MarcosZeitola wrote: ↑January 29th, 2016, 6:34 am
I believe a lot of people here would identify as somewhat traditional. Traditional in the sense that they would like their wives to be loyal, caring, virginal. Traditional in the sense that they have major issues with feminism. But in them we find a lot of vestiges of modern culture as well. The desire to bone a lot of women, for example. The frustration at not getting laid enough, rampant materialism, envy of more socially or sexually successful men. Also, selfishness, being oriented on material wealth, and of course still caring about what others thing of you to sometimes insane degrees.
The sad thing is, a lot of you faux-traditionalists are doing feminism's bidding. I see a lot of posters here who:
-would like for their wife to work, earn money, be independent
-are very self-centered and view a wife or girlfriend as essentially a commodity
-refuse to get married because "daddy government and feminism will steal my money"
-are not interested in or vehemently against raising a family
The same men complain about how "modern women suck", and wonder where "all the sweet girls have gone". What they fail to realize, IMO, is that they aren't the polar opposite of the modern female they would like to portray theirselves as; more often then not, they are her male counterpart. Her mirror image.
If you really want to flip off the status quo, free yourselves of the toxic mindset that has enslaved so many of your brothers, the best way to do it is not to do things half-assed. You either live a traditional life, or you don't. And don't complain about women being awful in whatever society you hail from, when you yourself aren't any better. The amount of hypocracy is staggering.
Most faux-tradionalists, if given the opportunity to bang Western sluts, would do so. They would no go out of their way to monger abroad, but monger around in their own home towns. Low sexual market value is what drives them to look for alternative measures, but their heart isn't truly in it. Religion, historical revisionism, obsessing over unimportant issues such as race and hatred born from intense envy of all those who succeeded where they failed, is what truly drives these men.
These guys like to paint an idyllic picture of themselves. They are noble "free thinkers", "independent souls" or "men's rights activists". Some call themselves "incel", or identify as "man going his own way". A common thread in their lives seems to be a lack of life experience, a lack of power and lack of any drive to make something of themselves. Another common ailment is the failure to ever put the blame with themselves, and a tendency to always blame third parties, whether it be "western women", "American government", "ZOG", "affirmative action", "feminism" or even their parents or hometown. It's never me, and always them. They can never help it, they are always the victim. A complete and utter lack of passion and the desire for genuine change or self-reflection complete this toxic mix for complete failure.
I believe faux-traditionalists are probably the worst and most pathetic group of men alive today, and certainly the most hypocritical. I would put them at the same level as male feminists and other "manginas" so despised by them. Because they are innately the same, and in denial over it.
American women, and Western women as a whole (who aren't as different from one another as HA would led you to believe because of the 'grass is always greener' principle) are often blamed for their mentality of wanting to have their cake and eat it too. A lot of Happier Abroaders, similarly, want to have their cake and eat it too. At the same time they seem unwilling to make any concessions. Unrealistic expectations meets a harsh reality and the whole thing comes crashing down. If you really want to be free from the cage of modernity, there are some demons left for you to slay. Some of the worst among those demons house in your own mind.
I have to agree about traditionalist vs. faux traditionalist.
Around 2016 was when I knew that even if a beautiful North American or Western European girl wanted me, I wouldn't be interested in her. Too independent, too Western, and too "free" to do whatever she wants.
Men who don't want children aren't traditional. Men who want their female to work aren't traditional.
Marriage is one of the best ways to lockdown a high quality girl for a long-term or hopefully permanent relationship.
1. Taking a girl's virginity
2. The girl is youthful enough to really bond
3. Marriage to the girl
Those are the three best ways to really get a girl truly won over for the long-term.
For example:
A 16 year old virgin girl will really bond with a guy if he's the first to take her virginity and then he marries her sometime afterwards.
Most modern men cannot accept the facts about youthful virgin girls because the Elites have engaged in indoctrination has been using the media as propaganda to normalize untraditional behavior. The weak "modern" men are often jealous of the men who are courageous and strong enough to only want one regardless of what the majority opinion is and what other people think or the weak "modern" men have been indoctrinated into denying reality. However, people have a conscious mind and a subconscious mind. It's easy to brainwash the conscious but the subconscious is much more difficult. Their inability to reconcile the two minds to determine what's true is why many weak men hate the better men, seek to bring other men down, get jealous or angry at traditional men, or they eventually snap after getting divorces, failed relationships, and getting cucked by women who they have been indoctrinated to pursue but their subconscious doesn't really want.
A 26 year old who has 6-8 partners that gets married to her current partner won't be able to bond with a man and she won't be able to truly be won over. She's a whore. A slut. It's idealistic and delusional for people to believe a whore is marriage material.
Most of history, these females were whores. Men had pride and self-respect and wouldn't marry a whore. They would do little for a whore. If a non-virgin became a partner for a guy, she would typically be bought as a slave market or taken as payment from people who couldn't pay their debt.
Females, especially virgin females, are very valuable commodities in certain cases. One mistake people make is genuinely considering a female equal in ability to a men. Humans, especially Males and Females, are not equal, and until the 1900s, everyone knew this.
Men are rational and logical. Women are more feeling and emotional.
Feminism and other toxic social movements undermine society and that's why most modern problems are the result of the Jews first using their propaganda to target the female population.
Also, any traditional person that's honest about biology and nature will admit that people cannot be expected to control their hormones, especially girls. When people first complete puberty or have all the noticeable signs of being a biological adult capable of reproduction is when for almost all of history, girls could be courted by older, single men.
The gender ratio in nature at birth is 105 males for every 95 females. This ratio means that men will always need to pursue younger females.
Traditional people look to history, nature, and facts for guidance.
Modern people look to the law for guidance.
Here's a fact. The law isn't something that exists for ethics, justice, or morals. The law exists to protect the interests of the people who wrote it or appease special interests. The law is one way that tradition has been undermined and destroyed by the ruling elites.
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