How many of you have daughters?

[argaluza]

http://www.womeninscience.co.uk/emily-jones.php

A good example of how a daughter will develop in a western feminist country.

Yeah, you can tell she is a horrible slut just by looking at her. In this case she would also appear to be having lots of money thrown at her just for having a v****a - money that could have been going to men discovering stuff that would revolutionize human life.

Hahaha - a lot of you fuckers need psychiatric help, a move to another country isn't going to help your inner hatred for the opposite gender.

If we threw all the money in the world at you do you think you could do a better job than young Emily Jones because you have testicles and a penis? I know I couldn't.

[Cornfed]

If we threw all the money in the world at you do you think you could do a better job than young Emily Jones because you have testicles and a penis?

Of course. What exactly has she done anyway? The project described sounds childish and stupid, and if anything comes of it at all it will probably be the drugging of gifted boys into dronehood at an earlier age. Even if she were not a worthless bimbo and were capable of contributing anything to science, she should still not be there for reasons I explain here:
viewtopic.php?t=21977

[Yohan]

1 -
'Nowadays feminism' never heard of it, is that something you have made up?

2 -
Show me any feminist movement who are against 'free speech' and are for curtailing men's rights? It is in your head, I promise you.

3 -
Some women are badly behaved and rude.

Some men think 'masculinity' and being an 'alpah male' is about domineering other men, being rude and using their fists or superior strength and size to get their own way, it is not my view of 'masculinity' at all but some men think it is.


4 -
Again, that description of feminism isn't to be found anywhere except in your angry little mind. Find me that definition of 'feminism'.

5 -
It is not, it is about women having the same freedoms and opportunities as men, that is all.


6 -
If a man wants a homemaker as a wife (and there is nothing wrong with that at all) who will do as she is told (again, nothing wrong with that) then there are millions of women in lots of countries where he will find what he is looking for.

1 -
'Nowadays feminism' exists or do you want to explain me feminism was a movement of the past and does not exist anymore? I would be happy to hear that the feminist movement does not exist anymore, but unfortunately it does and it is totally different from what feminism has been in the past.

2 -
The feminist movement is openly against free speech and favors censorship. Try to post a comment in any feminist-friendly website, politely written, to discuss anything concerning men's rights. Such a comment will be deleted within a few minutes and the user will be banned.

Your pro-feminist comments are published within Winston's website, unedited. Same for sure in another 'Men Going Their Own Way' MGTOW-website, where I have moderation rights.

3 -
Not only some women behave rude, there are many, too many, and their behavior is openly tolerated by biased laws in Western society. Women have clearly more rights in many aspects than men, check out false rape allegations, divorce rulings, father's rights, paternity fraud, but also legal problems about lenient punishment concerning criminal women and many other issues.

4 -
I am not angry, why should I?
I left the European feminist society long time ago, living as an European man in Asia, married since over 30 years and take care of my Asian wife, 2 daughters and 1 fosterdaughter as good as I can. My wife needs not to work and my 3 daughters are university educated.

Who needs feminism anyway? It's a movement for male feminists and misandrist losers. Check out about Hugo Schwyzer for example.

5 -
I do not know about any regulation in Western countries which says men can do this or that, but women cannot.
Western women have already the same freedoms and opportunities as men. The problem is they want more than equality.

6 -
Yes, correct, there are millions of women in many countries who are not interested in feminism. This is the reason why this website and others which are promoting Men's Rights exist and why they are highly supportive to international and interracial dating.

[Yohan]

If we threw all the money in the world at you do you think you could do a better job than young Emily Jones ....

....What exactly has she done anyway?

This is a good and valid question. What has she done so far?
I read only something about her future project. She is obviously a psychiatrist researching something about children.

I also wonder if there is any website, called 'Men in Science' or at least 'People in Science'.
Why is there an award existing in UK for medical research only for female medical doctors? Who pays for this organization? Only women? Who pays for UNESCO? Only women? I do not think so.

http://www.womeninscience.co.uk/emily-jones.php

I will monitor autonomic activity by measuring heart rate and perspiration during social learning tasks in infants who have older siblings with autism

OK, I have no idea, for what this should be good for, but I suggest, finish your reseach and show up with your results - you should not expect any awards even before you are starting your project.

[argaluza]

1 -
'Nowadays feminism' exists or do you want to explain me feminism was a movement of the past and does not exist anymore? I would be happy to hear that the feminist movement does not exist anymore, but unfortunately it does and it is totally different from what feminism has been in the past.

'Nowadays Feminism' is something you have made up from the top of your head, show me an article or a website that promotes 'Nowadays Feminism'.

2 -
The feminist movement is openly against free speech and favors censorship. Try to post a comment in any feminist-friendly website, politely written, to discuss anything concerning men's rights. Such a comment will be deleted within a few minutes and the user will be banned.

So, the only place where feminists censor are on internet forums? Can you find any feminist movement with a manifesto that wants to censor free speech and mens rights? Most forums won't let you post what you want. Except this one.

Your pro-feminist comments are published within Winston's website, unedited. Same for sure in another 'Men Going Their Own Way' MGTOW-website, where I have moderation rights.

I am a member of a boxing forum that has strong censorship in regards posting - it proves nothing except the vast majority of online forums have heavy censorship. Now if you can find an online article or manifesto of a feminist movement promoting an anti-male agenda or curtailing free speech - I bet you can't.

3 -
Not only some women behave rude, there are many, too many, and their behavior is openly tolerated by biased laws in Western society. Women have clearly more rights in many aspects than men, check out false rape allegations, divorce rulings, father's rights, paternity fraud, but also legal problems about lenient punishment concerning criminal women and many other issues.

Yep, women have the upper hand in the courts, men have the upper hand in the workplace and are still in the vast majority of sitting in the seats that count. One isn't better than the other, we need equality.

4 -
I am not angry, why should I?
I left the European feminist society long time ago, living as an European man in Asia, married since over 30 years and take care of my Asian wife, 2 daughters and 1 fosterdaughter as good as I can. My wife needs not to work and my 3 daughters are university educated.

I am sure you are not going to encourage your daughters to marry some overbearing bully who they have to be at their beck and call because they have a package between their legs?

Who needs feminism anyway? It's a movement for male feminists and misandrist losers. Check out about Hugo Schwyzer for example.

Obviously feminism is still necessary because there are people like you and Cornfed about. It is a sad state of affairs that we still need it in the 21st century, I agree.

5 -
I do not know about any regulation in Western countries which says men can do this or that, but women cannot.
Western women have already the same freedoms and opportunities as men. The problem is they want more than equality.

Show me anywhere where women want more than men. I bet you can't.

6 -
Yes, correct, there are millions of women in many countries who are not interested in feminism. This is the reason why this website and others which are promoting Men's Rights exist and why they are highly supportive to international and interracial dating.

If a man is wanting to date interracially because they misguided, fetishised ideas about the 'non-feminised' women he is seeking then I feel sorry for the poor women he is chasing.

[Yohan]

Hahaha - a lot of you fuckers need psychiatric help, a move to another country isn't going to help your inner hatred for the opposite gender.

Please feel free to enjoy free speech.

FYI, if any men's rights advocate posts the same sentence on any feminist-friendly website, it would be deleted immediately and the user will be banned.

Your comment is plainly wrong BTW, as I am living already in a foreign country.

[argaluza]

Hahaha - a lot of you fuckers need psychiatric help, a move to another country isn't going to help your inner hatred for the opposite gender.

Please feel free to enjoy free speech.

FYI, if any men's rights advocate posts the same sentence on any feminist-friendly website, it would be deleted immediately and the user will be banned.

Your comment is plainly wrong BTW, as I am living already in a foreign country.

I was quoting Cornfed, not you. Besides, I am quite aware that some of you have made it past passport control to spread your prehistoric ideas with the woman you share your bed with.

Am I not entitled to free speech?

[Yohan]

I was quoting Cornfed, not you. Besides, I am quite aware that some of you have made it past passport control to spread your prehistoric ideas with the woman you share your bed with.
Am I not entitled to free speech?

It is irrelevant if you quote Cornfed or me, we are very different from each other - we are not twins - but we are sitting somehow in the same boat.

You sound like a single mother, no one available to share your bed with except your daughter and maybe a cat, right?
You sound so bitter, are you living of welfare receiving food coupons?
I wonder if you have ever been outside of your hometown, not to talk about overseas travel.

In this forum you are entitled to free speech, I am not the administrator nor do I have moderation rights, but I can say, Winston is deeply into free speech. Maybe you could give us any idea where we can find feminist-friendly forums which are also respecting free speech and not only when it fits them.

To take care of a family as a husband and father since over 30 years is for you prehistoric?

[argaluza]

It is irrelevant if you quote Cornfed or me, we are very different from each other - we are not twins - but are all sitting somehow in the same boat.

If you feel the cap fits then you are entitled to wear it.

You sound like a single mother, no one available to share your bed with except your daughter and maybe a cat, right?

Erm.. no. You are the one who is threatened by women and are living in fear of 'Nowadays Feminism' lol!

I wonder if you have ever been outside of your hometown, not to talk about overseas travel.

Educated to masters level and lived in seven countries, how about that?

In this forum you are entitled to free speech, I am not the administrator nor do I have moderation rights, but I can say, Winston is deeply into free speech. Maybe you could give us any idea where we can find feminist-friendly forums which are also respecting free speech and not only when it fits them.

Find them yourself, I am not in the business of baiting feminists. Couldn't come up with any links or websites which advocate hatred for men or the abolition of free speech?

To take care of a family as a husband and father since over 30 years is for you prehistoric?

So what? You do what I do? Why do you think you deserve a medal?

[Yohan]

@argaluza

Thanks for your comments, they are for sure a strong encouragement to look for a foreign wife and even more, to consider relocation in a foreign country for Western men.

The best way to stay happy and healthy as a Western man and not being mentally and financially broken is for sure not to have anything to do with feminists.

Thanks for proving my point.

[argaluza]

Are you going to prove any of your points Yohan? Like the outrageous claims that feminists want to curtail free speech and are anti-men? There must be at least one organisation who states this?

That's right, thought not, it is all in your head.

[Winston]

If "women can do anything that men can do", then:

- How come every time I get my car's oil changed, it's always a man doing it? Never a woman?
- How come when I get a car fixed, it's always a man doing it?
- How come when I see construction workers working outside, they are always men? Why aren't women building houses too?
- How come when I call the plumber, it's always a man that comes?
- How come when there is a strange sound in the dark outside, women always want men to check it out? Why don't they check it out themselves?
- How come there has never been a great female general that has won great military battles against all odds, such as Napoleon's masterful victory at the Battle of Austerlitz? Or Alexander the Great's epic victory at the Battle of Gautemala against a Persian army 4 or 5 times the size of his?
- How come great inventors, painters, and composers throughout history have always been men? Where are the female Mozarts, DaVincis and Einsteins?
- How come professional sports divide men and women into different leagues? Even pro tennis is divided by gender. If men and women were the same, why aren't they playing together on the same teams? Why aren't football teams co-ed?
- Why aren't women going into front lines in battle in the army?
- Why don't women run into burning buildings to try to save lives?

See, we can turn all this around, are most military dictators female? How about people who commit mass global genocide like Hitler? What gender would that be? Rapists and child molesters? The vast majority of them female? Do you think you are braver than Valentina Tereshkova?

Simpler question? Do you think the captain of that Korean ferry abandoned his ship because of his gender or because he is an arsehole deficient in decency?

You dodged my questions and points. And you refuted nothing. Quit the red herrings.

Yeah there are bad men and good men too. So what? There has never been a great female military strategist or leader.

You have not proven that men and women are fundamentally the same.

1. How come in America you are allowed to say "women are smarter than men" but you can't say "men are smarter than women" without being labeled a sexist pig? Why does "equality" have such double standards?

I have never heard a woman say (seriously) that women are smarter than men.

I have. The liberal media says it too. Want to see their articles that claim this? Sitcoms preach that too such as Home Improvement.

2. How come husbands have to call their wives "The Boss" in America? Why are wives in charge by default due to their gender? How is that equal?

Did you call your wife 'The Boss'? Hahaha, funny!

I don't have a wife. But I've heard many husbands call their wives the boss. Why are you dodging the questions?

3. Why can't you fight for equality without hating men and without destroying your natural femininity and without turning yourselves into monsters who hate love, romance and flirtation?

Because you are mistaking bad behaviour and ill brought up people for 'feminism'.

Feminism is just a word. No one here is disputing that AW have bad behavior.

4. Why can't you fight for equality without becoming masculine, and without detesting the qualities of beauty, grace, class, elegance and femininity in women, thus making yourself unattractive in the process? Women in the 1970's were able to stand for equality without losing their femininity and beauty (e.g. Charlies Angels) so why can't you?

You must have had your eyes shut wearing ear plugs in Russia. Did you ever socialise with the old ladies when you were there?

Yes I have. Why do you ask?

You aren't making any valid arguments here and you are dodging questions. I don't think you are a serious truth seeker.

[Yohan]

Are you going to prove any of your points Yohan? Like the outrageous claims that feminists want to curtail free speech and are anti-men? There must be at least one organisation who states this?

That's right, thought not, it is all in your head.

http://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/ulr/art ... ew/484/352

It might be helpful for you to study this document to answer your questions. Men are badly treated within a feminist society, they are 2nd class citizens.

You might also read late Valerie Solanas manifesto and refer to comments from Linda Hirshman to understand better what feminism thinks about men and family.

http://equalitycanada.com/
Some actual cases how men are treated in Western countries.

[argaluza]

You dodged my questions and points. And you refuted nothing. Quit the red herrings.

Yeah there are bad men and good men too. So what? There has never been a great female military strategist or leader.

You have not proven that men and women are fundamentally the same.

I didn't dodge the questions, they just don't prove anything, and where did I say that men and women are the same? I haven't.

I have. The liberal media says it too. Want to see their articles that claim this? Sitcoms preach that too such as Home Improvement.

Well, I haven't, because it is true for you, it isn't true for everyone - therefore - it can't be used as 'fact'

I don't have a wife. But I've heard many husbands call their wives the boss. Why are you dodging the questions?

Because they are stupid questions Winston! I have never called my wife the boss, nor has my father to my mother - you are just using personal opinion and experiences and making out they are universal facts.

Feminism is just a word. No one here is disputing that AW have bad behavior.

So, if feminism is just a 'word' and not a philosophy that is out to damage men, why are you all in a tizzle about it?

Yes I have. Why do you ask?

Then you know feminism and feminity can co-exist - like it did in the old Soviet Union.

You aren't making any valid arguments here and you are dodging questions. I don't think you are a serious truth seeker.

I remember you from your jaunts in the Soviet Union, you made yourself out to be a downtrodden 'nice guy' looking for a wife who will love him for his inner qualities and all you turned out to be is a whore mongerer - you have a fuzzy relationship with the 'truth' yourself, you have turned out to be a big disappointment man.

[argaluza]

http://epubs.utah.edu/index.php/ulr/art ... ew/484/352

It might be helpful for you to study this document to answer your questions. Men are badly treated within a feminist society, they are 2nd class citizens.

So you get your academic references from a Mormon university, let me LOL there for a minute.

You might also read late Valerie Solanas manifesto and refer to comments from Linda Hirshman to understand better what feminism thinks about men and family.

Individuals do not make a movement.

http://equalitycanada.com/
Some actual cases how men are treated in Western countries.

However, their voices are being heard and things are being done about it, what is the problem?