On people's appeasement of hostile reactions from women

mattyman · Post by **mattyman** » July 24th, 2013, 8:37 am

There seem to be too many women here, whereby, even if you just say hi to them, they look at you as if you've asked sexual favours, made an improper suggestion or as if you've crossed some kind of boundary, or in some cases, even react aggressively. For example, sticking their nose-up then texting frantically, scowling at you like an attack dog, or in some of the worst cases cringing and swearing, reactions that seem well out of proportion (the latter have only happened in bars and clubs). My case is, some of thoses reactions have even happened in response to just saying good-morning on passing. Well out of proportion. I know this has been moaned about a hell of a lot on here, but that's not my point.

My point is, if you try to point out to others how unreasonable or out-of-proportion it is, how you don't think it's justified, or how women from more 'normal' backgrounds don't react like that nearly, if ever as often as the aformentioned, people will (what are termed 'mangina's') will often go out of their way to DEFEND such behaviour and belittle and ad-hominem attack you. They will go out of their way to JUSTIFY it or find something to use AGAINST you. Does this sound familiar?

Take for-instance Spanish girls that I've met over the years. I've never had any of that from ANY of them, same for the Russian girls I've met. To be fair, I am making comparisons to my home town, which is exceptionally bad, even by UK standards of approachability, I'd even argue it's worse than London in that respect (at least there, there are SOME women you can strike-up casual chit-chat with, without getting a cold, negative, creeped-out, how-dare-you talk to me vibe, and I've NEVER experienced open hostility). That's a different topic.

My point is, how ABNORMAL things are in the respect of freindliness and approachability/bitchiness in my hometown, yet if you try to point this out, they STILL try to find ways to JUSTIFY the behaviour and find things to use against you and shame you, and this is by people who've never left! People here are so insular and so OBLIVIOUS to how abnormal the level unapproachability, stuck-up-ism and un-friendliness really is. It drives me round the bend.

I wonder why? Ignorance? Could it be that whenever I try to draw attention to this, people feel that it's an implicit criticism of them? Could some people have a chip on their shoulder and feel the need to have someone to look down on? Or could there be an element of needing to put the woman in the better light, and think that such reactions are justified?

Just to recap, my complaints are about how people, if in attempt to discuss such unpleasant, and out-of-proportion behaviour from females, try to find reasons to JUSTIFY it and find things to SHAME and BELITTLE me about, even if such behaviour is completely unacceptable and unjustified.

Johnny1975 · Post by **Johnny1975** » July 24th, 2013, 12:55 pm

I agree completely. There are a few possible reactions to someone like you (and me) who might bring up your point :

* Attempt to justify it as something that is no one's fault, just one of those things. Maybe she's had a bad day, that kind of bulls hit. No attempt to hold her accountable

* Acknowledgment of her bitchiness, but at the same time telling you to stop whining and get over it. That's rich. She's the bitch and you get criticised for mentioning it

* Speculation that it's probably something you said or the way you said it

I've always had the opinion that I don't really care that much if there are fu cked up people in the world, just as long as the number of them isn't great enough for such people to be found everywhere. But the problem is that it's an epidemic, they really are everywhere. That's what bothers me.

Contrarian Expatriate · July 24th, 2013, 1:00 pm

An American woman's presumption is that most men find them attractive until it becomes obvious that you are not.

This comes from the fabricated venerated status that women have in the Anglosphere so it is not going anywhere.

I pretty much ignore American women unless they prove to be kind or different from the norm.

Johnny1975 · Post by **Johnny1975** » July 24th, 2013, 3:43 pm

That's why when I'm on okcupid and I spot a western woman's fu cked up profile and I want to view it again for a laugh I hesitate because I'm thinking that if I look again she'll think it's because I like her. If only they knew.

That's why I think on dating profiles women should not know anything about who viewed them and when or how many times. They should also be made to talk about what they have to offer.

Jester · Post by **Jester** » July 24th, 2013, 7:03 pm

Johnny1975 wrote:They should also be made to talk about what they have to offer.

+1

One evening I had joined friends at an outdoor cafe table. One woman there jokingly asked me to find her a sugar daddy. I replied: "What do you have to offer?"

She looked stunned.

Johnny1975 · Post by **Johnny1975** » July 25th, 2013, 2:05 am

Jester wrote:
Johnny1975 wrote:They should also be made to talk about what they have to offer.
+1

One evening I had joined friends at an outdoor cafe table. One woman there jokingly asked me to find her a sugar daddy. I replied: "What do you have to offer?"

She looked stunned.

The few times when I've said to a female "impress me" or something to that effect, they say "i don't have to". Well of course you have to you stupid idiot, otherwise I won't be interested. It's amazing how they think that by existing they've done their bit.