I do not think it is worth telling people who I am because most guys here do not vibe with me. Actually I should not even be here in the forum as I am not a big fan of it.Winston wrote: ↑September 1st, 2021, 2:20 pmOh yes I remember who you are now. Thanks for introducing me to Alex. Sorry I forgot who you were even though you PMed me.Gali wrote: ↑September 1st, 2021, 6:21 amYou know me. You just forgot it. For example I am the one who introduced Alex to you because I knew you have a lot of weird things in common.Winston wrote: ↑September 1st, 2021, 2:33 amCan you give some examples from your life? If you care to do so? Why haven't you posted anything about your life story or background?
Could this mysterious force that repels people in us, be responsible for why we are not able to get a social clique in America like normal people do?
If you think about it, the odds of finding a social clique by chance are very remote. So most people cannot be using chance to find a social clique. It must be destiny or some organizing principle in the matrix that we cannot see, which brings people together into a social clique. Not a random process.
Kind of like how people always walk in and out of Walmart or a supermarket in a steady flow, because by chance they should all come at the same time sometimes, but they never do. For example, if everyone who wanted to go at Walmart, came at 3pm on a given day, it would be blocked and jammed for that time period. But that never happens, because some organizing principle in the matrix that we can't see arranges everything so there is always a flow and balance. Same with the subway or cars on a highway. They never all come at the same time except during rush hour.
Do you think we repel people because of a curse in us, or we are just on a different frequency than everyone else and people sense that so it makes them repulsed and want to avoid us?
It can't be about looks because many men who look average or ugly can still make a lot of friends and find a long term relationship. There has to be some intangible factor or force we cannot see or quantify, something that is very real and consistent, but cannot be measured or touched. So you can't blame something superficial like looks. Some people are liked for no reason and others are disliked for no reason.
As I am not that much into magical thinking I have actually only one reasonable explanation. That is that we are determined to do and be whatever we are. That is there is no free will. Things just happen.
On a lower level people work with patterns that seem reasonable to them. I try it more with science some try it more with magical thinking.
You can come up with a lot of psychological explanations. You said it in the past that you did not want to be a truth seeker. You wanted to be happy but things have their own flow.
We are just Atoms in the Matrix doing what they are predetermined to do.
On a lower level as said before we have the illusion of explanatation. I from a scientific view. You more from the magical view.
Like you I was also between cultures. My theory is that if you are confronted with situations like that it can trigger a truth seeker trait. Then you become addicted to find out the workings of the matrix because you feel something is wrong you do not fit there. That can make you anti social as you no longer want to go with the flow. You become weirder and weirder.
Until I guess till you find people who have similar weird traits.
Like you I am also a bit interested in religions specially muslim because I come from that background though I am an Atheist and living in Turkey now. So I think it is relevant to know a bit about the culture and history of your environment to have more understanding and with that more power.
Why don't you tell the forum who you are? Why the secret and anonymity?
Also, how come you are quick to answer me on the forum but when I text you on Whatsapp you ignore me most of the time? It's like you cannot tolerate debate on Whatsapp but here on the forum you're ok with it. Funny. lol
Alex said he flooded you with a ton of proof, evidence, and logic for intelligent design and why macroevolution is impossible, but he said you were overwhelmed and couldn't take it. lol. Is that so? lol
You call my views "magical thinking" but that's from the standpoint of materialistic science, which you take as the absolute truth and authority. If materialistic science is wrong, then you should change your terms. Before modern times, magical thinking was normal and just called nature and reality. So it depends on your reality. Perhaps you listen too much to Richard Dawkins types. Why are you so sure atheism and materialism are absolute truth? Do you consider that you may be wrong? I can guarantee you that there is more to reality than just the physical materialistic dimension. There's more than enough proof of that. Just because there are more dimensions than the physical does not mean it is "magical thinking".
You say me being a misfit was being between cultures. But that's only a small factor. Most Asian Americans in the US are well adjusted with good jobs and family and stable life. Not like me. So you can't blame it on race or culture. There has to be a deeper X factor here.
I do agree with you that free will is overrated and we have less free will than Americans think. However that doesn't mean free will doesn't exist. Since we are conscious and self-aware we must have some free will, at least a little.
You said we are just atoms that are predetermined. But then who does the determining? Randomness? If not, then you have to posit some sort of intelligent design or divine intelligence. If you don't wanna call that God, then what do you call it? A computer programmer running our simulation? An A.I. like in the movie The Matrix? It does seem that some form of A.I. is running things. Because God cannot be everywhere at once and do everything at once. Only an A.I. automated program can do that. Do you believe in the matrix theory? Clearly our bodies and brains and this universe is designed, not random. So the question is, who or what designed it? Have you pondered this question?
Plus chemicals alone cannot be self-aware or conscious. So if we are just chemicals, then why are we conscious or self-aware? Evolution has no explanation for that, because consciousness is not required in evolution. Many neurons and synapses and connections in the brain don't create consciousness, as atheist scientists claim. If that were true than the top supercomputer with the most internal connections would be conscious, but they are not. I don't think A.I. will ever be conscious or self-aware because A.I. people assume consciousness is created by a high number of synapses and connections in the brain. If they are wrong, then computers and A.I. will never be conscious as they expect.
The reason I did not answer you is because you did spamtext me. That is annoying and disrespectful. Additionally in AC I was in a different mode. I am now in Turkey so I have more time and things are more relaxed.
Yes Alex flooded me with a lot of stuff but he is biased. He unconsciously wants to prove his religion that is why he does not come from a reasonable perspective even he is quite intelligent. Plus he loses himself in some details nobody does care about.
I agreed that I was not able to think deeply in AC. The reason is because that is not why I went to AC. It is like some nerds talking about computers in a disco. It does not fit the environment. I was happy to even get my everday duties done.
I care more about the materialistic science because it broght meassurable results. The team magical thinking had their chance but not much came out of it. Like I said on a higher level I think science is also an illusion so probably I am kind of programmed to agree with it.
You love to speculate about what is outside of the matrix. I think it is quite a waste of time. You can not know anything about it. The energy you might spend for that might be better for your normal life but in the end you do not have a choice anyway. It is your programming.
You say stuff like pure chemicals can not be conscious without having evidence. You do speculate a lot about things you do not anything about.
Actually I think I would not even mind magical thinking if it is done in an artful way. One of the many problems are weird idosyncracies that make even interesting topics annoying. That is why I like self improvement. There you can work on your blind spots and bottle necks to make communication more effective and enjoyable. At least in theory.