What does one thing have to do with another? If Walmart rakes in billions in profits, that doesn't make it any less stealing to steal from them. And Walmart is owned by shareholders. There are people who work and have 401Ks or other retirement plans who get a tiny sliver of Walmart, and when millions of people like yourself steal from their business, they may lose money they would have otherwise gotten. That includes retirees.Pixel--Dude wrote: ↑January 15th, 2024, 9:09 pmWell kudos to you for managing to scrape by on a meagre living. Do you think that's any way to live? Scraping by and barely being able to eat or pay your bills when these big corporations like Walmart are raking in billions in profit?
God has taken good care of me. I didn't starve and I had a good life, even when I was poor. I was poor living across from the beach at one point. I could even see a sliver of the ocean from my window, in the cheapest apartment we could find for our family size.
None of that justifies stealing. It's wrong to steal from the rich. It's wrong to steal from the poor, but more cruel.While we're talking about profit. You blame people stealing bits here and there from supermarkets for rising costs but if that is the case then how are these same corporations making so much profit and more and more every single year whilst people like us are struggling to pay rent and eat? You need to take the blinkers off, mate.
Well, @MrMan... That isn't a very Christian attitude now, is it? Where is your sense of charity and good will towards others?[/quote]You can ask them to set up an area like that, and pay for the food yourself.
Why would a sense of charity make me want to force some other person or entity to give up their property, instead of me giving my own. @kangarunner 's response didn't make much sense either. A 'Christian thing to do' is to feed the poor, not take other people's property to do so. It doesn't have to cost me anything to steal someone else's bread to give to another.
If any man will not work, neither should he eat is from St. Paul in the Bible. Paul also said that he left the elders of the church an example of working with his own hands to support the weak. There are people who aren't able to work and support themselves. There are also people who are diligent people who just haven't found a job. Not all work is in 'a job' that pays. If someone is out of work, he can volunteer to do various things or work on trying to start a business that might eventually support himself and his family. I figure if a man doesn't deserve to eat, that's between him and God. I haven't been out giving food to the homeless in a while, but I don't interview them to see if any of them refuse to work.I thought as a Christian you would be all for giving away food to those who need it the most. But in one thread you even said that people who don't work don't even deserve to eat.
Says the thief.Hahaha! seriously?! This is coming from someone who believes we need the Bible to serve as a compass when it comes to morality?! Maybe this says more about Christians who need the Bible to stop them committing agregious actions out of fear of the consequences.
Your neighbors may own stock in Walmart. And if Walmart mades 20% last year and makes 10% profit this year, the value of the stock could go _down_ and your little old lady retiree neighbor could be out money if she had to sell stock or not get a dividend that year. (I don't know whether Walmart pays dividends or under what circumstances. That's up to management for each company.)I don't need the Bible or the law to prevent me committing transgressions against others. I don't steal from friends or neighbours.
Maybe you should watch a video about how corporations work. They have shareholders. They don't just own themselves.I don't give a shit about supermarkets who make billions in profit by artificially raising their prices to make more and more profit for greedy CEOs under some bullshit reason like people stealing bits here and there or inflation.
I don't know if they are 'artificially raising their prices.' That probably happens in some cases. In the US, during Covid, the government invented more money and doled it out when fewer people were working. Our flimsy fiat currency is supposed to be backed up by GDP. Fewer people working and making stuff means our money is worth less, and they were doling more out (digitally), so a little while later, inflation was sure to hit, which it did, and we are still feeling the effects. In the US, the Dollar Tree used to sell everything for a dollar. Inflation went up pretty quick. Instead of filling all of their stores with even cheaper junk from China, now just about everything there is $1.25. Did they artificially raise their prices? Probably not. They probably couldn't afford to buy the same junk and sell it for $1.00, so they had to sell it for $1.25.
I used to manage a group home. Large grocery store chains donated lots of food to the food bank right before it expired. We'd buy food for 16 cents a pound, even the meat. I suspect the ministries and charities that fed the homeless shopped at the same food bank. I don't know about all the stores, but at least back then, there were grocery store chains giving food away.Besides, these same supermarkets throw away tons and tons of food every month because they are past their shelf life and they put padlocks on their dumpsters because they would literally prefer homeless and poor to starve to death than let them take their products without paying for them!
A lot of food stays good past the expiration date, but I suspect if grocery stores are locking up dumpsters, they might be concerned of getting sued for eating spoiled food out of the dumpster-- that and making an awful mess. Around here, a lock on a dumpster might keep a racoon out. Those critters could make a big mess.
None of your arguments here make it any less stealing to steal from the grocery stores. In that line of work, they will have waste and spoilage. People do too. In the US, maybe a third of food has to be thrown away. People buy a lot of food, put it in the refrigerator, and don't eat up their leftovers. Restaurants are afraid people will get sick. Health departments want food below 40 or 45 or over so many degrees, maybe 140 F. Giving old food away is a legal liability.
If you steal food from supermarkets, it adds to their costs and they raise their prices more for the honest poor who do not steal from the store.
Do you mean the little old lady widow living off the stock her husband left her in his retirement account?So yeah, f**k these corporate assholes!