Obama wins re-election. What does this mean for the country?

[ChosenTraveler]

The responses of my pale skinned friends in this thread is quite salty( pun intended). Though there is no difference in the two parties and the political process is illusory, it's interesting that white men's analysis of two nights ago is so overshadowed by their bigotry that they can't decipher it properly.

They're not angry that Mitt Romney lost, what they're angry about is that "we have to look at this nigger on tv for another four years". Please, do us all a favor and don't take your white supremacist sentiments overseas.

Don't expect me to stay in a country where I am constantly forced to be surrounded by people with a limited perspective such as yourself, who constantly remind me of how much of a "white supremacist" you think I am.

Truth is, I am completely aware that our political process here is illusory, as you put it. I am disappointed that the same guy was given another term though, since his first term obviously sucked a** for Americans. I'm sure that there are plenty of Black Americans who would make both you and I proud to have them as our president, but you can bet that we'll never see them given the opportunity to run in such a rigged system.

Also, why in the hell would you want to prevent anyone from having a better life by suggesting that we stay in a country where we are obviously miserable and hated (especially when this hate is coming from women of our own race)? So we can continue to be at each others throats here? I refuse to live in a country where I am forced to endure the constant insults of the bitter minority class and the jewish advertising firms. I refuse to pay $0.01 in taxes to subsidize douche bags that continue to procreate with skank women. Why should I be forced to pay taxes in order to clothe, feed, and school people that will only grow up to be the next generation that hates my guts for being a white man? Sorry, but that is NOT going to happen!

Though I get the context of your post( and I hope to have intellectual discourse with you),wherein there are definitely eligible Black men that can become President. I wrote in one, Dr. Umar Johnson- look him up. However, this doesn't change the fact that white men live, and have lived in fantasy for centuries.

They see their precious " white male privilege" fading( which it's not, because the system is still theirs) and the supremacist mentality resurges. I've witnessed this from my years in the corporate world, in academic fields and in other professional settings where I have the exclusivity and white men are onlookers.

White men appreciate your place so long as you know your place, but soon as you display dominance in anything, they attempt to discredit, demean and deter your credentials.

[zboy1]

White men appreciate your place so long as you know your place, but soon as you display dominance in anything, they attempt to discredit, demean and deter your credentials.

That is true for the most part and it's because they're the majority in most Western countries. Now, this would also apply to countries like Japan and other homogenous countries where non-Whites are the majority. The majority always looks down on the minority, no matter what the race of the people are involved.

[zboy1]

Obama's re-election has consequences:

Small Business owner--3 month shut-down of his Chemical company announced right after Obama re-elected.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fygMs4zL ... el&list=UL[/youtube]

[Jester]

It doesn't surprise me in the least that nobody has refuted my points, and just accused my stances of being "liberal mind reading". I'll say it once more, white men wouldn't scream all this "patriotism" if Bush or any other dumb white man that they worship was still in office.

Now you're not just mind-reading, you're convicting people of what they would do if something hypothetical happened.

Oh - and name one member on HA who "worships" George Bush.

White men are at best reactionary nationalists. They only take extreme platforms when they perceive their status on the food chain threatened. They wouldn't be boycotting their own women or "hating" America if Black men still sat in the back of the bus, ate in the back of the restaurants and couldn't cohabitate with white women.

Hmmm are you boycotting BW? Why are you boycotting BW? If YOU like YOUR "own women", why are you on HA?

People that have a proud history don't act this way, which is why I'm led to believe that white men don't have as proud a heritage that they boast about.

Ahh. Now I get it. You're JEALOUS.

[ChosenTraveler]

This is a classic tactic of the American white male: The confusion strategy, meaning that subject A starts a conversation with subject B. Subject B easily refutes/deconstructs subject A's thesis, then subject A can nothing but toss emotional rhetoric( i.e. Jester;s "are you boycotting your own women?" statement), for he is depleted of answers.

I have no issue with people disagreeing with President Obama. I'm not a supporter nor surrogate of his and believe that he's done Black people more harm than good and will do more over the next four years, but I see the opposition/fringe denigrations that are lodged his way as white people reverting to survivalist mode.

In America, this is the atmosphere more and more and will only become worse in the coming years. White men especially, are reacting to what they feel is the world slipping from their dominant claws.

[Jester]

This is a classic tactic of the American white male: The confusion strategy, meaning that subject A starts a conversation with subject B. Subject B easily refutes/deconstructs subject A's thesis, then subject A can nothing but toss emotional rhetoric( i.e. Jester;s "are you boycotting your own women?" statement), for he is depleted of answers.

I have no issue with people disagreeing with President Obama. I'm not a supporter nor surrogate of his and believe that he's done Black people more harm than good and will do more over the next four years, but I see the opposition/fringe denigrations that are lodged his way as white people reverting to survivalist mode.

In America, this is the atmosphere more and more and will only become worse in the coming years. White men especially, are reacting to what they feel is the world slipping from their dominant claws.

I am too confused to deconstruct (or even to fringe-denigrate) the thesis of your emotional rhetoric.

[zboy1]

This is a classic tactic of the American white male: The confusion strategy, meaning that subject A starts a conversation with subject B. Subject B easily refutes/deconstructs subject A's thesis, then subject A can nothing but toss emotional rhetoric( i.e. Jester;s "are you boycotting your own women?" statement), for he is depleted of answers.

I have no issue with people disagreeing with President Obama. I'm not a supporter nor surrogate of his and believe that he's done Black people more harm than good and will do more over the next four years, but I see the opposition/fringe denigrations that are lodged his way as white people reverting to survivalist mode.

In America, this is the atmosphere more and more and will only become worse in the coming years. White men especially, are reacting to what they feel is the world slipping from their dominant claws.

Well to be fair to you, ChosenTraveler, I guess you were right in racism being a big part of the reason why Whites were so upset with the election result:


Denise Helms, California Woman, Fired After Calling Obama N-Word, Hoping He's Assassinated
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/0 ... 04184.html

Racist Teens Forced to Answer for Tweets About the ‘Nigger’ President
http://jezebel.com/5958993/racist-teens ... -president

Ole Miss students hold candlelight march to protest racially-fueled anti-Obama demonstration
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2BmK5Tt5v

Study: Obama’s reelection drives racist tweet increase from south
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/09/s ... rom-south/

RACISM MAKES A COMEBACK AFTER OBAMA RE-ELECTION!
http://www.sinuousmag.com/2012/11/racis ... -election/

These idiots make the anti-Obama people (like me) look bad as a result. Don't these idiots realize their actions only further strengthen the Democratic Party and their stranglehold on the minority base in this country, smh.

[Teal Lantern]

Well to be fair to you, ChosenTraveler, I guess you were right in racism being a big part of the reason why Whites were so upset with the election result:


Denise Helms, California Woman, Fired After Calling Obama N-Word, Hoping He's Assassinated
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/0 ... 04184.html

Racist Teens Forced to Answer for Tweets About the ‘Nigger’ President
http://jezebel.com/5958993/racist-teens ... -president

Ole Miss students hold candlelight march to protest racially-fueled anti-Obama demonstration
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... z2BmK5Tt5v

Study: Obama’s reelection drives racist tweet increase from south
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/09/s ... rom-south/

RACISM MAKES A COMEBACK AFTER OBAMA RE-ELECTION!
http://www.sinuousmag.com/2012/11/racis ... -election/

These idiots make the anti-Obama people (like me) look bad as a result. Don't these idiots realize their actions only further strengthen the Democratic Party and their stranglehold on the minority base in this country, smh.

No they do not. They have no more introspection than blacks who participate in flash-mob riots and muggings on Monday and then turn around and cry about racism on Tuesday. The younger generation just doesn't seem to do action --> consequences.

Those of us who happen to share the ethnicity (in either case), but not the (lack of) values-system will, IMO, be best served by getting out of the way of the $#!^-storm that is going to be unleashed when the supply chain breaks.

[jtest28]

I'm with Dissolutioned American. Any of these guys are obviously being told what to do. Ive seen too many politicians who probably couldn't manage a high school and yet a country as large and complex as America stands??? BTW, everyone I know voted for Romney, yet Obama wins? Those voting machines ARE made in Israel for a reason... And no, I personally wouldn't mind a black president if he really was black, that is. Obama is actually half Jewish and like a quarter black. Not that he would necessarily take a stand though. The last President I saw take a stand was JFK. He gave a speech about a minority ruling class in America that was based on religion and ten days later they made sure he was killed graphically with lots of cameras around to let others politicians know "this is what happens to you when you go against the grain"

[Winston]

Here is what my expat friend, the one who inspired me to start this site, said about the Obama win:


"(My turn to write something for you to read... I am so depressed at seeing another 4 years of Obama, that I had to write something. True, Romney would probably have been just as bad, but I wanted CHANGE. Different shit on a different day. You know, that thing Obama promised us. The best change he could have given us would have been to lose yesterday.)

America is on a one-way street to the bottom.

The majority of its population has an awareness than does not extend beyond the edge of their KFC bucket, smartphone screen or video console. Curiosity motivates people to learn, and most Americans are no longer curious about anything aside from the latest celebrity gossip. Even those who feel the need to learn rarely have the necessary attention span.

The majority of people (I won't say families because family is on the way out too) are now taking from the government (i.e. from those who still want to work.) In all future elections, this majority will outnumber the workers who want to keep some of their money.

And with whites soon to be a minority, it's game over. As Drudge writes, there are not enough "Angry white men". This is not a racist thing -- it's about there not being enough people around anymore with the motivation, intelligence, education and willpower to turn things around. Look at what has happened in Africa after the whites were kicked out.

American society is slowly settling at the bottom of the barrel as a useless, nondescript layer of unproductiveness. It can't depend on a handful of major exporting companies such as Apple and Microsoft for revenue, who will in any case eventually be bested by Asia.

I see an outcome of defaults by a government that can no longer pay its debts, hyperinflation of a currency that is being printed to death, and all out civil war when welfare recipients are no longer able to depend on others' money because there simply isn't any.

My advice: Get out now. Move to a country that does not have a welfare system. A country in which it's basically "work, have friends, or starve." People in such a country still know what work is. They know how to survive."

[Jester]

Here is what my expat friend, the one who inspired me to start this site, said about the Obama win:


"(My turn to write something for you to read... I am so depressed at seeing another 4 years of Obama, that I had to write something. True, Romney would probably have been just as bad, but I wanted CHANGE. Different shit on a different day. You know, that thing Obama promised us. The best change he could have given us would have been to lose yesterday.)

America is on a one-way street to the bottom.

The majority of its population has an awareness than does not extend beyond the edge of their KFC bucket, smartphone screen or video console. Curiosity motivates people to learn, and most Americans are no longer curious about anything aside from the latest celebrity gossip. Even those who feel the need to learn rarely have the necessary attention span.

The majority of people (I won't say families because family is on the way out too) are now taking from the government (i.e. from those who still want to work.) In all future elections, this majority will outnumber the workers who want to keep some of their money.

And with whites soon to be a minority, it's game over. As Drudge writes, there are not enough "Angry white men". This is not a racist thing -- it's about there not being enough people around anymore with the motivation, intelligence, education and willpower to turn things around. Look at what has happened in Africa after the whites were kicked out.

American society is slowly settling at the bottom of the barrel as a useless, nondescript layer of unproductiveness. It can't depend on a handful of major exporting companies such as Apple and Microsoft for revenue, who will in any case eventually be bested by Asia.

I see an outcome of defaults by a government that can no longer pay its debts, hyperinflation of a currency that is being printed to death, and all out civil war when welfare recipients are no longer able to depend on others' money because there simply isn't any.

My advice: Get out now. Move to a country that does not have a welfare system. A country in which it's basically "work, have friends, or starve." People in such a country still know what work is. They know how to survive."

+10

[zboy1]

Me not liking Obama has nothing to do with race. Just take a look at what Obama's re-election means for jobs:

HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE ANNOUNCED CLOSINGS OR LAYOFFS SINCE OBAMA WON A SECOND TERM?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-man ... cond-term/

[lone_yakuza]

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[Jester]

My advice: Get out now. Move to a country that does not have a welfare system. A country in which it's basically "work, have friends, or starve." People in such a country still know what work is. They know how to survive.

Given that corporations own/are stealing most stuff and they don't require many workers due to automation, wouldn't such a country effectively be a death camp? Or is your friend advocating going somewhere that still practices peasant type agriculture?

The bigger the percent of the economic activity that comes from family farms, and from family businesses (of any type or size), the less control there will be by corporate MBA's and Leftist commissars.