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I think it's best to just get a hooker once or twice a week and leave it at that.

After all, aren't they all after the $$$?

No they aren't. Stop making that stereotype. There is such a thing as love. People have it. Some couples are together because they have a real bond and intimacy. That's what relationships used to be at least. But a real love like that is not easy to find, not even for celebrities.

But marriage is a sacred thing. I wouldn't make a lifelong vow if I knew I might not be able to keep it.

Honestly, newlife it can be cheaper. I was thinking the same thing. Especially since I am non-whte in Europe, I have tried to meet 'good women' for long relationships. It has been bad. I was thinking about possibly P4P and leave it at that. Once I get over the issue with paying girls money directly, I think it is cheaper and if I can go every now and then it is much cheaper investment.

Incorrect. Prostitutes are probably like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to a steak. It's mechanical with just the most basic satisfaction. There is no ego satisfaction that you can get a woman on your own and that she might like you for other reasons besides money. Besides that, condoms are a must and make sex virtually worthless. And last, if you believe in eastern religions, when you have sex with someone, a part of them becomes a part of you and vice versa, along with everyone they've ever slept with.

Adama wrote:Incorrect. Prostitutes are probably like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to a steak. It's mechanical with just the most basic satisfaction. There is no ego satisfaction that you can get a woman on your own and that she might like you for other reasons besides money. Besides that, condoms are a must and make sex virtually worthless. And last, if you believe in eastern religions, when you have sex with someone, a part of them becomes a part of you and vice versa, along with everyone they've ever slept with.

Okay, I agree. Most likely it will be like having sex with a robot. I agree that most likely (if you are careful) you can have sex without a condom and it is much better. Plus if you are with her (well at least non-American girls) you know she might like you for your character or personality trait about you. I think that I am not looking in the right places or country. I think I am just burnt about looking in Europe and I want to have a nice time with a person who likes me instead of the girls I talked too who played games.

-Tom

Why does it have to be a choice between marriage and prostitutes? Why not just have romantic relationships with girlfriends without getting married? Why not just let love bloom, last, and die out in its natural cycle? Why try to bind it with the artificial contract of marriage? It doesn't make sense.

Adama wrote:Incorrect. Prostitutes are probably like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to a steak. It's mechanical with just the most basic satisfaction.

You really can't make this claim unless you slept with many prostitutes; especially the ones who treat their work as a profession and have LEARNED the art of pleasing a man (i.e, BJ techniques, Prostate massage).

I can say that I have been in two long term relationships and the sex was not all that great and nothing was memorable apposed to ransom flings. From my recollection my x GFs would just lie on their backs and enjoy the pleasure, they were also very prudish (ie, no anal sex, no facials).

Adama wrote:There is no ego satisfaction that you can get a woman on your own and that she might like you for other reasons besides money.

I beg to differ. As a single man I can pay to have sex with 3-4 hot girls at once if I chose to, and for me that would boots my ego. Also I once paid for sex with a Kim Kardashian look alike and afterwords I had the unexpected ego boost that I had sex with such a good looking woman.

Regardless, sex is SEX no matter how you slice the cake. If you're bothered by the fact that you paid for sex up front then that's more of a MENTAL block that you have to work towards deconstructing because it's going to prevent you from having healthy sexual release and fun that you deserve as a human being.

Sure it sucks that in one way or another we all have to pay for something that should be free, but if you think about it, no woman can offer sex for free in a cut throat, hyper competitive environment where everything cost money. If we lived in a communal society in some closed off island things would be different.

Adama wrote:Besides that, condoms are a must and make sex virtually worthless.

My last GF who I dated for a year I used a condom each and every time. I can assure you the sex was not worthless.

That said, just because you have a "girlfriend" that does not automatically make her faithful and the sex better. For example, my x GF would always tell me about how her friends were cheating on their boyfriends; sure they are not having sex with other men on a commercial scale, but they were sleeping with other men on the side none the less.

Winston wrote:Why does it have to be a choice between marriage and prostitutes? Why not just have romantic relationships with girlfriends without getting married? Why not just let love bloom, last, and die out in its natural cycle? Why try to bind it with the artificial contract of marriage? It doesn't make sense.

Exactly. I think when guys start having feelings for women they want to control and own women like a doll, especially when that woman is the mother of your child.

I admit, I have been there myself in my old days, but now I could give a rats a** about a woman's vagina; and the idea is just ridiculous to obsess over one vagina when there are many unused vaginas all around.

NorthAmericanguy wrote:

Adama wrote:Incorrect. Prostitutes are probably like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to a steak. It's mechanical with just the most basic satisfaction.

You really can't make this claim unless you slept with many prostitutes; especially the ones who treat their work as a profession and have LEARNED the art of pleasing a man (i.e, BJ techniques, Prostate massage).

I can say that I have been in two long term relationships and the sex was not all that great and nothing was memorable apposed to ransom flings. From my recollection my x GFs would just lie on their backs and enjoy the pleasure, they were also very prudish (ie, no anal sex, no facials).

Adama wrote:There is no ego satisfaction that you can get a woman on your own and that she might like you for other reasons besides money.

I beg to differ. As a single man I can pay to have sex with 3-4 hot girls at once if I chose to, and for me that would boots my ego. Also I once paid for sex with a Kim Kardashian look alike and afterwords I had the unexpected ego boost that I had sex with such a good looking woman.

Regardless, sex is SEX no matter how you slice the cake. If you're bothered by the fact that you paid for sex up front then that's more of a MENTAL block that you have to work towards deconstructing because it's going to prevent you from having healthy sexual release and fun that you deserve as a human being.

Sure it sucks that in one way or another we all have to pay for something that should be free, but if you think about it, no woman can offer sex for free in a cut throat, hyper competitive environment where everything cost money. If we lived in a communal society in some closed off island things would be different.

Adama wrote:Besides that, condoms are a must and make sex virtually worthless.

My last GF who I dated for a year I used a condom each and every time. I can assure you the sex was not worthless.

That said, just because you have a "girlfriend" that does not automatically make her faithful and the sex better. For example, my x GF would always tell me about how her friends were cheating on their boyfriends; sure they are not having sex with other men on a commercial scale, but they were sleeping with other men on the side none the less.

What you said, NA Guy. You're right. Black man from NNJ Erasmus I mean Ty Diggs is right about condoms too.

NorthAmericanguy wrote:

Adama wrote:Incorrect. Prostitutes are probably like a peanut butter and jelly sandwich compared to a steak. It's mechanical with just the most basic satisfaction.

You really can't make this claim unless you slept with many prostitutes; especially the ones who treat their work as a profession and have LEARNED the art of pleasing a man (i.e, BJ techniques, Prostate massage).

I can say that I have been in two long term relationships and the sex was not all that great and nothing was memorable apposed to ransom flings. From my recollection my x GFs would just lie on their backs and enjoy the pleasure, they were also very prudish (ie, no anal sex, no facials).

Adama wrote:There is no ego satisfaction that you can get a woman on your own and that she might like you for other reasons besides money.

I beg to differ. As a single man I can pay to have sex with 3-4 hot girls at once if I chose to, and for me that would boots my ego. Also I once paid for sex with a Kim Kardashian look alike and afterwords I had the unexpected ego boost that I had sex with such a good looking woman.

Regardless, sex is SEX no matter how you slice the cake. If you're bothered by the fact that you paid for sex up front then that's more of a MENTAL block that you have to work towards deconstructing because it's going to prevent you from having healthy sexual release and fun that you deserve as a human being.

Sure it sucks that in one way or another we all have to pay for something that should be free, but if you think about it, no woman can offer sex for free in a cut throat, hyper competitive environment where everything cost money. If we lived in a communal society in some closed off island things would be different.

Adama wrote:Besides that, condoms are a must and make sex virtually worthless.

My last GF who I dated for a year I used a condom each and every time. I can assure you the sex was not worthless.

That said, just because you have a "girlfriend" that does not automatically make her faithful and the sex better. For example, my x GF would always tell me about how her friends were cheating on their boyfriends; sure they are not having sex with other men on a commercial scale, but they were sleeping with other men on the side none the less.

I would tend to agree with this. Some P4P girls give you better sex than your girlfriend does. Commitment does NOT equal better sex. Being with a new girl you have the hots for, creates an adrenaline rush that a stable girlfriend doesn't give you.

Some pros are mechanical, yes, but not all. Some give you a wonderful experience too. People should not generalize. There are many individual differences and variations in this. It is not all black and white.

Regarding condoms, if you use one of those high quality ones, it will not feel like there's a condom on or diminish the sensitivity of it.

But the ones in the Philippines usually suck and are low quality that take away the sensitivity.