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It's just your standard NYT editorial hit piece disguised as unbiased reporting. There was no problem with Trump's tax returns, which were procured illegally. He is on video many times playing the media's little game of "condemning white supremacism." He's right about children being all but completely unaffected by "the virus." He's right about climate change. I forget the other blows. None of them landed. Nothing appeared to be a deliberate lie. If you don't think different approached to interpreting the same data, particularly economic data, hasn't been a feature of political debates since they began, then you haven't been watching them.


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@gsjackson
I should have just posted this from the start:

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Veracity of Statements by Donald Trump

Donald Trump has made many false or misleading statements, including thousands during his presidency. Commentators and fact-checkers have described this as "unprecedented" in American politics, and the consistency of these falsehoods has become a distinctive part of both his business and political identity. Trump is known to have made controversial statements and subsequently denied having done so, and by June 2019, many news organizations had started describing some of his falsehoods as lies. The Washington Post said his frequent repetition of false claims amounts to a campaign based on disinformation. According to writer and journalist Nancy LeTourneau, the debasing of veracity is a tactic. By September 3, 2020, The Washington Post's Fact Checker database had counted 22,510 false or misleading statements.
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I'm guessing we both have better things to do than go through the 22,510 false or misleading statements, and it's off-topic besides so I won't try to persuade you further. If you want to think that Trump doesn't compulsively lie, be my guest.
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flowerthief00 wrote:
December 10th, 2020, 8:50 pm
@gsjackson
I should have just posted this from the start:

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Veracity of Statements by Donald Trump

Donald Trump has made many false or misleading statements, including thousands during his presidency. Commentators and fact-checkers have described this as "unprecedented" in American politics, and the consistency of these falsehoods has become a distinctive part of both his business and political identity. Trump is known to have made controversial statements and subsequently denied having done so, and by June 2019, many news organizations had started describing some of his falsehoods as lies. The Washington Post said his frequent repetition of false claims amounts to a campaign based on disinformation. According to writer and journalist Nancy LeTourneau, the debasing of veracity is a tactic. By September 3, 2020, The Washington Post's Fact Checker database had counted 22,510 false or misleading statements.
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I'm guessing we both have better things to do than go through the 22,510 false or misleading statements, and it's off-topic besides so I won't try to persuade you further. If you want to think that Trump doesn't compulsively lie, be my guest.
Agree with the sentiment of the last paragraph, and will just point out that it's far, far more useful in understanding what is going on in the U.S. today to know that the Washington Post and the other "many news organizations" compulsively lie. Well, actually compulsive isn't the right word. Their lying is deliberate, calculated, agenda-driven, dictated by corporate ownership, and 100 percent of the time when it comes to Trump.

And parenthetically, when you give thought to who might be benefitting from the scamdemic -- e,g., big Pharma, who stand to make a killing (perhaps literally) when the vaccines are rolled out, big tech, which now has a captive populace planted full-time in front of the screens, and the financial sector, which received the bulk of the "stimulus" packages -- don't forget the owner of the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos. How many tens of billions has his net worth increased in 2020, as Amazon's competitors in the small business sector are destroyed by government mandate?
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gsjackson wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:46 pm
Cornfed wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:25 pm
Winston wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:22 pm
Cornfed wrote:
December 8th, 2020, 6:09 pm
The State of Texas has filed directly to SCOTUS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/us/p ... sults.html
Why? Texas is already in Trump's pocket. It's a red state.
That's the point. They are arguing that because other states allowed fraud the Texas votes were cancelled out. BTW, other red states are joining.
Correct, and it's a quick solution to jurisdictional questions. Suits between states go directly to SCOTUS.

As for which of the five conservative justices might defect, let's see. The three appointed by Trump were all involved in deciding the 2000 election in favor of the Republican candidate. Kavanaugh was absolutely savaged by Democrat lies during his confirmation hearings. Gorsuch's mother was run out of Washington by the Deep State. Barrett owes her career as a federal judge to Trump.

I'm guessing Thomas would like absolutely nothing better than to block the path to the presidency of the man he was addressing when speaking of being the victim of a "high-tech lynching." Alito has long taken personal offense at the high-handed assaults on the dignity of the judiciary of Obama appointees.

So you're big on predictions, Guhji. Tell us which one will betray his/her country?
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fschmidt wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 4:41 pm
America is officially dead.

Time to leave.
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You guys are just delusional. He lost by 3 million votes last time and was lucky to be appointed, then lost by 7 million this time. That was running against two weak candidates. It's impossible to fake 7 million votes. All of the polls predicted he would lose and that it wouldn't be close, all of them. Over 50 of his court cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence, many by republican judges, some appointed by Don the con himself. Even his own lackey attorney general says there is no evidence. Now the conservative dominated Supreme Court throws out his case. Yet you continue to believe every word of a pathological lying con artist. You are being played like a violin and making fools of yourselves publicly.
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Mr Natural wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 5:27 pm
You guys are just delusional. He lost by 3 million votes last time and was lucky to be appointed, then lost by 7 million this time. That was running against two weak candidates. It's impossible to fake 7 million votes. All of the polls predicted he would lose and that it wouldn't be close, all of them. Over 50 of his court cases have been thrown out for lack of evidence, many by republican judges, some appointed by Don the con himself. Even his own lackey attorney general says there is no evidence. Now the conservative dominated Supreme Court throws out his case. Yet you continue to believe every word of a pathological lying con artist. You are being played like a violin and making fools of yourselves publicly.
So that is the perspective of the usual low information TV viewer. Thanks for that.
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Yahoo News
Last-ditch effort to throw election to Trump quashed by Supreme Court

I told you so
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Guhji wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 5:57 pm
Yahoo News
Last-ditch effort to throw election to Trump quashed by Supreme Court

I told you so
Yeah, I was first to say that the military solution would be needed.
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Should be no big surprise that SCOTUS would swat away this nonsense of states trying to overturn the results of other states. Anecdote: I have a relative who is a lawyer whose team was going to be involved in defending Georgia's election results from this crazy play by Texas. Fortunately for them it was all over before it had begun.
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Guhji wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 5:57 pm
Yahoo News
Last-ditch effort to throw election to Trump quashed by Supreme Court

I told you so
No, it's not the last-ditch effort. The fraud cases in five or six states are still winding their way toward SCOTUS. In the Pennsylvania case the court denied emergency injunctive relief, not cert. It may still be heard, along with the others. The Texas suit always had a standing problem in saying that states are covered by the Equal Protection Clause, and that was the grounds it was thrown out on.

But Corny may be right -- a military resolution to the situation may be in the offing.
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flowerthief00 wrote:
December 11th, 2020, 7:33 pm
Should be no big surprise that SCOTUS would swat away this nonsense of states trying to overturn the results of other states. Anecdote: I have a relative who is a lawyer whose team was going to be involved in defending Georgia's election results from this crazy play by Texas. Fortunately for them it was all over before it had begun.
I would certainly be interested in knowing the relative's arguments. The substance of the Texas (supported by 21 other states) suit -- that four states went outside procedures specified by the U.S. Constitution in selecting electors -- seems indefensible. You do understand that the suit was dismissed on a technicality of standing -- that states are not covered by the Equal Protection Clause? And you do understand that no court to date has looked at the actual evidence of fraud?
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