18 year old disillusioned in Taiwan after night out

[sinbadsailor]

But anyhow, would any of you benefit from me and Rock doing a field report if we get together and go out?

[Rock]

Sinbadsailor

I'll be back in Taipei at the end of this month. If you really wanna meet and date local girls, I think I can help get you sorted out.

Yeah I would love to. I just started to take Chinese classes at Normal University and there are a lot of good looking foreign girls there, especially in the library. I have a pretty busy schedule but pm me we will work it out and maybe do a report on here or something.

I'm back!

I'm assuming that if you were here till 4th grade, your everyday spoken Mandarin is quite fluent. I suppose you are at Shi Da mainly to improve your reading/writing and expand your vocab, correct? Being able to converse comfortably in Mandarin will definitely be an asset in meeting girls here. You need it to effectively chat-up majority of targets.

Anyway, PM me to get my contact details. We can go out when you have time. Field reports from abroad are always most welcome on this forum as we don't get enough of them. So we could write-up whatever happens, good or bad. But my hope is that you can meet local girls when we go out, not foreign ones. That's the whole point of being in Taipei, right?

[Rock]

Welcome Sinbadsailor.



How do you look? Have you tried dating sites there? If all else fails, just get a pro for 3,000 NT. The taxi drivers will tell you where to go and take you. Or go to China or Thailand. People are far more open there and easier to connect with.

Comparison example: In Taiwan, women don't make eye contact when they walk. They either look down on the ground or straight ahead. Their eyes never make contact with yours. They don't look around. But in China they do, according to our members' trip reports. Even Falcon told me that they do. In China, women will make eye contact and return your gaze. To me, that's normal.

Keep in mind the historical changes of the two countries. Taiwan has been modernized for a long time now, and the culture is now turning into a cynical, stuck up, and egoistical culture. China, on the other hand, has just begun modernizing. So they are more like the 1920's of America (flappers, parties, Great Gatsbys).

You may be right about Taiwan. But let's give it our best shot! However, I'm not sure China is quite like the crazy parties of the 20s era USA and the Great Gatsby. It strikes me as being rather conservative as a whole, even more so than Taiwan in some ways.

[Jester]

Lesson # 1 that you must learn young

a) Don't look for water in the desert.
b) You can't get blood from a turnip.

You need to go to the Nile to get fresh water in abundance. You must go to a blood bank to get blood. Do you get my drift? You need to go to countries where women are in abundance and where they are friendly. This is the only thing that's worthwhile

People may start telling you that there are places in the desert and times where/when you can get some water. That there are oases -- but there are huge numbers of humans and animals fighting over those. People will attempt to teach you how to fight over the brackish water in those oasis and how to be a better quicker water-seeker.

People will attempt to tell you that you need to learn how to twist turnips a certain way and if you squeeze enough of them, you will get blood. They will also tell you that the reason you can't get blood from them is because you are not skillfull enough.

Get my drift! Go to the Nile! There is no use complaining about this or that quality of the desert and how turnips just don't give you blood.

Classic.

+1

[Jester]

Not just the Phils, but also rural NE Thailand from my experience.

This is how my Thai gf and I dance together. The music is fast and aggressive, like Latin American cumbia and merengue. It's impossible to imagine Taiwanese dancing like this! Even if they try, you can imagine it will be quite forced and unnatural for them.

Nice!

[Jester]

But anyhow, would any of you benefit from me and Rock doing a field report if we get together and go out?

Well speaking just for myself, the benefit would be the teasing Winston would get, if you end up having a blast.

[sinbadsailor]

Sinbadsailor

I'll be back in Taipei at the end of this month. If you really wanna meet and date local girls, I think I can help get you sorted out.

Yeah I would love to. I just started to take Chinese classes at Normal University and there are a lot of good looking foreign girls there, especially in the library. I have a pretty busy schedule but pm me we will work it out and maybe do a report on here or something.

I'm assuming that if you were here till 4th grade, your everyday spoken Mandarin is quite fluent. I suppose you are at Shi Da mainly to improve your reading/writing and expand your vocab, correct? Being able to converse comfortably in Mandarin will definitely be an asset in meeting girls here. You need it to effectively chat-up majority of targets.

hahaha I remember trying to rap to girls in the club in broken Chinese "you are beautiful" and get the "creep" stares.

[Rock]

Sinbadsailor

I'll be back in Taipei at the end of this month. If you really wanna meet and date local girls, I think I can help get you sorted out.

Yeah I would love to. I just started to take Chinese classes at Normal University and there are a lot of good looking foreign girls there, especially in the library. I have a pretty busy schedule but pm me we will work it out and maybe do a report on here or something.

I'm assuming that if you were here till 4th grade, your everyday spoken Mandarin is quite fluent. I suppose you are at Shi Da mainly to improve your reading/writing and expand your vocab, correct? Being able to converse comfortably in Mandarin will definitely be an asset in meeting girls here. You need it to effectively chat-up majority of targets.

hahaha I remember trying to rap to girls in the club in broken Chinese "you are beautiful" and get the "creep" stares.

OK, if your Chinese is not so hot, that still leaves possibilities open. One thing I can attempt to do is convince girls of your choice to befriend you and do language exchange. That can often work out quite well. But I gotta first meet you and know you and your motivations a bit before I can give you anymore practical direction. I responded to your PM with my contact details. Ball's in your court.

[divinity911]

Hi guys,

I am new to this forum and have been reading a bunch of posts regarding Taiwan with great interest. It's really wonderful that there's an online community that is actively discussing about life in Taiwan. I have to say that for the most part, I agree with Winston, Sinbad and some of the others regarding how cold the women are in Taiwan. Please allow me to give some background info and context to why I am posting:

I was born in Taiwan, but had left the country to live in Australia, and later the US since 10, so I would say my thinking is very Western. I do speak Mandarin fluently.

I have been traveling to Hong Kong, Thailand, and now ending the trip with a 2 week stay in Taiwan before returning to San Francisco. I was amazed each and every time I come back to Taiwan, particularly with the observations that the girls are looking more and more attractive. I don't know if it's the summer heat, the incredible make up techniques, microsurgeries, or that people in Taiwan walk so much and are thus slim and fit, the girls just look so hot! Of course after a few hours of seeing countless gorgeous females walk by, I started wishing I could get to know some of them.

I am a somewhat decent looking guy with nice build, although short. Here are my pictures for reference:




I have been traveling with various local female companions (of the physically intimate nature) that I've met online or in public during my previous trips in Hong Kong and Thailand, so naturally I was expecting to get lucky in Taiwan. My experiences with Taiwanese girls include: on my last trip, I took home a girl I met at Carnegie's (who spoke incredibly good English for somebody that's never lived overseas). My ex-gf is an extremely attractive Taiwanese girl whom I met while she was studying in the States. I've also dated another Taiwanese girl way back in the days when I came back for a year to do schooling here.

This time around I was fortunate enough to meet a very cute and sweet girl at a coffee shop. I will spare you the details, but basically I managed to pull her away from her work (she is the ultimate workaholic, director at an ads firms) that day for a dinner date, then we hit up a bar. I am what you would say a dis-alarming person, or rather, harmless, so I tend to do well with women once they are willing to give me the time of the day. Anyways, it didn't take much convincing for her to come back with me to my apartment, where we did the deed. Again, long story short, she seemed to be really into me, but due to some misunderstanding over the next few days and the fact that she is overly independent and extreme, things ended between us. I got my first taste of how much I didn't understand about the way real local Taiwanese girls think. It's a rather long story and another thread in itself, but I have a few theories as to what happened. One is that she just used me for an one night stand (yea yea i know, I should stop whining).

Anyways I digress. I too found Taiwanese girls (in Taipei anyways) to be very difficult to approach. Sure, I think things would have been if I was better looking or somehow appear to be more wealthy, but in general I found the few girls I've approached to act as if I was trying to rob her whenever I initiate contact. The worst part is, in all the other places I've been to around the world, girls will reject you in a nice way, but in Taiwan a good number of girls will give you an insulting look. Since meeting that first girl, I've approached only abut 5 girls. I actually got phone numbers of 3 of them, but had no luck getting them to come out. I have came to accept that it's just the way it is, and that Taiwan is indeed a wonderful high end luxury goods store, but I cannot obtain the stuff behind the glass cases. I kind of stopped approaching girls now as it's futile and settle for just observing. I do have a few friends in Taiwan, but unfortunately I haven't been getting good help in terms of introduction. I too am curious how the Caucasian men do when you guys approach a girl cold in public places and at bars??? It seems pretty difficult for me, and I don't know if it's my looks, fact that I ain't a big shot, or that I am simply like every other guy here. My theory is that ABC's don't really have that much advantage here, at least not when cold approach is at play. ABC seem to have some advantage over local guys once the girl knows about you, but of course that's the hardest part. I confirmed my thinking with local friends and they pretty much confirmed that it is indeed very difficult to try to approach somebody cold due to media constantly telling people how dangerous strangers could be. Also Taiwanese girls are absolutely not adept at socializing with strangers.

I just realized a few hours ago that people here use OKCupid (damn it I wish somebody told me this a few weeks ago) and so far have already received a reply from an attractive woman, so maybe not all is lost...

On a side note, can somebody tell me what it's like dating a local girl? I ask this in the context of if they typically have "princess syndromes", are demanding, or make the guys do a lot of shit? Are the girls here able to carry out intellectual conversations, and are they emotionally stable (hmm are women anywhere emotionally stable?). Hope that didn't offend any ladies here.