The Downfall of Roosh V (Daryush Valizadeh)

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[Johnny1975]

The weird thing is that Return of Kings does have good articles sometimes. (Emphasis on the sometimes. Lots of posers and circle jerkers write posts on there too.) He'll have articles defending a traditional way of life then on the other hand put up articles talking game and f***ing sluts. I think the truth is clear: he does whatever gets hits or appeals to his audience. No concretes values or principles. If he got paid enough to blog about how great feminism is, he'd do that.

But feminism is great*

(*This post is brought to you by Coca Cola).

[abcdavid01]

The weird thing is that Return of Kings does have good articles sometimes. (Emphasis on the sometimes. Lots of posers and circle jerkers write posts on there too.) He'll have articles defending a traditional way of life then on the other hand put up articles talking game and f***ing sluts. I think the truth is clear: he does whatever gets hits or appeals to his audience. No concretes values or principles. If he got paid enough to blog about how great feminism is, he'd do that.

I think you're missing why he writes like that though. Roosh is someone who would prefer a traditional way of life, but recognizes reality. He writes about sleeping with sluts because most women in the West aren't good enough anyway. Besides, game is useful for relationships too. It's about female psychology. The core principles of game are just confidence and conversation skills. That's necessary for a good relationship even when dating non-sluts.

But roosh is older now, so he's less interested in just sleeping around. Most of his posts aren't even about game anymore, but society and the new world order.

If game isn't right, then what is? The feminist whore mainstream media? Game just reveals the truth about female psychology. How you use that information is up to you. It can be used for sleeping around with sluts or it can be used to have better relationships.

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[Shemp]

If RooshV wanted a traditional life he would have gotten it. Not that hard for an average looking American like him with above average intelligence and way above average ambition and willingness to work hard and move overseas if necessary. He could easily have emulated MarcosZeitola, for example. He could even have gotten a traditional life in the United States, PROVIDED he was content to marry an average looking woman and then fulfill the duties of a traditional husband.

No, what RooshV wanted was access to the beautiful blond-haired, blue-eyed elite American females. And not access in the sense of traditional wife either. He wanted access the way alpha American males have access (true American alphas, not these bullshit RVF wannabe alphas). That is, he wanted to sample them all before seeking down on one to marry and have children with. But the American alpha males and elite females are a tightly knit bunch. Promiscuous with one another, yes, but not with outsiders, especially not grubby ethnics like RooshV.

Everything RooshV writes is ultimately driven by his resentment of the fact that, contrary to the propaganda about equal opportunity, America is actually a class based society just like Britain, and RooshV is not in the upper class and never will be. Most guys who discover this take a sharp turn to the political left. RooshV went right. But that is just superficial, just as Fascists, Nazis and Stalinists and other non-democratic Communists were all quite similar. All his political and sociological writing is a smokescreen to cover up what is really bothering him and his followers.

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put up articles talking game and f***ing sluts. I think the truth is clear: he does whatever gets hits or appeals to his audience. No concretes values or principles. If he got paid enough to blog about how great feminism is, he'd do that.

Actually you are very right, he writes Anything that will bring him hits and views:

Just 4 months ago, Roosh explained in a long post that he thinks "nationalism is much worse than feminism".....

Do not look for any kind of congruence in Roosh, his opinions
and emotions change much faster than those of women

http://archive.is/mQsn4

[Nomad]

Anyone who looks to a PUA for character and virtue will be sorely disappointed.

Its pretty insulting that they think they are beacons of light in this dark world, when all they are doing is feeding their flesh the lust it craves.

[abcdavid01]

If game isn't right, then what is?

A traditional, patriarchal world.

And that's exactly what Roosh advocates for these days. As a younger man he slept around a lot, which is certainly more acceptable for men than it is for women. Men have a higher sex drive and he recognized the reality of our corrupted society. Roosh decided to lean into it and learned a lot about female psychology along the way. Whether his methods were moral or not (and this is besides the point anyway), that doesn't mean his findings aren't true. His writings on female psychology are completely opposite of the feminist mainstream media. That's exactly why it's the truth. Roosh learned all this and came out the other side advocating for traditionalism. If you look at his recent articles for the past year, that's all he writes about. Saying he's just in it for the money is a pretty ridiculous charge. This is a man who's always been right about female psychology, but he grew older and matured in his response to it.

Anyone who looks to a PUA for character and virtue will be sorely disappointed.

Its pretty insulting that they think they are beacons of light in this dark world, when all they are doing is feeding their flesh the lust it craves.

Look at the pious preacher here.

[Johnny1975]

Long time no post, abc.

I think the reason why people are divided about Roosh is because there's truth in everyone's point of view.

[cdnFA]

Long time no post, abc.

I think the reason why people are divided about Roosh is because there's truth in everyone's point of view.

Except for Justin Beiber. There is no truth in his POV only pure evil.

[drealm]

And that's exactly what Roosh advocates for these days. As a younger man he slept around a lot, which is certainly more acceptable for men than it is for women. Men have a higher sex drive and he recognized the reality of our corrupted society. Roosh decided to lean into it and learned a lot about female psychology along the way. Whether his methods were moral or not (and this is besides the point anyway), that doesn't mean his findings aren't true. His writings on female psychology are completely opposite of the feminist mainstream media. That's exactly why it's the truth. Roosh learned all this and came out the other side advocating for traditionalism. If you look at his recent articles for the past year, that's all he writes about. Saying he's just in it for the money is a pretty ridiculous charge. This is a man who's always been right about female psychology, but he grew older and matured in his response to it.

abcdavid01, Roosh may accurately diagnose the symptoms of modern culture but is definitely not for traditional solutions in the sense that he'll pick a side. A simple test would be to visit his forum and tell PUA's to keep screwing American sluts but to stop seducing good non-American women. I am guessing you will be instantly banned. Another obvious sign that he's only superficially traditional is he'll ridicule someone for suggesting to use prostitutes instead of ruining marriageable women. That right there just shows how profoundly superficial his historical understanding is. So I'm pretty sure if he has a choice between his book sales and web traffic or being committed to real traditionalism, he will pick the former. His behavior suggests he's an opportunistic parasite who needs new avenues of content. Obviously he can't be a PUA for the rest of his life.

[Nomad]

Anyone who looks to a PUA for character and virtue will be sorely disappointed.

Its pretty insulting that they think they are beacons of light in this dark world, when all they are doing is feeding their flesh the lust it craves.

Look at the pious preacher here.

Not pious and not a preacher, but I do know people only say stuff like that when it hits close to home. I guess you went out "hunting" and now got some "experience" of your own.

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If we stay on-topic, here is a pretty clear graph that the downfall and collapse of RVF is
harsher than anyone would have predicted before:

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rooshvforum.com

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[books]

The older ROK articles like "People on welfare should die"
and "Why you must beat your kids" and so on, written by Roosh but recently deleted,
were his own beliefs or written only to get money?