I give them a fake smile and do my best to be polite. I'm not mean to people, but I'm not outgoing with those I don't know. Being rude is completely unnecessary though. HOWEVER, if some person that spoke broken English (not from Mexico, but from ANYWHERE else) approached me, I'd be curious. I'd likely engage with them out of curiosity. That is something to consider when we approach people in other countries. BTW, I like Mexicans just fine, but they are everywhere here so I would not be curious.

I wish we had some more people on this forum that are FROM these countries that we like to visit and live. I'd like to know what is going through the mind of a woman (or man) that gets approached by a foreigner. I'd take those opinions more seriously than from a US or UK Citizen that moves to a country and hasn't been there for very many years and who isn't fluent in the language or culture.

I had an apartment in Singapore for 8 months. However, I didn't get to stay there even half the time (disasterous financial scam that put me where I am today). That's not nearly long enough for me to integrate into the culture, but I soak things up like a sponge. I watched my friend cold approach with success and I was shocked...I really was. He did the same thing when we traveled over to Thailand. He is a "monger" so nothing to feel overly optimistic about, but still....successful approaches for an unattractive male. He is a confident, well-spoken Asian, so that may have helped him too...women weren't intimidated. I was with my GF so of course, I didn't attempt any approaches....lol.


Back on topic. Nightclubs are OK for getting laid (IF you are willing to do what is necessary to get that lay). They are terrible for finding love though. It is MUCH easier to get laid in the Nightclub than cold approaching (in the USA) in most places simply because the girls are relaxed...and drunk. If I were to ever become single again, I'd have to whip myself into shape, purchase some nice clothes and hit the clubs. That would be my most effective way to get women...at least for a short time. At least in a nightclub I get to see them as they are NOW. I had terrible experiences with meeting women online as the photos were old (or of someone else)....it was traumatic...lol.

Photographs don't mean much. Yes, girls in the USA are more feminist than other places. However, pulling photographs from nightclubs in Vegas is NOT a good representative of the general population in the USA. One can not know WHO those girls in the pictures are or their history. Nightclubs PAY models and strippers to hang out inside the clubs to add to the sexy vibe. Some of the photographs are of cocktail waitresses that get their photo taken every night. They would have the same sort of facial expression or look in every photo you see. Comparing a stripper or industry girl to the general population is like comparing a bar girl to the general population in Asia. I could pull a video of drunk girls doing crazy things in Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, etc. They can show many of the same drunk faces and slutty activity on video and in photographs. That doesn't mean that those photographs represent the total population of women in those countries. That's all I'm saying....

[steve55]

First off, congrats on being 46 and having success with 21 year old women. That is an inspiration...it really is. You didn't throw an insult, someone else did...no offense taken at all.

You make some good points and I think much of what is encountered in Vegas (and other cities in the USA) is unfortunate and unnecessary. I agree 100% that the US media, television, movies, etc make things worse in every single way possible for men. It's like they THRIVE on showing us how f***ed up people are....all over the world. That is the reason that people are the way they are here. I am not debating that this is OK or not, only that this IS the way it is here. The approaches you list will likely not work for 99% of men in the USA. It's unfortunate but true. Even at my most attractive and still young (when I was modeling in Vegas), I'd have likely been shot down the vast majority of the time in a cold approach. They may think I'm attractive, but they'd be suspicious about me approaching them...that something must be wrong with me.

When we speak of cold approaches in the USA, they don't work for women OR men. There are too many people asking for money, for favors, etc.. If someone I don't know were to walk up to me at a Starbucks to start a conversation, I'd immediately think to myself "what does he/she really want from me"? That would be going through my mind as I give them a fake smile and do my best to be polite. I'm not mean to people, but I'm not outgoing with those I don't know. Being rude is completely unnecessary though. HOWEVER, if some person that spoke broken English (not from Mexico, but from ANYWHERE else) approached me, I'd be curious. I'd likely engage with them out of curiosity. That is something to consider when we approach people in other countries. BTW, I like Mexicans just fine, but they are everywhere here so I would not be curious.

I wish we had some more people on this forum that are FROM these countries that we like to visit and live. I'd like to know what is going through the mind of a woman (or man) that gets approached by a foreigner. I'd take those opinions more seriously than from a US or UK Citizen that moves to a country and hasn't been there for very many years and who isn't fluent in the language or culture.

I had an apartment in Singapore for 8 months. However, I didn't get to stay there even half the time (disasterous financial scam that put me where I am today). That's not nearly long enough for me to integrate into the culture, but I soak things up like a sponge. I watched my friend cold approach with success and I was shocked...I really was. He did the same thing when we traveled over to Thailand. He is a "monger" so nothing to feel overly optimistic about, but still....successful approaches for an unattractive male. He is a confident, well-spoken Asian, so that may have helped him too...women weren't intimidated. I was with my GF so of course, I didn't attempt any approaches....lol.


Back on topic. Nightclubs are OK for getting laid (IF you are willing to do what is necessary to get that lay). They are terrible for finding love though. It is MUCH easier to get laid in the Nightclub than cold approaching (in the USA) in most places simply because the girls are relaxed...and drunk. If I were to ever become single again, I'd have to whip myself into shape, purchase some nice clothes and hit the clubs. That would be my most effective way to get women...at least for a short time. At least in a nightclub I get to see them as they are NOW. I had terrible experiences with meeting women online as the photos were old (or of someone else)....it was traumatic...lol.

Photographs don't mean much. Yes, girls in the USA are more feminist than other places. However, pulling photographs from nightclubs in Vegas is NOT a good representative of the general population in the USA. One can not know WHO those girls in the pictures are or their history. Nightclubs PAY models and strippers to hang out inside the clubs to add to the sexy vibe. Some of the photographs are of cocktail waitresses that get their photo taken every night. They would have the same sort of facial expression or look in every photo you see. Comparing a stripper or industry girl to the general population is like comparing a bar girl to the general population in Asia. I could pull a video of drunk girls doing crazy things in Thailand, South Korea, Taiwan, etc. They can show many of the same drunk faces and slutty activity on video and in photographs. That doesn't mean that those photographs represent the total population of women in those countries. That's all I'm saying....

Well, four things.

1) while it's true that us Americans are foreigners in these countries and there is a curiosity factor, Winston and I can both tell you that we've observed these foreign girls in public and at bars and clubs and we have also seen that they are receptive and approachable with men of their own countries too. I would suspect that any foreign man would agree with this.

2) Most of those girls I show on the American side are not paid models. Yes, about 10% of them work for the bar as waitresses or dancers, but didn't you notice that about 10% of the Colombian girls I show are also paid to be at the event or bar? See how a few of the colombian girls are dressed and it's obvious they are paid to be there such as a sponsor of a drink or to promote the bar or event. But notice that even though some are paid to be there , they still don't have any narcissistic or stuck up looks. They are still sweet and approachable looking where as the paid vegas girls are not at all .

3) Thanks for the congrats, but actually, it's not hard to do. Any joe Scmoe can do that. See this part of my site that proves it.....

http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/a-c ... d-men.html

What may be harder to do is finding a young girl who is educated and desires this kind of age spread.

About 30% of Filipinas 18 to 24 yrs old have a minimum age of their desired match set at 40 yrs old. Same for Latinas and russian girls but maybe about 20% for those.

4)Tre read this excerpt from my website. It perfectly describes what you just admitted to behaving like in the us towards people who approach you in regards to suspecting people having alterior motives or hidden agendas. Not your fault , you're just being the average paranoid American . I hope you can get out and travel and mingle amongst foreigners to see how this paranoia of strangers is completely absent abroad.

Students and Backpackers in Reverse Culture Shock

Here are some revealing quotes from college students returning from their time abroad, who are in a state of reverse culture shock. They are compiled in a handbook to help their parents deal with this situation, which you can view at the link below. http://www.worldlearning.org/SSA_Other_ ... ndbook.pdf


1)"Talking to girls is even worse- the first thought is always what does this guy want? Is he trying to sleep with me? An innocent conversation at a bar is never innocent even when it is. Yet on the travel trail, I have and see tons of innocent conversations between the sexes that revolve anything and everything. Striking up a conversation with a girl isn‘t about a hidden agenda, it‘s simply about making new friends. Coming back home into this mindset has been difficult. Your used to the openness of travelers and the conversations with perfect strangers. It‘s friendly environment. But back home these situations aren‘t easily replicated and people always thinks there is a hidden agenda"

2) This Backpacker who runs a travel blog wrote this post about his reverse culture shock in coming back home and finding that people there are no longer open and sociable as they were when he was traveling:

"One of my favorite parts of traveling is meeting so many people. Meeting them in hostels, on tours, on buses, sitting at cafes, or at bars. On the road, it‘s easy to make new friends. So easy that sometimes you feel like you have friend overload. On the road, you find very little pretense. No one has their guard up. No one questions your motives or wonder what you are after. Saying hello is all you need. In the world of travel, everyone is open to meeting new people. A simple hello and before you know it, you are traveling with people for months. Yet back home, I‘m finding it‘s not like that. Out at the bars or on the street, saying hell or engaging strangers in conversation is usually met with a stare. Why is this person talking to me? What do they want? People put up barriers. No one is as open as they are on the road and there‘s always a supposed motive."

[Winston]

PLEASE STOP WITH THE HYPE!

I don't notice much difference between the American pictures and the Colombian pictures. I see attention-whores in all the pictures.

The difference is that the Colombian girl faces do NOT have the look of hate and paranoia that the American girls do. There is sweetness, appreciation and respect for men, femininity, etc. They do not look as spoiled or narcissistic either.

Dude, you obviously have not spent much time overseas. If you spent a few months in SE Asia and got used to sweet approachable women everyday around you, you'd be able to spot them and their attitude immediately.

It's kind of like how white guys cannot tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Korean faces, but if they live in Asia for a long time and got used to seeing the patterns between them, they would be able to tell after a while.

How can something that is 100 percent obvious to me, Steve Neese, and Steve R be way over your head? That's crazy.

Again, this is NOT about the pose. Anyone can pose. This is about the ATTITUDE on their faces.

See what I mean in my approachable faces gallery:
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page ... hableFaces

Are those the kind of faces you see in America? HELL NO! What do you see in common in all those faces above? Do they look relaxed? Do they look hateful and paranoid of men? No way!

Why do I feel like I'm teaching 1st grade here? Most of this stuff should be obvious. Even dogs can detect body language. Why can't you? Are dogs smarter than you guys? lol (no offense)

[rudder]

PLEASE STOP WITH THE HYPE!

I don't notice much difference between the American pictures and the Colombian pictures. I see attention-whores in all the pictures.

The difference is that the Colombian girl faces do NOT have the look of hate and paranoia that the American girls do. There is sweetness, appreciation and respect for men, femininity, etc. They do not look as spoiled or narcissistic either.

Dude, you obviously have not spent much time overseas. If you spent a few months in SE Asia and got used to sweet approachable women everyday around you, you'd be able to spot them and their attitude immediately.

It's kind of like how white guys cannot tell the difference between Chinese, Japanese and Korean faces, but if they live in Asia for a long time and got used to seeing the patterns between them, they would be able to tell after a while.

How can something that is 100 percent obvious to me, Steve Neese, and Steve R be way over your head? That's crazy.

Again, this is NOT about the pose. Anyone can pose. This is about the ATTITUDE on their faces.

See what I mean in my approachable faces gallery:
http://www.happierabroad.com/ebook/Page ... hableFaces

Are those the kind of faces you see in America? HELL NO! What do you see in common in all those faces above? Do they look relaxed? Do they look hateful and paranoid of men? No way!

Why do I feel like I'm teaching 1st grade here? Most of this stuff should be obvious. Even dogs can detect body language. Why can't you? Are dogs smarter than you guys? lol (no offense)

I need at least a couple seconds in person interacting with a women to even begin to pick up her vibe. In your defense though, I am familiar with the Ameriskank bitch snarl that you're talking about. However, I see many sweet-looking American women in those photos.

[rudder]

eh, I take that back. There are only a couple. Those photos are pretty telling.

By the way, my other post that you quoted was a joke. While the Colombian women may be sweeter, they are still probably very much flawed. I think most women that go out to clubs in order to be attention-whores are not very good women.

[tre]

While it's true that us Americans are foreigners in these countries and there is a curiosity factor, Winston and I can both tell you that we've observed these foreign girls in public and at bars and clubs and we have also seen that they are receptive and approachable with men of their own countries too. I would suspect that any foreign man would agree with this.

So you are fluent in all of the languages of the countries you spend any time in? Without knowing their language you can't possibly know what they REALLY think about you or anyone else they are talking to. You can't know their true intentions either. Facial expressions MIGHT tell you something, but not everything.

Most of those girls I show on the American side are not paid models. Yes, about 10% of them work for the bar as waitresses or dancers, but didn't you notice that about 10% of the Colombian girls I show are also paid to be at the event or bar? See how a few of the colombian girls are dressed and it's obvious they are paid to be there such as a sponsor of a drink or to promote the bar or event. But notice that even though some are paid to be there , they still don't have any narcissistic or stuck up looks. They are still sweet and approachable looking where as the paid vegas girls are not at all.

And how do you know that 90% of the USA photos are not Industry girls (cocktail waitresses, bartenders, models, strippers, etc.)? That stuck up, tough look is an Industry look. You'll find that Industry GUYS have similar looks as well. They own the nightlife and this is their playground...that is probably why this look comes out. It's kind of funny as that look very rarely shows their true personality. I would say that AT LEAST 50% of the photos are of girls that are Industry girls in either Las Vegas, California or other states with large cities. You picked those photos because of their facial expressions and so you picked the Industry girls out. A few of those girls have "stripper" all over their face....sorry. "Models" in Las Vegas don't have to be hot or skinny btw. They just have to be OK looking, have fake tits and an OK body. They just look like regular girls there to have a good time. They are dressed in their own clothes and partying like they are just any tourist. Clubs often can't get the good 2 to 1 ratio without these "atmosphere models". The group of girls that I am certain are NOT Industry girls are the drunk girls dancing stupid on a pedestal (one of them in a sky blue dress). Industry girls don't do that....cause it looks pathetic and stupid...lol. Industry girls are extremely image conscious and no, this is most often not a good thing. I'm not going to comment on the Colombian girls as I have not been there. I HAVE been in the Las Vegas industry (for 8 years) so I KNOW Las Vegas industry.

Tre read this excerpt from my website. It perfectly describes what you just admitted to behaving like in the us towards people who approach you in regards to suspecting people having alterior motives or hidden agendas. Not your fault , you're just being the average paranoid American . I hope you can get out and travel and mingle amongst foreigners to see how this paranoia of strangers is completely absent abroad.

Yeah, I admitted it and I've developed it more and more after learning how people ARE in America. I've got plenty of reasons to be that way. I've had guys approach me and try to be buddy, buddy with me just so that they could try to get my girlfriends number behind my back. A lot of guys in the USA are worse than women in that they backstab other guys to get their women. Bros before hos? Not if they don't know you. You make claims about people based on how YOU are, but don't think that many aren't anything like you. I won't claim to know everything about a country or it's people until I've 1) Been there at least 2 years and 2) I am fluent in their language. If you don't know their language, they could smiling at you and saying something negative for all you know. I know, I know...you are an expert in facial expressions of every person you come into contact with...right?

I understand what you are trying to say and agree with a lot of it. But, I think it's in the best interest of everyone (including you) that I correct you on the photograph part based in Las Vegas. Industry women in the large cities of the USA (especially Vegas) are a whole other animal and are worse than most women in the USA. They have more of the traits you hate and are more obvious with them as well. I've been to nightclubs in other countries and its very hard to compare anyplace with the nightclubs in Las Vegas. Bargirls are much more open and friendly than a Vegas Industry girls of ANY kind...unless you are an attractive MILLIONAIRE. Many strippers in the USA are also prostitutes....for the right price. Some Industry girls date only millionaires or celebs while having play on the side with Industry guys. It's a cesspool....plain and simple. I played around in that cesspool for several years and it was life-draining to say the least....

[steve55]

So you are fluent in all of the languages of the countries you spend any time in?

Philippines - don't need to be, most speak English. Latin America- yes I am relatively fluent, enough to have conversations.


This doesn't need to be complicated. Just talk to any Spanish guy you know or any filipino guy and ask him if he sees any differences in the approachability of women in his country vs. his experience here in the USA. See this part of my site that addresses exactly what we are talking about. Let me know what you think after reading it: http://www.globaldatingsolution.com/don ... or-it.html

And how do you know that 90% of the USA photos are not Industry girls (cocktail waitresses, bartenders, models, strippers, etc.)? I would say that AT LEAST 50% of the photos are of girls that are Industry girls in either Las Vegas, California or other states with large cities. You picked those photos because of their facial expressions and so you picked the Industry girls out. A few of those girls have "stripper" all over their face....sorry.

Dude, its 100% obvious! Shit, they can't all be industry girls. lol. ANy board member here can look at these photos and will not say they are mostly industry girls, maybe about 10-15% of them. And by the way, can you PROVE most of these photos are industry girls?? Yes, you said you recognize a few of them , and I already knew I have a few industry girls in there. But most? Not a chance man.

I'm not going to comment on the Colombian girls as I have not been there. I HAVE been in the Las Vegas industry (for 8 years) so I KNOW Las Vegas industry.

And I know the Dallas club and bar scene as I have lived here all my life. The girls in clubs here in Dallas pull the same narcissistic looks, facial expressions and lesbian acts and THEY ARNT INDUSTRY GIRLS here in Dallas. Come on man, now you're really reaching for straws in defending these bitches. The industry claim is BS, nothing but BS. You simply don't know. DO you know every girl in these photos?? DO you? If not, you are guessing man. Look, every big city has a lot of girls like these and there is no "industry" to them. The idea that girls who act like this in every city of the US are only "industry girls is BS , pure BS.

I know, I know...you are an expert in facial expressions of every person you come into contact with...right?

Expert no, but I've been to Latin America 5 times and the Philippines 7 times! So yes, based on experience I already know that as a general rule, their facial expressions DO go with their real life personas, in most cases at least. And about the idea that in real life these girls are so nice blah blah blah, maybe with some, but in my personal opinion, if the girls are capable of acting like this at the clubs and bars, I don't think they are that far separated from these attitudes in real life either. If they can act these ways, its because its within their souls. Colombian girls cant because its not within their souls. In the end, we can agree to disagree on that. Any girls who is capable of acting like these girls I don't buy they are 100% sweet damsels in real life. They may seem sweet but most of these types are not going to have as good values an be as good of wives as the ones who don't ever act these ways. Anyways, that is your opinion, and that's ok. But it's not my opinion based on my experience here with these very same type of girls in Dallas whom I have experience with. We can agree to disagree.

[tre]

I'm not defending Vegas Industry girls...not at all. I'm not defending Vegas Industry at all....I hate that cesspool. One of the girls is named Caz and that particular photo is many years old. I wouldn't know most of their names, only the ones I dated or hung out with personally. Hell, I don't know the names of many that I hooked up with...lol. I was young once...what can I say. I had to get the stupid recklessness out of my system. You said that 10% of the women in the photos were Industry and I say it's higher. They are BOTH guesses man, but I know more about Las Vegas Nightlife than you do. You don't respect my years of experience IN Las Vegas Nightlife just like some don't respect AIB's experience in Thailand. So be it, think what you want...no skin off my back.

Your goal is to post the worst examples of women in the USA so why not...even if it's an exaggeration in regard to MOST women in the USA? I am not protecting American women and perhaps it would be better that no one give them a chance...at least for awhile. Maybe it's better that we see absolutely no good in them and automatically assume that they are ALL bad. Maybe they will straighten up (I doubt it, but one can always hope...lol). However, no use exaggerating about foreign women being angelic either....this doesn't help anyone.

I've been to the Philippines for one month and I've been with a girl from the Philippines for over 4 years. I've regularly hung out with her family and Filipino friends as Filipinos are ALL about family, even though they are f***ed up to each other at times. Her father abandoned her mother, herself and sister in the Philippines when she was around 3 years old. She and her sister came here to the USA about 5-6 years ago together. Her sister was a slut in the Philippines and is a slut here in the USA. She's absolutely terrible and I dislike her (she knows it and dislikes me as well). She's been married and divorced since I've known her. Her cousin (mid-twenties) has been married 3 times already (currently divorced). I could go on and on about her very large family and friends, inside and outside of the Philippines. My GF was the best one in that she doesn't sleep around...never has. Her opinion about Filipino women in the Philippines is that the majority are sluts and willing to sleep with anyone for $$ or for the chance at a better life. There are some exceptions, obviously. To think that most Filipino women don't have ulterior motives is a big mistake. I'm sorry, but if you haven't LIVED in the Philippines for YEARS, integrated into their community and don't know Tagalog (or whatever the dialect is in the region you are in), you can't REALLY know their character. You can make an educated guess, but a guess it is. Yes, many speak English, but their primary language (in the Philippines) is a language you can't understand....they'll take advantage of that. A smile or some other facial expression can mean something different than what you think it means. I call BS on being able to read their intentions through their face and eyes. We will see how far that gets you in time. Maybe you'll get lucky.....maybe you won't.

I see that you are fluent in the language where you will be relocating (Medellin). I don't know that area at all, but knowing the language will undoubtedly improve your chances. Just don't go marrying the girl without spending a good deal of IN PERSON time with her for 6 months or more. Women can put on a real show for quite some time. But maybe you think women in Columbia are perfect women who would NEVER be one bit dishonest?

Most American women are no angels, but you all know that. What many here don't seem to realize is that women abroad are also no angels. There is no magical place with perfect women who will love you for who you are no matter how unattractive, poor and unmotivated you are. I think I'm going to be seeing plenty of guys here eventually get taken by the women they marry and bring back to the states. After spending some time in the states, these women will realize that their men really aren't that special. They will compare them to what they see all around them. It's then that these men will have a nightmare on their hands. Then what, they gonna hate everything with a vagina and STILL place no blame on themselves? When will some of you look inward instead of outward all the time? One has got to be willing to do BOTH to progress! How about you admit that there are good and bad women in every country and that generalizations are never wise. How about you admit that there are things that YOU can do to qualify yourself for something better than what you have now. If one doesn't want to change themselves at all, they'd better marry the girl and STAY abroad...never bring her back.

I want to move abroad, but NOT because I think the women are angels elsewhere...lol. I already have a Filipina GF (no angel, but better than most for sure). If there was a white, American woman that was mostly the same in every way (or even slightly better), I'd still take my Filipina GF. I'm just more attracted to Filipinas than white women, I'm not with her because I couldn't get a white woman in the USA. I want to move abroad to integrate into another culture, learn language and experience a life unlike the disaster here in the USA. There is more than one reason to be happier abroad....

[Rayn]

Clubs are only exciting to go to if you enter with the one and only intent to have fun with your friends.

IMHO clubs weren't meant to be places to look for sex (and uh, relationships? what the f**k - really?) - but it was because of the retardation of Anglo culture turning people into unapproachable, unsociable stuckups that people see clubs as the place they supposedly are now.