The Philippines made me become MGTOW *sigh*

[MrBlueLight]

Mr.Bluelight,

I think newlifephilippines is correct. Regardless if your Asian or white if you act like player in Asia and let say break a girls heart. She will remember and avoid those guys or hold bitterness. Since your a foreigner anyway....it makes it harder for the next guy looking for something legit.

I'm Asian myself..so I can relate with the discrimination that Asian men deal with in the dating market. I mean there probably is more reason for Asian guys to go overseas than white guys BUT saying that you say that you were an ex-model and tall. I met tall decent looking Asian guys in the states...they had no trouble dating local American girls..but they did it by approaching white or whatever type of girls . So even in the states it's possible although I think for Asian guys we have to work harder.

drronnie ,

If what your saying is true about Thai women looking for the better deal or cheating on their husband...and Thai men being left out. I mean what's the situation in THailand ? There still guys out there going to Thailand looking for wives and legit girls but according to you Thai women are not that great.

I did modeling for an Asian country, not in America. I do not have the rugged masculine American look, rather, more of the Korean/Japanese bishonen look that people in Asia dig. So I do get dates in America, but it's nothing like the quality and quantity I get in Asia, that's for sure. The truth about American girls are that the majority of them want nothing to do with ethnic minority men. There is a study done on Okcupid that showed that the majority of white girls AND Asian American girls only want to date white guys. Of course there are still some girls who are willing, but the effort it takes to wade through all the "romantically racist" women is simply not worth it. Note I am talking about hook-ups and not long-term relationships. Finding someone to be in a long-term relationship in America is not hard, but getting consistent high quality hook-up in America as an Asian guy is extremely difficult without some kind of fame. The difference between America and Asia for Asian guys is that being in America is like playing the game with handicap on hard mode. In Asia, it's game on "normal" mode. For whites, some Asian countries would be "easy" mode.

I've heard that normal Korean and Japanese women tend to prefer their own men, but the same cannot be said for women in other Asian countries (although Hong Kong is also kind of like that too). In less nationalistic places such as China, Taiwan and the Philippines, most women I've talked to have at least some attraction curiosity towardwhite men, but they don't date them because of fear of language barrier and lack or opportunity to meet one.

As far as age gap is concerned, unless the woman is a gold-digger, most women in North-east Asia strongly prefer to date men close to their age. 10 years is too big of an age-gap in those places. But women in Southeast Asia are more lenient when it comes to age, and 10 years is nothing.

[newlifeinphilippines]

Now im going full blown MGTOW cause of religious reasons. I need to get away from lust and fornication as much as I possibly can.

[Zambales]

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

[Man With a Plan]

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

This is my guess.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.

There is a type of MGTOW called a "MGTOW Monk" who have sworn off women by choice. Some of these "monks" opine that a true MGTOW eschew women completely. Such is false and part of a "No true Scotsman" argument that they make.

A lot of people confused the True Forced Loneliness folks with MGTOW. They are vastly different although there has been some TFL migration into very small MGTOW Monk ranks.

[Zambales]

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.

I've never heard anyone on here describe it in that manner.

Absolutely nothing wrong with not allowing oneself to be dictated by society though as I'm like that too, but I don't feel the need to be part of something like MGTOW. It has too many confusing tentacles which makes it pointless in my opinion.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

I can't understand how any western guy can become MGTOW in the Philippines . You people must be looking in the wrong places. Either that or you've got monger scrawled across your foreheads.

I think you still have a misunderstanding of MGTOW. It is simply men following their own path without regard to society's dictates. Some MGTOW include women in their lives, some do not.

I've never heard anyone on here describe it in that manner.

Absolutely nothing wrong with not allowing oneself to be dictated by society though as I'm like that too, but I don't feel the need to be part of something like MGTOW. It has too many confusing tentacles which makes it pointless in my opinion.

MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.

MGTOW Philosopher just put out a MGTOW 101 video today which is the best rundown of MGTOW I have seen to date. He also addresses the "that's not really MGTOW" types of men too.

[Zambales]

MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.

Not every woman is the same though. Just like not every man is the same.

I was only speaking to a contact of mine just yesterday. His missus allows him his freedom. He can go anywhere in the world he wants at anytime and both are perfectly happy with that arrangement. OK, he's got to be a good boy, but how many women would allow their men to have that kind of liberty? Not many, but they do exist.

In his own words to an effect; "I had to shovel plenty of shit to find a diamond"

[Contrarian Expatriate]

MGTOW is not a club nor an organization to "join", it is simply a mindset and a lifestyle. It manifests itself differently in each individual man and the only common denominator is not permitting women to exert undue power and control over you. How do women do that, by using state organs of power and social pressure when you marry them or sire children with them or cohabitate with them.

Keeping women at some distance from you is a protective measure. Just how far you must keep them away depends on the society in question, but marriage tends to be the universally agreed upon no go zone.

Not every woman is the same though. Just like not every man is the same.

Again, you are too focused on the women instead of the systems which grant women the power to exert the control. So it does not matter if not all women are the same.

What does matter is that all women have some measure of coercive means to extract from you, control you, sire condemnation from others against you, and bring down state power upon you! The degree to which they have this power depends on the society in question.

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

Mr.Bluelight,

I think newlifephilippines is correct. Regardless if your Asian or white if you act like player in Asia and let say break a girls heart. She will remember and avoid those guys or hold bitterness. Since your a foreigner anyway....it makes it harder for the next guy looking for something legit.

I'm Asian myself..so I can relate with the discrimination that Asian men deal with in the dating market. I mean there probably is more reason for Asian guys to go overseas than white guys BUT saying that you say that you were an ex-model and tall. I met tall decent looking Asian guys in the states...they had no trouble dating local American girls..but they did it by approaching white or whatever type of girls . So even in the states it's possible although I think for Asian guys we have to work harder.

drronnie ,

If what your saying is true about Thai women looking for the better deal or cheating on their husband...and Thai men being left out. I mean what's the situation in THailand ? There still guys out there going to Thailand looking for wives and legit girls but according to you Thai women are not that great.

I did modeling for an Asian country, not in America. I do not have the rugged masculine American look, rather, more of the Korean/Japanese bishonen look that people in Asia dig. So I do get dates in America, but it's nothing like the quality and quantity I get in Asia, that's for sure. The truth about American girls are that the majority of them want nothing to do with ethnic minority men. There is a study done on Okcupid that showed that the majority of white girls AND Asian American girls only want to date white guys. Of course there are still some girls who are willing, but the effort it takes to wade through all the "romantically racist" women is simply not worth it. Note I am talking about hook-ups and not long-term relationships. Finding someone to be in a long-term relationship in America is not hard, but getting consistent high quality hook-up in America as an Asian guy is extremely difficult without some kind of fame. The difference between America and Asia for Asian guys is that being in America is like playing the game with handicap on hard mode. In Asia, it's game on "normal" mode. For whites, some Asian countries would be "easy" mode.

I've heard that normal Korean and Japanese women tend to prefer their own men, but the same cannot be said for women in other Asian countries (although Hong Kong is also kind of like that too). In less nationalistic places such as China, Taiwan and the Philippines, most women I've talked to have at least some attraction curiosity towardwhite men, but they don't date them because of fear of language barrier and lack or opportunity to meet one.

As far as age gap is concerned, unless the woman is a gold-digger, most women in North-east Asia strongly prefer to date men close to their age. 10 years is too big of an age-gap in those places. But women in Southeast Asia are more lenient when it comes to age, and 10 years is nothing.

You should date in the SF Bay Area....especially if you're into I.T. that you can pull some Viet or Korean girls in the SF Peninsula.

[Falcon]

You should date in the SF Bay Area....especially if you're into I.T. that you can pull some Viet or Korean girls in the SF Peninsula.

Please tell that to all of our Californian forum members.

Man Jose, Manpertino, Milpenis, Sunnymale, Manta Cruz, Man Francisco.

[kairosan117]

Isnt MGTOW a response to the unjust court system in the States and other anglo countries? Is it just Anglo countries having a feminist issue or the entire world?
The US Isnt the world!
And not every culture is trying to be the United States.

I'm sensing that unfortunately that some of yall have been inprisioned in the U.S matrix so long that when you do go abroad, you fear rejection and afriad of a woman even with good intentions. Don't you guys realized that these problems were just symptoms of being stuck in the west for a long period of time?

And sure, I could understand that we men need our space from controling bitches.and sure some Asain chicks will treat you like a wallet. But does that mean that you should give up all together?

Shouldn't the rosperity factor work more into your favor when out of the country? At least in most third world entities?

.but common guys. I thought this was HA. And
Since when was happier abroad ever about MGTOW?
Or as a friend likes to call it "men groping their own wang"

If i wanna go abroad, live happier and be with a foreign girl, that doesn't make me a simp or beta male! I don't need no MGTOWs approval on how to live MY LIFE!

[E Irizarry R&B Singer]

You should date in the SF Bay Area....especially if you're into I.T. that you can pull some Viet or Korean girls in the SF Peninsula.

Please tell that to all of our Californian forum members.

Man Jose, Manpertino, Milpenis, Sunnymale, Manta Cruz, Man Francisco.

How did I miss this one? LOL hahahaa Yeah SLV sux not sucks but sux. It's only good for making a quick 10 to 25 stacks and then get out.
Shall I continue to paraphrase? e.g. Wayward, Fruityvale (better yet: FruityMale) LOL, Can't Copeland, Poormond, Man Leandro, Fake Pal-O Alt-Left-O, Crammed'bell, Morgan Blue Pill, Kilroy (LOL), Pee'd Mont, Trillbrae, etc.

[Yohan]

Isnt MGTOW a response to the unjust court system in the States and other anglo countries? Is it just Anglo countries having a feminist issue or the entire world?
The US Isnt the world!
And not every culture is trying to be the United States.

No, MGTOW is not only a response to the unjust court system in the States and other Anglo countries.

MGTOW is the response against rampant feminism. You might find feminism nowadays almost everywhere in this world.

In the MGTOW-Forum, where I am administrator, members are coming from various places in Europe where people do not use English for daily conversation,
I met or could talk online with MGTOWs from Emirates, from India, from Japan, from Singapore, from China - from time to time even females are showing up telling us about problems of their son or of their father....

However problems which are the reason why men are joining MGTOW are different from country to country.

For example MGTOW from India are complaining about dowry fraud (law 498A)- something which does not exist in USA.
The newly-wed wife is complaining about abuse, totally false accusation and is asking for divorce and financial compensation and if not, without any proof she had the power to ask authorities to arrest the husband and his parents and even other relatives.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/ind ... 796255.cms
Acknowledging a growing trend among women involved in marital discord to abuse Section 498A of IPC to rope in their husbands' relatives — including parents, minor children, siblings and grandparents — in criminal cases, a bench of Justices A K Goel and UU Lalit said it was high time such frivolous cases which violated the human rights of innocent was checked.
This is a shift from the dominant judicial conception of women as victims who would silently suffer injustice ....

MGTOW is clearly not only about USA.
Marriage in India can be a disaster for the husband and his parents in case of divorce.

The question is where should men who were badly treated by females in their past go for more information? Where should young men ask around and receive unbiased non-politically correct answers to their question if marriage, children etc. makes sense for a young man?
The only place I know are MGTOW sites, which do allow such questions and where members are able to talk without being ridiculed by feminist bloggers.
Try to post anything against any female, regardless how malicious she is, in any other forum - your comment will be quickly deleted and the user is banned. Try to post anything positive about men and your comment will not long be there... and not only in USA.

I made some negative comments about women during a discussion in the Japan Times, and it took only a few minutes and my MGTOW-comment was gone. Japan Times in English is not Japanese anymore, it's connected to N.Y. Times in USA.

So, where can you talk about men and their problems? I really do not know any other place but MGTOW Forums. I also have to say that this forum HA is not into censorship as it is promoting to the displeasure of feminists the option to internationa/interracial marriage and travel to abroad for meeting women.

[Contrarian Expatriate]

but common guys. I thought this was HA. And
Since when was happier abroad ever about MGTOW?
Or as a friend likes to call it "men groping their own wang"

There are legions of MGTOW who opt to live abroad. MGTOW and the overseas lifestyle tend to go hand in hand. But you're right, HA goes beyond far MGTOW; we just happen to be a sizable mafia on this site if you judge by the many threads on the subject.

If i wanna go abroad, live happier and be with a foreign girl, that doesn't make me a simp or beta male! I don't need no MGTOWs approval on how to live MY LIFE!

Correct on both counts. So long as you don't become a simp you can said to be living a MGTOW lifestyle if you want. And if not, so be it. It is not for everyone, especially those who want to raise kids. However, getting TRAPPED and exploited by a girl abroad is not MGTOW at all because that is what we should be primed to avoid.

The beta male question is irrelevant because many if not most MGTOWs are not Alphas, just "red pill aware" of female nature.