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+1Cornfed wrote:Obviously most little skanks want to be boned by seasoned older men rather than little twerps their own age. They are just conditioned to pretend not to. You just need a social situation where they have permission to express their true feelings.
Barista is a transportable skill. Got to be a place where you could go now, not later. Someplace with money and a shortage of labor.Jeremy wrote:I'm a 26 year old barista and already have to rely on the odd hooker to get my needs met. By the time I can afford to leave this godforsaken cuntry, I'll be too old to take advantage of the dating climate abroad. Looks like I'll just have to accept the idea of never having a prime.
The "hot sex" was only bait.Jeremy wrote:Based on age limits on dating sites and what I've seen in real life, most girls in the 18-25 range won't date guys more than 5 years older than them. Problem is women over 25 are hideous. Yeah, I know there are exceptions.
But let's face it: the vast majority of late 20's women don't do any resistance training and have at least gone through a fat phase at some point (thus permanently stretching the skin). And even for women who've done everything right and have terrific genes, 33 seems to be the limit for looking attractive.
So basically you only have a decade to experience hot sex (if you're lucky), and then it's over? What about the next frickin' 60 years?
What about the next frickin' 60 years?
20 is not the physical prime of most men. It is well known in powerlifting circles that a man's potential strength peaks at 25, remains stable for 10 years or so and then slowly declines. This means his actual strength may peak in his 40s. Plus you get your "old man strength", which I put down to the thickening of connective tissue having an effect like a bench shirt. It is true your ability to run marathons, go 12 rounds with Tyson etc. decreases before then, but for day to day life, I would say the peak is around 40 for white men who keep themselves in shape. Of course if I could wave a magic wand and be 20 years younger I would do so, because then I would have 20 more years of youth. However, if I could choose to be a particular age forever, I would choose the age I am right now. Although I guess that means it is all downhill from here.The Professor wrote:Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest.
I guess as a professor, you don't know much about the real world.The Professor wrote:I'm seeing more and more couples where the woman is significantly older than the man. The situation is even worse in China. Almost all of the foreign guys I knew in China who had girlfriends were dating older women. Some were dating women 10-20 years older!
Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest. So back during the Paleolithic era these men would have made the best providers. Back then 30 was roughly the average life expectancy, so it wasn't in a woman's best interest to mate with a man over 30 since he would not only be an inferior provider, but he would probably die soon. All around not a good investment for the woman, who had to carry the baby for 9 months and take care of it for years.
You might wonder why any of that matters since older men make more money and are better providers now. The truth is our instincts have not really changed since the Paleolithic era. There was a short period where a lot of women married older men if they were good providers but older male providers have since become obsolete.
Men want women that are around 20 because they're the most fertile and most likely to bear healthy children. The difference is any 30 year old woman can date 20 year old guys but for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old woman or even a 25 year old woman, he needs to be exceptionally wealthy or have great looks and look younger than his age. Lots of 30+ guys think the latter of the two applies to them but most of them are just lying to themselves.
+1.....after you dump the conjecture...nature takes overJester wrote:I guess as a professor, you don't know much about the real world.The Professor wrote:I'm seeing more and more couples where the woman is significantly older than the man. The situation is even worse in China. Almost all of the foreign guys I knew in China who had girlfriends were dating older women. Some were dating women 10-20 years older!
Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest. So back during the Paleolithic era these men would have made the best providers. Back then 30 was roughly the average life expectancy, so it wasn't in a woman's best interest to mate with a man over 30 since he would not only be an inferior provider, but he would probably die soon. All around not a good investment for the woman, who had to carry the baby for 9 months and take care of it for years.
You might wonder why any of that matters since older men make more money and are better providers now. The truth is our instincts have not really changed since the Paleolithic era. There was a short period where a lot of women married older men if they were good providers but older male providers have since become obsolete.
Men want women that are around 20 because they're the most fertile and most likely to bear healthy children. The difference is any 30 year old woman can date 20 year old guys but for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old woman or even a 25 year old woman, he needs to be exceptionally wealthy or have great looks and look younger than his age. Lots of 30+ guys think the latter of the two applies to them but most of them are just lying to themselves.
At no time in history, ever, have 20 year old's on average been the best provider. Not even when we were chasing deer to eat, and fighting off predators.
Nor are they usually even the best athletes. Let alone the best killers, hunters, farmers or traders.
When people died at 30 on average, they didn't look old, chubby or scrawny. They just got sick and died, or got killed. Some died as kids, some lived to 60 or beyond. 30 has never been "old".
And no, women do not rationally calculate self-interest. A name brand on a purse means more to a woman than a "good investment". Their mating decisions are swayed by sweet words, dance, music, candlelight, etc. If women were rational, Mark Zuckerberg would have groupies.
And human females have never been polyandrous. Even street whores can't help falling in love with their pimp.
Women are irrational. They want to belong to a man with status. In the absence of media programming, religious rules, and public education, that would generally be the oldest, most revered warrior in town. Till he got picked off. Just like any herd mammals.
But since we are not just animals, the younger guys would still have a chance. Through looks, sweet words, bold gestures, brave deeds, etc.
But in the absence of those things, females prefer higher status.
In the current situation, both sexes behave unnaturally. Men seek approval, women demand. Older independent bitches may indeed find boy toys, as you describe. Homosexual behavior spreads, and even self-mutilation is accepted. None of this is natural.
Of course 20 year olds made better hunters than 30 year olds during the Paleolithic era. Who has more energy, stamina and speed?Jester wrote:I guess as a professor, you don't know much about the real world.The Professor wrote:I'm seeing more and more couples where the woman is significantly older than the man. The situation is even worse in China. Almost all of the foreign guys I knew in China who had girlfriends were dating older women. Some were dating women 10-20 years older!
Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest. So back during the Paleolithic era these men would have made the best providers. Back then 30 was roughly the average life expectancy, so it wasn't in a woman's best interest to mate with a man over 30 since he would not only be an inferior provider, but he would probably die soon. All around not a good investment for the woman, who had to carry the baby for 9 months and take care of it for years.
You might wonder why any of that matters since older men make more money and are better providers now. The truth is our instincts have not really changed since the Paleolithic era. There was a short period where a lot of women married older men if they were good providers but older male providers have since become obsolete.
Men want women that are around 20 because they're the most fertile and most likely to bear healthy children. The difference is any 30 year old woman can date 20 year old guys but for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old woman or even a 25 year old woman, he needs to be exceptionally wealthy or have great looks and look younger than his age. Lots of 30+ guys think the latter of the two applies to them but most of them are just lying to themselves.
At no time in history, ever, have 20 year old's on average been the best provider. Not even when we were chasing deer to eat, and fighting off predators.
Nor are they usually even the best athletes. Let alone the best killers, hunters, farmers or traders.
When people died at 30 on average, they didn't look old, chubby or scrawny. They just got sick and died, or got killed. Some died as kids, some lived to 60 or beyond. 30 has never been "old".
And no, women do not rationally calculate self-interest. A name brand on a purse means more to a woman than a "good investment". Their mating decisions are swayed by sweet words, dance, music, candlelight, etc. If women were rational, Mark Zuckerberg would have groupies.
And human females have never been polyandrous. Even street whores can't help falling in love with their pimp.
Women are irrational. They want to belong to a man with status. In the absence of media programming, religious rules, and public education, that would generally be the oldest, most revered warrior in town. Till he got picked off. Just like any herd mammals.
But since we are not just animals, the younger guys would still have a chance. Through looks, sweet words, bold gestures, brave deeds, etc.
But in the absence of those things, females prefer higher status.
In the current situation, both sexes behave unnaturally. Men seek approval, women demand. Older independent bitches may indeed find boy toys, as you describe. Homosexual behavior spreads, and even self-mutilation is accepted. None of this is natural.
Yep. Not to mention 20 year olds have healthier sperm, a shorter refractory period, higher fluid intelligence... There's really nothing good about aging beyond that point.The Professor wrote:Of course 20 year olds made better hunters than 30 year olds during the Paleolithic era. Who has more energy, stamina and speed?Jester wrote:I guess as a professor, you don't know much about the real world.The Professor wrote:I'm seeing more and more couples where the woman is significantly older than the man. The situation is even worse in China. Almost all of the foreign guys I knew in China who had girlfriends were dating older women. Some were dating women 10-20 years older!
Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest. So back during the Paleolithic era these men would have made the best providers. Back then 30 was roughly the average life expectancy, so it wasn't in a woman's best interest to mate with a man over 30 since he would not only be an inferior provider, but he would probably die soon. All around not a good investment for the woman, who had to carry the baby for 9 months and take care of it for years.
You might wonder why any of that matters since older men make more money and are better providers now. The truth is our instincts have not really changed since the Paleolithic era. There was a short period where a lot of women married older men if they were good providers but older male providers have since become obsolete.
Men want women that are around 20 because they're the most fertile and most likely to bear healthy children. The difference is any 30 year old woman can date 20 year old guys but for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old woman or even a 25 year old woman, he needs to be exceptionally wealthy or have great looks and look younger than his age. Lots of 30+ guys think the latter of the two applies to them but most of them are just lying to themselves.
At no time in history, ever, have 20 year old's on average been the best provider. Not even when we were chasing deer to eat, and fighting off predators.
Nor are they usually even the best athletes. Let alone the best killers, hunters, farmers or traders.
When people died at 30 on average, they didn't look old, chubby or scrawny. They just got sick and died, or got killed. Some died as kids, some lived to 60 or beyond. 30 has never been "old".
And no, women do not rationally calculate self-interest. A name brand on a purse means more to a woman than a "good investment". Their mating decisions are swayed by sweet words, dance, music, candlelight, etc. If women were rational, Mark Zuckerberg would have groupies.
And human females have never been polyandrous. Even street whores can't help falling in love with their pimp.
Women are irrational. They want to belong to a man with status. In the absence of media programming, religious rules, and public education, that would generally be the oldest, most revered warrior in town. Till he got picked off. Just like any herd mammals.
But since we are not just animals, the younger guys would still have a chance. Through looks, sweet words, bold gestures, brave deeds, etc.
But in the absence of those things, females prefer higher status.
In the current situation, both sexes behave unnaturally. Men seek approval, women demand. Older independent bitches may indeed find boy toys, as you describe. Homosexual behavior spreads, and even self-mutilation is accepted. None of this is natural.
Why do you think most professional athletes have such short careers? Most NFL, NBA and MLB players end up getting cut from the team after 3 years or so. The average age for all three is around 26 to 27.
http://bloggingthebeast.com/2012/09/01/ ... he-oldest/
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/3670 ... verage-age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_league ... experience
The averages would be even lower if it wasn't for league enforced restrictions. In the NFL a player can't be drafted unless he has graduated high school three years prior, and since most people graduate high school at 18 that makes the minimum age pretty much 21.
Obviously there are superstars that last into their 30s if they're that damn good, but there is always a sharp decline.
In pro sports, guys get cut for many reasons. If a guy is a star, they keep him till he has too many injuries to play. Declining stamina has little to do with it.The Professor wrote:Of course 20 year olds made better hunters than 30 year olds during the Paleolithic era. Who has more energy, stamina and speed?Jester wrote:I guess as a professor, you don't know much about the real world.The Professor wrote:I'm seeing more and more couples where the woman is significantly older than the man. The situation is even worse in China. Almost all of the foreign guys I knew in China who had girlfriends were dating older women. Some were dating women 10-20 years older!
Women have always had a sexual preference for men in their physical prime, which is around 20. That's when men have the most stamina, the most energy, the highest testosterone levels, have the fastest metabolisms, have the strongest immune systems, are the leanest, and generally the strongest. So back during the Paleolithic era these men would have made the best providers. Back then 30 was roughly the average life expectancy, so it wasn't in a woman's best interest to mate with a man over 30 since he would not only be an inferior provider, but he would probably die soon. All around not a good investment for the woman, who had to carry the baby for 9 months and take care of it for years.
You might wonder why any of that matters since older men make more money and are better providers now. The truth is our instincts have not really changed since the Paleolithic era. There was a short period where a lot of women married older men if they were good providers but older male providers have since become obsolete.
Men want women that are around 20 because they're the most fertile and most likely to bear healthy children. The difference is any 30 year old woman can date 20 year old guys but for a 30 year old guy to date a 20 year old woman or even a 25 year old woman, he needs to be exceptionally wealthy or have great looks and look younger than his age. Lots of 30+ guys think the latter of the two applies to them but most of them are just lying to themselves.
At no time in history, ever, have 20 year old's on average been the best provider. Not even when we were chasing deer to eat, and fighting off predators.
Nor are they usually even the best athletes. Let alone the best killers, hunters, farmers or traders.
When people died at 30 on average, they didn't look old, chubby or scrawny. They just got sick and died, or got killed. Some died as kids, some lived to 60 or beyond. 30 has never been "old".
And no, women do not rationally calculate self-interest. A name brand on a purse means more to a woman than a "good investment". Their mating decisions are swayed by sweet words, dance, music, candlelight, etc. If women were rational, Mark Zuckerberg would have groupies.
And human females have never been polyandrous. Even street whores can't help falling in love with their pimp.
Women are irrational. They want to belong to a man with status. In the absence of media programming, religious rules, and public education, that would generally be the oldest, most revered warrior in town. Till he got picked off. Just like any herd mammals.
But since we are not just animals, the younger guys would still have a chance. Through looks, sweet words, bold gestures, brave deeds, etc.
But in the absence of those things, females prefer higher status.
In the current situation, both sexes behave unnaturally. Men seek approval, women demand. Older independent bitches may indeed find boy toys, as you describe. Homosexual behavior spreads, and even self-mutilation is accepted. None of this is natural.
Tell that to this guy:Rock wrote:From Runners World
Whether you're an Olympic champ or a midpack runner, your aerobic capacity falls with age. For a healthy, trained athlete, it's not your heart's stroke volume or your ability to extract oxygen from blood that changes with age, says Sandra Hunter, Ph.D., an exercise scientist at Marquette University in Milwaukee. "It's that your max heart rate declines, and no one can change that. It just plummets."
Rock wrote:From Runners World
Whether you're an Olympic champ or a midpack runner,
Rock wrote:From Runners World
Whether you're an Olympic champ or a midpack runner,
