
If you want to know how you'd do socially in China, go there and find out for yourself. If you don't like what you see, vote with your feet and go somewhere else.
So decent looking guys are willing to date obese women because they are "willing to do more". Also there are fat fetishists.kai1275 wrote:Any man that has f***ed a big woman can tell you that the ride is nice in many ways. They can take a pounding, and often times they are willing to do the nasty things a skinny woman would never do. It's just reality. Chinese men's version of "a traditional wife" is one that is super super obedient and does anything they want and treats them like a king. If a bigger woman is willing to break all stops because she knows that if she grabs that gentle man's attention, she might get super lucky. Also look at that first dude, he is not only super ugly, but he looks like the biggest dork I ever saw. Winston looks like Christiano Ronaldo compared to him. In your second set, that girl would probably be a 9 if she was 60 pounds less. She has a super cute face and since his is handsome, most likely he may just enjoy that ride and pointy elbows and knees are not his thing.The Professor wrote:I'll take it this is the "good enough wife" phenomenon in action:kai1275 wrote:What city are you hanging out in? I only see stuff like that in Beijing and Guangzhou. I also see more even matched couples too. The reason why they have those ugly girls is because they treat that man right, and he doesn't give a f**k about her looks. Maybe I should write about this in my guide, but there is a concept in China called "Good Enough Wife". Old-school-minded Chinese men often times do not make huge fusses over wives when they pick one. Rural Chinese men do this often. Don't assume every Chinese you see in any city is actually from there. They might be a country boy/girl, that just works there as a migrant worker with a work permit. Those men look decent and look strong but they are very poor. Poor countryside guys are not getting hot 9 and 10s from the city. They would have to be lucky or have good game.The Professor wrote:One thing I've noticed in China is that the more attractive and upper class a girl looks, the less likely she is to have a boyfriend, or at least be seen with one in public.
Ugly women and fat women here are nearly always holding hands with some skinny normal looking dude. Hot middle class and upper class women on the other hand are commonly by themselves or with their girl friends. It's especially true if they're not only hot but also make an effort to look feminine with cute hairstyles, makeup, and actually shaving their legs and armpits, something most Chinese women do not do.
I suppose it makes sense though. Upper class hot women have everything they want already. Their daddy spoils them so they don't need a guy for money and they're showered with attention and validation from both genders, lust from men and envy from women. What would they date a guy for? Going shopping with daddy's money, gossiping on QQ, and posting mundane details of their daily lives and their random, meaningless thoughts on Weibo are far more appealing to them than being in a romantic relationship with a man. Maybe they'll have the occasional fling with some young guy of model quality looks.
These are China's "leftover women" lol.
They all have some threshold of qualities they want, but if a girl has 5 or 6 out of 10, they call that "Good Enough Wife" (translated in English). Especially if they do not have enough money for a car and apartment. Chinese men with those things, become much pickier because their buying power just went up times 100.
I see so many couples like that here.
It doesn't matter if these guys "don't give a f**k about her looks". No matter how you rationalize this, the fact that so many perfectly decent looking chinese guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel that there's a well known phrase for it shows there is a serious problem. These guys are ruining it for everyone else. Obviously ugly girls and fat girls have no incentive to date their equals if they can easily marry a much better looking guy who thinks she is "good enough".
We're not even talking about one night stands, flings, or regular relationships. We're talking about MARRIAGE, which is (supposed to be) a lifelong commitment. Also in China it is fairly standard for the man to financially support the wife's family. So perfectly decent looking Chinese guys are willing to make lifelong commitments to bottom barrel women and financially support them and their family. Other ugly women and obese women see this going on and raise their standards, which leaves China's less attractive men left out altogether unless they can make up for it by making a lot of money, though if they opt for this route they'll only get some gold digger who doesn't love them.
Then again this is a country with a huge surplus of men so I suppose that accounts for the fact that men are extra desperate for any woman they can get in this country.
Most of my chinese friends are in their 20s and a lot of them never even kissed a woman. Some of them told me they've never so much as been on a date.
Before I came to China I never thought it was even possible for things to be this bad for guys anywhere.
All big girls "do a little something strange" for a piece of change" like Mike Epps likes to say. LOL
You do not understand Chinese culture very well yet. The bold parts typically apply only to Chinese men in China. If you are a "laowai" your approach must be different. You have advantages that they do not have, you just need to approach the ones interested in your type. You can do that online and in person. All it takes is one to sweep you off your feet, and we never hear from you again. Check out my guide sometime. It might help a lot. This afternoon i will add some things that might help a person in your shoes.The Professor wrote:So decent looking guys are willing to date obese women because they are "willing to do more". Also there are fat fetishists.kai1275 wrote:Any man that has f***ed a big woman can tell you that the ride is nice in many ways. They can take a pounding, and often times they are willing to do the nasty things a skinny woman would never do. It's just reality. Chinese men's version of "a traditional wife" is one that is super super obedient and does anything they want and treats them like a king. If a bigger woman is willing to break all stops because she knows that if she grabs that gentle man's attention, she might get super lucky. Also look at that first dude, he is not only super ugly, but he looks like the biggest dork I ever saw. Winston looks like Christiano Ronaldo compared to him. In your second set, that girl would probably be a 9 if she was 60 pounds less. She has a super cute face and since his is handsome, most likely he may just enjoy that ride and pointy elbows and knees are not his thing.The Professor wrote:I'll take it this is the "good enough wife" phenomenon in action:kai1275 wrote:What city are you hanging out in? I only see stuff like that in Beijing and Guangzhou. I also see more even matched couples too. The reason why they have those ugly girls is because they treat that man right, and he doesn't give a f**k about her looks. Maybe I should write about this in my guide, but there is a concept in China called "Good Enough Wife". Old-school-minded Chinese men often times do not make huge fusses over wives when they pick one. Rural Chinese men do this often. Don't assume every Chinese you see in any city is actually from there. They might be a country boy/girl, that just works there as a migrant worker with a work permit. Those men look decent and look strong but they are very poor. Poor countryside guys are not getting hot 9 and 10s from the city. They would have to be lucky or have good game.The Professor wrote:One thing I've noticed in China is that the more attractive and upper class a girl looks, the less likely she is to have a boyfriend, or at least be seen with one in public.
Ugly women and fat women here are nearly always holding hands with some skinny normal looking dude. Hot middle class and upper class women on the other hand are commonly by themselves or with their girl friends. It's especially true if they're not only hot but also make an effort to look feminine with cute hairstyles, makeup, and actually shaving their legs and armpits, something most Chinese women do not do.
I suppose it makes sense though. Upper class hot women have everything they want already. Their daddy spoils them so they don't need a guy for money and they're showered with attention and validation from both genders, lust from men and envy from women. What would they date a guy for? Going shopping with daddy's money, gossiping on QQ, and posting mundane details of their daily lives and their random, meaningless thoughts on Weibo are far more appealing to them than being in a romantic relationship with a man. Maybe they'll have the occasional fling with some young guy of model quality looks.
These are China's "leftover women" lol.
They all have some threshold of qualities they want, but if a girl has 5 or 6 out of 10, they call that "Good Enough Wife" (translated in English). Especially if they do not have enough money for a car and apartment. Chinese men with those things, become much pickier because their buying power just went up times 100.
I see so many couples like that here.
It doesn't matter if these guys "don't give a f**k about her looks". No matter how you rationalize this, the fact that so many perfectly decent looking chinese guys are scraping the bottom of the barrel that there's a well known phrase for it shows there is a serious problem. These guys are ruining it for everyone else. Obviously ugly girls and fat girls have no incentive to date their equals if they can easily marry a much better looking guy who thinks she is "good enough".
We're not even talking about one night stands, flings, or regular relationships. We're talking about MARRIAGE, which is (supposed to be) a lifelong commitment. Also in China it is fairly standard for the man to financially support the wife's family. So perfectly decent looking Chinese guys are willing to make lifelong commitments to bottom barrel women and financially support them and their family. Other ugly women and obese women see this going on and raise their standards, which leaves China's less attractive men left out altogether unless they can make up for it by making a lot of money, though if they opt for this route they'll only get some gold digger who doesn't love them.
Then again this is a country with a huge surplus of men so I suppose that accounts for the fact that men are extra desperate for any woman they can get in this country.
Most of my chinese friends are in their 20s and a lot of them never even kissed a woman. Some of them told me they've never so much as been on a date.
Before I came to China I never thought it was even possible for things to be this bad for guys anywhere.
All big girls "do a little something strange" for a piece of change" like Mike Epps likes to say. LOL
Decent looking guys are willing to marry ugly women because they are "good enough".
Decent looking guys are willing to marry poor girls because many don't care about financial status.
So where are the women that don't have decent looking guys chasing them? Where are the women where I would only have to compete with guys in my league for? That's a rhetorical question, they don't exist. No matter where I go, what I do, or what woman I approach, I am going to have to compete with guys that outmatch me. I can't win. That's why I've gotten rejected by every woman I've ever tried with, both in the US and here in China.
No matter what the reason for decent looking men being willing to marry significantly down is, the effects are the same. Even women at the bottom of the totem pole raise their standards and less attractive men are left out entirely.
It all comes down to men having much stronger desire for women than women have for men.
You know what fellas....why pay for p***y like that in China? You can have your own "mistresses" (er nai) or share one. Then the police will never bother you. KTV and xiaojie in the streets are nasty. They are also 4s 5s and 6s. If you have a little lady you spend money on and buy gifts that does not mind being your mistress, you can avoid trouble, maybe STDs, and she will look better. I don't monger, but if I was like that, I would not go to seedy places like the bathhouse or the hotel women... they are not really hot at all. We all know p***y isnt free, so why bother.Ghost wrote:So what's the safest way for a laowei to do p4p in the PRC, xiongmao? I've read a lot about KTVs and bathhouses.
After reading some recent threads here, I'm getting worried about having much fun over there besides eating in restaurants and going to parks. I was hoping I could play it safe and have fun too.
That's not true at all. It's a Western media lie. At least not in the Chinese cities. Go to China and you will see. In Chinese cities like Shenzhen, Guangzhou and even small cities like Zhuhai, Dongguan and Foshan, I see MORE women and girls than men and boys. Or at least I notice the women and girls more of course. lol. Every 10 seconds a hot girl walks by. Seriously.Bane wrote:I can't believe nobody has mentioned the fact that in China, there are so many more single men than single women nowadays, due to the unnatural gender imbalance that exists.
Think about how in America, where there are more single men, women have the time of their lives picking and choosing which men to date/have sex with, and get to reject. America is a great country for hot women, they can basically have whomever they want. By all means, this problem should be magnified many times in a place like China, where the imbalance of single men is skewed even more in the woman's favor.
For most average Chinese men, quality females really ARE a rare commodity. This whole thing doesn't surprise me at all. It is a natural outgrowth of a severe gender imbalance issue, coupled with being spoiled by being born into a single child family.
This sounds a lot like the US except the elite US girls often have a rotational harem. But to say that they don't need men is a misapprehension. Without their father's finances, without the constant adulation from the men they spurn, they'd by knocked down many notches. They rely on them as employers, who provide ladders for them to climb. It's not men they're OK without, it's often steady sex or sex altogether. A complex like this often goes with attachment issues.One thing I've noticed in China is that the more attractive and upper class a girl looks, the less likely she is to have a boyfriend, or at least be seen with one in public.
Ugly women and fat women here are nearly always holding hands with some skinny normal looking dude. Hot middle class and upper class women on the other hand are commonly by themselves or with their girl friends. It's especially true if they're not only hot but also make an effort to look feminine with cute hairstyles, makeup, and actually shaving their legs and armpits, something most Chinese women do not do.
I suppose it makes sense though. Upper class hot women have everything they want already. Their daddy spoils them so they don't need a guy for money and they're showered with attention and validation from both genders, lust from men and envy from women. What would they date a guy for? Going shopping with daddy's money, gossiping on QQ, and posting mundane details of their daily lives and their random, meaningless thoughts on Weibo are far more appealing to them than being in a romantic relationship with a man. Maybe they'll have the occasional fling with some young guy of model quality looks.
These are China's "leftover women" lol.