What do with think of the Azov people?

[Cornfed]

I mean the Ukrainian Nazi faction. I don't have any issues with Nazis or nationalists of course, but it seems that these particular Nazis are misguided for various related reasons.

1. They allied themselves with the globalist Judeo-klepto-anal regime, presumably hoping to turn on it once the Russians were driven out. That would never have worked.
2. They wanted to impose a Ukrainian nationalist regime over the whole of the arbitrary geographical area known as Ukraine to the detriment of other ethnicities living there. This seems unreasonable and unnecessary. If they were willing to give some territory I would support them.
3. They seem to have a genuine and generally unreciprocated hatred of Russians. Historically this may be somewhat understandable, but it is not terribly helpful going forward.

It is a shame really. A few misjudgments turned what should have been a positive movement into a negative.

[Gali]

I mean the Ukrainian Nazi faction. I don't have any issues with Nazis or nationalists of course, but it seems that these particular Nazis are misguided for various related reasons.

1. They allied themselves with the globalist Judeo-klepto-anal regime, presumably hoping to turn on it once the Russians were driven out. That would never have worked.
2. They wanted to impose a Ukrainian nationalist regime over the whole of the arbitrary geographical area known as Ukraine to the detriment of other ethnicities living there. This seems unreasonable and unnecessary. If they were willing to give some territory I would support them.
3. They seem to have a genuine and generally unreciprocated hatred of Russians. Historically this may be somewhat understandable, but it is not terribly helpful going forward.

It is a shame really. A few misjudgments turned what should have been a positive movement into a negative.

I think you should become a fan of them and not be a traitor to your fellow nazi.

[Cornfed]

I think you should become a fan of them and not be a traitor to your fellow nazi.

Yeah that's a reasonable point, but I just don't think they are useful in bringing about a positive conclusion to this conflict.

[Outcast9428]

I'm worried that the longer this war goes on the more difficult it will be to create a peace agreement. The longer it goes on, the more potential for atrocities to occur that makes the two sides hate each other and disrupt a peaceful end.

Our politicians who seem to be intentionally disrupting the peace process and making this war drag on and on are monsters who should be tried for crimes against humanity.

[shawnberwick]

I mean the Ukrainian Nazi faction. I don't have any issues with Nazis or nationalists of course, but it seems that these particular Nazis are misguided for various related reasons.

1. They allied themselves with the globalist Judeo-klepto-anal regime, presumably hoping to turn on it once the Russians were driven out. That would never have worked.
2. They wanted to impose a Ukrainian nationalist regime over the whole of the arbitrary geographical area known as Ukraine to the detriment of other ethnicities living there. This seems unreasonable and unnecessary. If they were willing to give some territory I would support them.
3. They seem to have a genuine and generally unreciprocated hatred of Russians. Historically this may be somewhat understandable, but it is not terribly helpful going forward.

It is a shame really. A few misjudgments turned what should have been a positive movement into a negative.

2 and 3 is not surprising for anyone who has spent much time in ethno-nationalist spaces online. Ethno-nationalism is a fundamental part of National Socialist ideology, ethno-nationalism of course being different to race nationalism.

Something I've noticed is that Westerner White men who go far-right or 3rd positionist tend to be race nationalists, whereas Eastern European white men who go far-right or 3rd positionist tend to be ethno-nationalists. Eastern European ethno-nationalists would be pissed if men of other ethnicities married their women, perhaps not as much as if they married men of other races but they would still be pissed.

I've come to the conclusion that whilst the far-left defeat themselves through ideological purity spiralling, the far-right/3rd positionists do so through race and ethnicity purity spiralling. Centrists know better IMO, they are pragmatists, and that's why they have the power.

[Yohan]

I'm worried that the longer this war goes on the more difficult it will be to create a peace agreement. The longer it goes on, the more potential for atrocities to occur that makes the two sides hate each other and disrupt a peaceful end.
Our politicians who seem to be intentionally disrupting the peace process and making this war drag on and on are monsters who should be tried for crimes against humanity.

There is some truth with that, of course USA is not really much interested in peace in Ukraine, why should they....
USA does not care about Ukraine, but cares a lot about Russia and of course wants to make Russia weaker as a military power.

It is a fact, that Russia was invading Ukraine (a total miscalculation about how this invasion will work out) and as longer as this war is going on more and more Russian soldiers will die and more Russian military equipment will be destroyed.

This war might go on over many months more, even years, considering that Ukraine is as large as France and has an Ukrainian population of 40+ million people and are willing to fight it out

Russia is very large considering its land size, but it is rather underpopulated with its 145 million people.
EU alone are over 440 million, and add to it UK and of course also USA, which is over 330 million people.

Russian economic output is also low, not more than Italy.

Consider that EU/USA/UK and some other countries are fully supporting Ukraine with just everything these 40+ million people need - they supply food, medicine, weapons, try to cut off the Russian economy with sanctions, take care of millions of refugees etc.

If this war continues, for sure after a while, Russia will end up not as a winner, not as a loser either, but will be much weaker and poorer than before the war.

Expect a lot of dead young men, a lot of military related materials destroyed, a lot of ordinary people poorer than ever....
This will take a while, but it is just a question of time - and likely some political influencial Russian people including Putin will also be sent into retirement.

About Ukraine, it will also end up after this war in many years of poverty, considering destruction of entire cities. To bring the entire country back to an acceptable economic standard is not a bad business for Western construction companies, not a bad business for Western companies looking for a place with cheap labor not too far away as a replacement for factories which they operate now in China....