What is the appeal of loud music, darkness, & bright lights in nightclubs?

[Rock]

Ok let me be honest about something that will make me look like an uncool loser.

Clubs and discos would be a lot more fun if the hot sexy girls there would flirt or engage me like they do in the movies. But if they just ignore me, and I'm just sitting there with loud music in the background, cigarette smoke in the air around me, and bright lights, it's simply a boring experience. Since I'm not big on dancing, what's in it for me? Even worse, the fact that the hot girl there ignore you and give you the cold shoulder, makes it an ego-deflating depressing experience. So when I go home afterward, I feel shit about myself. That definitely DISCOURAGES me from going again. So what's the point? Every time, I end up deflated and depressed afterward cause I was tempted with all these hot girls around me, yet I couldn't do anything about it, even though I wanted to badly, which creates extreme frustration and let down. Then when I get home, I regret not trying harder to come onto the girls there, and keep beating my head over it.

In the final analysis, it's an overall NEGATIVE experience with high stimulation ending in disappointment. That's why I have a negative attitude toward the whole experience, besides the annoying deafening loud music, bright lights, smoke and darkness.

I know this is not a cool thing to say or admit, and no one else in my position would openly admit the above, but hey, the truth is the truth. So what is wrong with being honest? I hate a world where you can't be honest.

My favorite quote from George Orwell:

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Since meeting my new tenant recently, I've gone out with him to several clubs. Here are some random thoughts on the experiences:

1. They are for extroverts, not introverts

2. A lot of bad energy present, especially as night progresses and people get drunker. Girls go to be seen, show-off, and get attention. Many guys are there to be seen and be part of 'the scene'. Most of the foreigners who aren't with dates are clearly on the prowl. People can get mean as they get drunker and sometimes it degenerates into fights right outside.

3. I've never done very well inside clubs. Because my particular methods of meeting people require a lot of talking and its very hard to hear and be heard inside. I actually do better right outside trying to meet people taking a break from inside. Meeting girls inside works better for people who use dance moves and or body language as their primary tools of approach.

4. If your goal is just to pick-up a girl but you don't want or don't feel able to pull-off a 1 night stand, don't spend more than 60 to 90 minutes in any one club and don't get drunk. Just go in, scout out the venue for what you like,meet and talk to a few targets, get the numbers you can, and then leave for another club or go home. Don't loose your health and mind spending all your week-end nights in clubs and going home at sunset seriously drunk.

[Billy]

Yeah life is a bitch

[Tadow]

I don't like the nightclub setting or the nightclub-in-a-training-bra setting (ie. bar), but I do like lounges. The lights are dimmer, the music is more tasteful and not as loud, the floor isn't as sticky, and there's a lot random less screaming. I've been having a nice intimate conversation and then a fuckhead bartender or DJ turns the music all the way up. I hate that. Sometimes I wonder if they're trying to cover up a murder in progress. That's when it's time to go.

I'm an introvert, but I still like to go out. I just don't like the attack on my senses. If everything is toned down a bit I can deal with it. If the music is really good and I'm tipsy enough in good company I just don't give a damn anymore. I'll dance and I'll sang (not sing... SANG!) It just has to be done right. My problem is that the insides of these places are a reflection of the people who show up. They play shitty music because people have shitty taste in music.

[Billy]

tadow, what is your prefered playlist?

[djfourmoney]

tadow, what is your prefered playlist?

Stuff he can't dance too, two left feet...

Here we go again, complaining just for the sake of complaining is not what this forum was designed for. Loud Nightclubs are just an extension of a flawed culture? I guess I would agree, but another social environment might be suitable for those that don't like Nightclubs.

I don't go clubbing for economic reasons. But you don't see me going Waaa, I'm too poor to go to a club. I say the larger problem of Western Women looking to land the big one is a much bigger problem.

[Introvert]

Continuing with the extrovert/introvert theme, loud music, darkness and flashing bright lights definitely fall into the realm of the extrovert. Instead of sensory deprivation, it’s environmental sensory stimulation. Bah, I’m not going to write it all out again. You guys have already hit the nail on the head. However, I will say that it does depend on what kind of club/dancing you are talking about. Winston, you would love salsa dance clubs, especially the ones outside of the US. Beautiful women dressed to the nines will approach YOU to dance. You don’t just have to stand there and look at them in frustration. They will dance with you and have fun doing so. You don’t have to be drunk, either. The same can be said for bachata, merengue and other latin dance clubs.

Any club that features social dance is really good for introverts and excellent for extroverts. Extroverts get to show off and be seen. The reason these clubs are so good for introverts is because they usually provide classes a few hours before the club officially opens allowing one to acclimatize to the physical locale before the crowds arrive. Another reason is that many of the classes are full of friendly women who are open to socializing with someone new. You will most likely be outnumbered. Lastly, a lot of the awkwardness is alleviated because you are all learning something new together. Focus on clubs that actually ENCOURAGE guys and girls to dance TOGETHER. In all but the latin world, couples dancing/partner dancing is a lost art.

[Tadow]

I like soul, funk, samba, 90's hiphop/r&b, jazz, and house. If I can't hear the person next to me it's outta hand. My exception is a mean funk band. And that's true about the Latin clubs. That music has a purpose and the ladies tend to be friendlier (or friendly at all compared to the typical attention whore). For dancing, usually there aren't enough guys so whatever guys are in there will get their pick if they're decent. Some chick I went to school with was into some underground flamenco shit.

[Winston]

I actually had fun last night at a dance club, which I usually don't. Maybe it's because I was with good company this time. Here are photos from last night.

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[Winston]

Question: Why do hot girls of the barbie doll types always flock to nightclubs? Why do they like them so much? Is there a reason?

Also, why are the hot barbie doll types always extroverts and never introverts?

[Banano]

When you get all the attention from everybody all the time naturally you would become extrovert and be aware of your value.
Since the day they were born these barbie dolls were treated differently than other not so pretty girls.

Everybody wants them in some way

[jamesbond]

When you get all the attention from everybody all the time naturally you would become extrovert and be aware of your value.
Since the day they were born these barbie dolls were treated differently than other not so pretty girls.

Everybody wants them in some way

Good point, women who are hot KNOW they are hot and know that their value in the eyes of men is high. Therefore, they only date and marry top shelf men. Guys who make an average amount of money don't stand a snowballs chance in hell with these women!

These hot girls were cheerleaders in high school and they were in sororities in college. They only dated jocks in high school and college. Once they got out of school, they only dated rich guys.

Once these women got sick of their husbands, they divorced them, made out like a bandit financially and either got remarried at some point or stayed single and raised their children on their own (with child support and maybe alimony from their ex-husband).

These super hot women have inflated egos and are arrogant and rude. Now I know how the term "anglo-bitch" came into being, it describes these women perfectly!

[Billy]

Tadow I like many of your favourite music too.

James and Banano yes I thinks so too. Many would be more extrovert when there would be more approval from the outside.

[Winston]

Why do hot girls like to flock to nightclubs? Is there a logical reason for that? How can they all have the same taste in "fun"?

[Falcon]

Why do hot girls like to flock to nightclubs? Is there a logical reason for that? How can they all have the same taste in "fun"?

It's pretty obvious that they flock to nightclubs for attention. Many are very stuck-up.

That's why I do not go clubbing and do not even want to talk to women in these types of venues. Meet them in ordinary street settings or in villages.

[Winston]

Have you all noticed that lower IQ people tend to have more fun in clubs than higher IQ people? Why is that?

Have you noticed that lower IQ people also seem to fit in better in large groups than higher IQ people do. Why is that?

Have you noticed that higher IQ people can stand longer periods of being alone than lower IQ people can? Why is that?

Have you noticed that lower IQ people also have a higher tolerance for noise than higher IQ people do, as German philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer mentioned in his essay "On Noise". Why is that?

http://www.noisehelp.com/schopenhauer-quotes.html

Quotes about Noise by Arthur Schopenhauer

Quotes are from the essay "On Noise" except where noted.
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I have long held the opinion that the amount of noise that anyone can bear undisturbed stands in inverse proportion to his mental capacity and may therefore be regarded as a pretty fair measure of it.

~ The World as Will and Representation (1819)

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The superabundant display of vitality, which takes the form of knocking, hammering, and tumbling things about, has proved a daily torment to me all my life long.

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Noise is a torture to intellectual people.

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Noise is the most impertinent of all forms of interruption. It is not only an interruption, but also a disruption of thought.

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Noisy interruption is a hindrance to concentration. That is why distinguished minds have always shown such an extreme dislike to disturbance in any form, as something that breaks in upon and distracts their thoughts. Above all have they been averse to that violent interruption that comes from noise.

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Occasionally it happens that some slight but constant noise continues to bother and distract me for a time before I become distinctly conscious of it. All I feel is a steady increase in the labor of thinking — just as though I were trying to walk with a weight on my foot.

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The general toleration of unnecessary noise — the slamming of doors, for instance, a very unmannerly and ill-bred thing — is direct evidence that the prevailing habit of mind is dullness and lack of thought.

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