How much is it the American guys fault for the way american

[chanta76]

Way American women are?

My question is ...it takes two to tango. I really think the way American women came out it's partly because of American men . American men enable this to happen. So how much is American guys responsible for this behavior?

If let say All American men started to ignore all that bitchy behavior and alone reward the behavior we want in a women will that help change some of the stuff. and also what if American guys started marching and protesting that american women should go back to traditional values?

will that work?

[Adama]

There is no doubt there. Check out Sweden with their manginas. You'll see that even in the most feminist countries on earth, you can still have reasonable relationships with some of the women.

In the USA, things are different. Men here do not have any standards. They bend over backwards to excuse female behavior, using equality as the excuse for it.

I really do think most American men are idiots. They just happened to get lucky, and they are average and ordinary.

North American men willingly cede their authority to women. Then these men wonder why women treat them like crap.

There are men and there are women. When the gender roles are violated, the women become terrible b*tches, and the men become wussies. Both of them think that is how life is supposed to be, but neither is ever happy in their relationship. Unfortunately for men, their sex drive can often cloud their judgement, blinding them to the truth.

And you know what? Those men deserve everything they get from women. At some point if you tried to wake them up or even save them from themselves, they'd try to destroy you.

There is a remnant of American women who are tolerable. You just need to find one who grew up with her father around.

[Ghost]

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[Gadfly]

Without absolving American women themselves from blame or responsibility, it is mostly American men's fault that their women are garbage.

They abandoned God, twisted His truth, and now they're getting it. No, I don't have much sympathy for American men as a whole.

[GoingAwol]

I have a completely different take on things. I think women have always had more power than people give them credit for. "I have the p***y,so I make the rules" has always been a reality but women did submit to their husbands in the past despite their power. What do I mean by all of this? Women have the power to influence male behavior, moreso than mens influence on womens behavior. Men are hardwired to take care of women and want to make them happy. And men will do whatever it takes to be attractive to women. Case and point, I was watching one of those prison shows where they were interviewing a gangster that was locked up for murder. He said he joined the gang to get women.what does that tell you? It is a representation of the dating scene today. Women like assholes so men become assholes to get women. Womens power is completely unchecked these days... We need a strong patriarchal religion to balance things out.

[chanta76]

Going Awol,

I kind of have to agree. Guys are motivated by p***y sometimes. I mean case in point some of the guys here want to go abroad mostly because of p***y.

I think it's combination of having strong religion that is patriarchy and having men taking responsibility and not kowtowing to women just because of p***y. But that's not likely going to happen.

[Gadfly]

Well, yes, women have a kind of natural power which they can leverage effectively. But then, so do men. That's always been true in whatever time or place, as God created the sexes, each with different qualities to complement the other. If women control men, it's because the men allowed it, and it's the latter's fault.

[fschmidt]

%100. Women have no moral agency. Every moral failure of a culture happens because men fail.

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[Moretorque]

%100. Women have no moral agency. Every moral failure of a culture happens because men fail.

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Why do you think our rulers do what they do ?, they know this.

Most of it is really the women's fault, flat out women are shallow and have no foresight. They are the ones who wanted the nanny state for the most part and now 84% I was reading want to be stay at home moms.

It took 2 to make a mess of future generations planet like this and a women's lack of depth as in just being able to see what she can get for her own gene pool has lead to a lot of the terrible male behavior. All they have to do is say you're not going to make our children pay for this but they can only say my child because women pretty much hate each other and see each other as competition.

The males are just acting out for the a$$ for the most part.

[RickyRetardo]

A huge part.

American society has many problems, and no, women are not the cause of all of them. I agree--it takes two.

American society teaches both men and women to be greedy, superficial, callous, and borderline sociopathic.

America is in many ways a brutal society.

[RickyRetardo]

Women have no moral agency.

That's a completely delusional, almost psychotic belief. It's at odds with observable reality and if you opened your mind (or healed whatever is plaguing it) you'd probably notice you were mistaken pretty quick.

The majority of women are not psychopathic. Their moral principles may be flawed, but so are those of men.

I don't believe women are any more inherently amoral than men are. If you really look at history and the world around you, you'll find plenty of women doing great moral acts, plenty of women committing unspeakable crimes, and the same for men.

[Cornfed]

Women have no moral agency.

That's a completely delusional, almost psychotic belief. It's at odds with observable reality and if you opened your mind (or healed whatever is plaguing it) you'd probably notice you were mistaken pretty quick.

The majority of women are not psychopathic.

Female behavior is not identical to that of male psychopaths because they do have ingrained goals other than their own immediate gratification, but they are in fact intrinsically amoral, and it is easy to explain the evolutionary basis for this.