Why do Anglo women like BDSM so much?

[Outcast9428]

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Sounds like Sharia Law 2.0 is gonna be great. If I can make a feature request can we have the Sex Police? A Sex Police which can beat down the doors of private homes and taze people while in the act would be terrific.

@Outcast9428

In modern society it IS a felony to administer poison that can kill. Seldom is it so clear-cut tho, and there is a lot more gray out there than there is black & white. A lot of behavior that can cause varying degrees of both harm and pleasure.

We might as well be killing people with a lot of the shit we are pushing. People who are unmarried for life have double the chance of dying from cardiovascular problems as married people do, they are 2-3x more likely to commit suicide or die of a drug overdose, and more likely to be involved in violent crime. Basically, singledom does not benefit society at all... All it does is make people either self-destructive or destructive to the people around them.

And yes, BDSM is part of the issue because it is spreading mental illness and brainwashing men and women into masochism.

[HouseMD]

@HouseMD

If consenting to violence is okay then why don't we let people duel each other to the death anymore? How about letting drunk idiots slug it out? This is basically the same logic as that Chicago prosecutor made for not arresting anybody involved in a gang battle that happened because they were all consenting participants. When morality becomes consent based rather then based on objective well being, you can justify doing anything as long as you manipulate them into saying yes first. This is what violent porn has done to women. Manipulate them into saying yes to being abused by perverting their desires. I do not believe that you personally have manipulated them, I actually think you are a victim of a society that has essentially manipulated everyone into degeneracy.

@flowerthief00

Moral authoritarianism is good. Being moral or not moral should not be a choice. You shouldn't have a choice as to whether you harm the people around you or not. If your actions are harmful then they should be punished. And like @OutcastedPhilosopher said, our whole modern day society is ultimately the consequence of giving people too many choices in life.

I don't think all porn should be banned, but the violent and fetish based porn? Absolutely, and impose harsh penalties on anybody producing or distributing that shit.

Imagine if you gave somebody ten different drinks, told them to choose one drink out of the ten. 5 of those drinks will poison them and kill them, 4 of those drinks are tasty but only on a superficial level, one drink out of the ten is not only tasty but gives you loads of vitamins that make you feel better throughout the entire day.

Modern liberalism would basically say that all of these drinks are equally valuable, that we have no right to stop that person from drinking the poisonous drinks, and perhaps even more insidiously, that we can't even encourage them to choose the drink filled with vitamins and instead we have to present all 10 options as if they are equally valid.

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Yes, I will never date a girl who has tattoos or piercings.

People are allowed to engage in consensual violence. Martial arts, boxing, football, etc. If the goal of it is not death, it is fine. Engaging in violence with *the intent to kill* is not legal because of obvious reasons, don't be stupid

Except that the things you mentioned rarely actually cause pain due to things like boxing gloves or shoulders pads which blunt the impact. The BDSM shit on the other hand, is literally normalizing the sadistic enjoyment of other people's pain.

Boxing and MMA hurt like hell, dude. Choking doesn't hurt when it's done in the manner we're discussing, it just kind of makes your vision fade and you feel like you're about to pass out

[HouseMD]

@HouseMD

If consenting to violence is okay then why don't we let people duel each other to the death anymore? How about letting drunk idiots slug it out? This is basically the same logic as that Chicago prosecutor made for not arresting anybody involved in a gang battle that happened because they were all consenting participants. When morality becomes consent based rather then based on objective well being, you can justify doing anything as long as you manipulate them into saying yes first. This is what violent porn has done to women. Manipulate them into saying yes to being abused by perverting their desires. I do not believe that you personally have manipulated them, I actually think you are a victim of a society that has essentially manipulated everyone into degeneracy.

@flowerthief00

Moral authoritarianism is good. Being moral or not moral should not be a choice. You shouldn't have a choice as to whether you harm the people around you or not. If your actions are harmful then they should be punished. And like @OutcastedPhilosopher said, our whole modern day society is ultimately the consequence of giving people too many choices in life.

I don't think all porn should be banned, but the violent and fetish based porn? Absolutely, and impose harsh penalties on anybody producing or distributing that shit.

Imagine if you gave somebody ten different drinks, told them to choose one drink out of the ten. 5 of those drinks will poison them and kill them, 4 of those drinks are tasty but only on a superficial level, one drink out of the ten is not only tasty but gives you loads of vitamins that make you feel better throughout the entire day.

Modern liberalism would basically say that all of these drinks are equally valuable, that we have no right to stop that person from drinking the poisonous drinks, and perhaps even more insidiously, that we can't even encourage them to choose the drink filled with vitamins and instead we have to present all 10 options as if they are equally valid.

@OutcastedPhilosopher

Yes, I will never date a girl who has tattoos or piercings.

People are allowed to engage in consensual violence. Martial arts, boxing, football, etc. If the goal of it is not death, it is fine. Engaging in violence with *the intent to kill* is not legal because of obvious reasons, don't be stupid

Except that the things you mentioned rarely actually cause pain due to things like boxing gloves or shoulders pads which blunt the impact. The BDSM shit on the other hand, is literally normalizing the sadistic enjoyment of other people's pain.

Boxing and MMA hurt like hell, dude. Choking doesn't hurt when it's done in the manner we're discussing, it just kind of makes your vision fade and you feel like you're about to pass out

[Outcast9428]

@HouseMD

Feeling like you're about to pass out is one of the worst feelings imaginable. Its on par with nausea.

At least boxers are not twisting what should be an act of love into an act of violence.

[MrMan]

Hey man, they enjoy it, who am I to judge. I'm not denying someone a good orgasm just because it would look scary to an observer. And it isn't like you're strangling the life out of them, it's gentle pressure to the carotids bilaterally for a few seconds, nothing crazy

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

There are less risky techniques than choking.

And you thought it was dangerous not to wear a mask a few months ago?

It is somewhat dangerous for a layperson but I get explicit video consent first and I'm a doctor who knows the anatomy quite well. I'm too gentle, if anything, precisely because I don't want to do damage

There are less dangerous... and less weird... ways to bring a woman to an extreme orgasm so intense she doesn't feel like she can take any more... without choking.

[Cornfed]

Feeling like you're about to pass out is one of the worst feelings imaginable.

Why say silly things?

[Outcast9428]

Men are the leaders of women, as her partner, you should be teaching her self-respect rather then abandoning your duty and saying its not your place to judge or whatever. That is simply laziness and lack of courage.

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

There are less risky techniques than choking.

And you thought it was dangerous not to wear a mask a few months ago?

It is somewhat dangerous for a layperson but I get explicit video consent first and I'm a doctor who knows the anatomy quite well. I'm too gentle, if anything, precisely because I don't want to do damage

There are less dangerous... and less weird... ways to bring a woman to an extreme orgasm so intense she doesn't feel like she can take any more... without choking.

Holy crap, hello based department !

@Cornfed

Why do you feel comfortable claiming that choking girls and cheating on your wife is a traditional value and not absolutely embarrassed with yourself for attempting to pass off such a blatant lie? You honestly think any parent in a traditional society would want their daughter to marry you if they saw you saying that garbage?

Your role, as the girls' husband, is to be a caretaker. Not a dictator. If I was in charge of a pet adoption agency I would never let somebody adopt a pet from my shelter if they said shit like "its because we are their masters that sometimes you need to choke the dog." Traditional relationships are supposed to create a deeper love bond between the man and the woman that cannot be reached through the feminist lens of equality and liberal values. This is a bond that creates 100% trust lasting for a lifetime. I have seen it first hand with my own parents who have the most stable marriage of anybody I've ever known and I am determined to replicate that bond with a girl in my own life. You can't be trusted with this responsibility though because you fundamentally don't understand what the real objective of traditional values is.

[MrMan]

It makes for objectively better orgasms. There's no two ways about it, either you want her to get off hard or you don't. Women inherently desire domination, and it isn't abusive if it is consensual and requested.

There are less risky techniques than choking.

And you thought it was dangerous not to wear a mask a few months ago?

It is somewhat dangerous for a layperson but I get explicit video consent first and I'm a doctor who knows the anatomy quite well. I'm too gentle, if anything, precisely because I don't want to do damage

There are less dangerous... and less weird... ways to bring a woman to an extreme orgasm so intense she doesn't feel like she can take any more... without choking.

Holy crap, hello based department !

@Cornfed

Why do you feel comfortable claiming that choking girls and cheating on your wife is a traditional value and not absolutely embarrassed with yourself for attempting to pass off such a blatant lie? You honestly think any parent in a traditional society would want their daughter to marry you if they saw you saying that garbage?

Your role, as the girls' husband, is to be a caretaker. Not a dictator. If I was in charge of a pet adoption agency I would never let somebody adopt a pet from my shelter if they said shit like "its because we are their masters that sometimes you need to choke the dog." Traditional relationships are supposed to create a deeper love bond between the man and the woman that cannot be reached through the feminist lens of equality and liberal values. This is a bond that creates 100% trust lasting for a lifetime. I have seen it first hand with my own parents who have the most stable marriage of anybody I've ever known and I am determined to replicate that bond with a girl in my own life. You can't be trusted with this responsibility though because you fundamentally don't understand what the real objective of traditional values is.

Who are you talking to? I was posting against choking women. Are resident medical doctor, ironically, was was in favor of it. If you are talking to Cornfed, why did you post in response to this? I'm confused by the post.

[WilliamSmith]

There are less dangerous... and less weird... ways to bring a woman to an extreme orgasm so intense she doesn't feel like she can take any more... without choking.

Holy crap, hello based department !

+1
A common problem is that too many traditionalists ignore this, and will repeat some counterproductive nonsense meme like "Men want sex, but women want security," which doesn't explain stuff like why women's bodice-ripper romance novels at one point accounted for more than half of the total books sold in the US market. Learning to give women hours of intense body-shaking orgasms, on the other hand, is a sure win for traditionalists, IMO.
Also, the more that's the norm from traditionalist alpha type men who know how to "lead the dance" (so to speak), the more popular they'll be with the women, and the less inclination there would be for lost souls to end up going down the drain by getting into degeneracy like bdsm and fetishism, or "experimentation" with gender fluidity, bestiality and worse.

[WilliamSmith]

Who are you talking to? I was posting against choking women. Are resident medical doctor, ironically, was was in favor of it. If you are talking to Cornfed, why did you post in response to this? I'm confused by the post.

@MrMan
Pretty sure Outcast9428 was giving you a thumbs up and agreeing with you for pointing out that there's better ways to give women orgasms than choking or other bdsm perversion, but then he went on to address Cornfed only from that point onward in the same post.

[Outcast9428]

@MrMan Yeah the first part of my post was simply giving you a thumbs up. The long paragraphs are me criticizing cornfed. I only mentioned cornfed because I originally only intended to reply to you but then saw cornfed’s response and added a response onto my last post rather then making another post.

It’s like @WilliamSmith mentioned. I’m glad to see people finding ways to please their wife and in doing so prevent them from falling into degeneracy like so many people today have.

My apologies for any confusion.

[shawnberwick]

Members who have travelled a lot... In your experience do women in general like rough sex, or is it largely an Anglo phenomenon?

[ArchibaultNew]

@Outcast9428

I agree with you.

The main problem I see is that Anglo's practice female worship. So if a woman wants BSDM the Anglo-Men will come out and say, "It's legimiate" while if some women dislike "prostitution" then Anglo-Men will come out and say, "It's evil and should be banned"

Anglo-Men are unlike Spanish, French men or men from other cultures prioritize whatever the women want and enforce it on everyone else. While other cultures more easily shame their women when they get out of hand or want to practice perverse or degenerate behavior. Why is it that Anglo's hate men who want women to wear high heels, yet the say you are a loser if you don't get tatoos since women like Tattoos. It is a weird culture and different from many around the world.

[ArchibaultNew]

Members who have travelled a lot... In your experience do women in general like rough sex, or is it largely an Anglo phenomenon?

So far from Asians, Latinas in the USA i heard they don't like it. Also I heard people who are more religious don't like it either.

[MrMan]

@Outcast9428

I agree with you.

The main problem I see is that Anglo's practice female worship. So if a woman wants BSDM the Anglo-Men will come out and say, "It's legimiate" while if some women dislike "prostitution" then Anglo-Men will come out and say, "It's evil and should be banned"

I think you are cherry picking your data. Some Anglo women are into BDSM and others aren't. Some Anglo women get paid as prostitutes, some do prostitution for free, and some are opposed to prostitution.

I think prostitution should be illegal. As far as BDSM goes, I think adultery, fornication, same-sex sex, and sex with animals should be illegal. As far as BDSM goes, if someone is causing someone else serious bodily harm, the state can get involved. Otherwise, I don't need to know much of what goes on in married couple's bedrooms.