People Can Be so Cruel...

[sushiman]

I personally want to teach English, which won't work in places like the Philippines, but is an option in most other countries.

The only problem is that it seems like all of the sudden (according to places like Dave's ESL cafe) requirements for teachers in these countries is skyrocketing! So many places officially require 4 year degrees now to teach legally and some like Indonesia require specific degrees (English Lit or the like), and many people are saying you'll have to have a master's in some places to find work in a few years.

For guys like me who have a 2-year but never finished a 4-year, it gets disheartening. It almost seems like the secret is getting out and it's becoming so competitive.

First off Dave's is a psycho joint!! But you have probably already realized that.

I don't teach English but my understanding is that basically any warm body can get a job. I'm not suggesting you falsify your credentials but the fact is they just need a native speaker who is willing to travel. Get your resume nice, do whatever you feel comfortable doing, do interviews and find a business you trust, make a deal. In Korea for example there are hagwons (small private shops). If the owner believes in you you're in. Do good by them and they will do good by you, for the most part. Koreans are quite honest and honorable.

Anyhow just saying where there is a will there is a way. In Seoul I can call around and check a persons rep if you get a potential deal lined up. Some teachers hate KR by the way, there is China which has advantages but pay is lower. Good luck!

[manly5000]

My advice is, if you want to move to the Philippines and marry a Filipina and can't afford it just do it anyway. Find a Filipina online with a house and a business and marry her, its not as difficult as you think.

Say someone wanted to try to make this kind of thing happen... how exactly would you go about it? Are there certain key things to look for in profiles on DIA for instance? Or do you just keep chatting with more and more girls until one reveals herself to you?

I remember reading stories on here about how guys have had well-off asian women literally throw themselves at them, offering to bring them over and take care of them... suffice it to say nothing like this has happened to me yet LOL.

Its happened to me at least 3 times, 2 Filipinas and 1 Thai. First, you need to meet a lot of Asian women online, maybe one out of 500 will qualify. Women over the age of 30 with kids will be the most likely candidates. Just ask the women you chat with if they have a family business and if theres enough chemistry between you, you can make it work.

Cool thanks for the input. Not sure that it's what I want, especially since I don't want to get involved with a Single mother, but I know what to look for now. Thanks!!

[manly5000]

I personally want to teach English, which won't work in places like the Philippines, but is an option in most other countries.

The only problem is that it seems like all of the sudden (according to places like Dave's ESL cafe) requirements for teachers in these countries is skyrocketing! So many places officially require 4 year degrees now to teach legally and some like Indonesia require specific degrees (English Lit or the like), and many people are saying you'll have to have a master's in some places to find work in a few years.

For guys like me who have a 2-year but never finished a 4-year, it gets disheartening. It almost seems like the secret is getting out and it's becoming so competitive.

First off Dave's is a psycho joint!! But you have probably already realized that.

I don't teach English but my understanding is that basically any warm body can get a job. I'm not suggesting you falsify your credentials but the fact is they just need a native speaker who is willing to travel. Get your resume nice, do whatever you feel comfortable doing, do interviews and find a business you trust, make a deal. In Korea for example there are hagwons (small private shops). If the owner believes in you you're in. Do good by them and they will do good by you, for the most part. Koreans are quite honest and honorable.

Anyhow just saying where there is a will there is a way. In Seoul I can call around and check a persons rep if you get a potential deal lined up. Some teachers hate KR by the way, there is China which has advantages but pay is lower. Good luck!

Thank you, appreciate the input! I'll do whatever I have to do to get out... but the thought of having to wait years to finish a degree makes it hard to keep going sometimes LOL. I'll probably wind up getting a CELTA and going somewhere to teach, then finish the degree from abroad. Then go from there.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Actually I think its fear of success. Men fear you succeeding as it will put their decisions in doubt. Women fear you succeeding because men will believe the jig is up and men have a much wider array of options than NA women do.

+1

Ain't that the truth. I have found that I really can't be around married/divorced guys who have kids because they start to come off resentful and jealous as soon as they find out I'm single with no kids. They get mad at my carefree life and try to make me feel guilty about it as if I'm not living up to my potential or something.

[NorthAmericanguy]

Westerners were programmed since the 80s, to DEGRADE anything and everything they see. This is why certain foreign cultures degrade after a certain amount of time with western citizens in it.

Even westerner's DNA has been programmed to degrade. Ever see the western children born from the 90s and up? They're stupider, wimpier, fatter and weaker than ever before. Remember the 70s, where strong men and great women were born everyday?

Western people try to degrade everyone and everything. I haven't seen ANY other culture do that to its own people...

Just to add to that, Western men, in particular, have been programmed to make a woman the focal point of their lives. This is why after, say, 28, if you're still single people start to view you with suspicion.

[Falcon]

I have posted the same stuff in:

Prejudice Against Foreign Girlfriend
viewtopic.php?t=12397

It's not just foreign women. Many Americans look at you all weird if you even associate with foreign families, men, children, and what not.

So one day, I was just about to board a flight to Mexico City, and met a group of single American women in their 20's - all college students. Two were Korean Americans, and the rest were white. They were going on a typical touristy trip to Teotihuacan, Xochimilco, etc. They were easy to chat up at first, and we talked about school, our trip plans, and other topics. I told them I was going to visit a family in an ejido (ranch) in rural Veracruz, and pulled out some laminated photos of the family's relatives living up north. I showed them to one of the white American women.

Guess how she reacted.

From a bubbly friendliness to a sudden frown and scowl. "How do you know these people?"
"Oh, I just knew them in Tijuana. I easily make a lot of new friends in Mexico."
"Oh yeah?"
"Well, the family doesn't have any computers or mail services, so I'm doing them a favor by taking these pictures down. The mother hasn't seen her sons in years and has no idea what they look like now."
Then she says very flatly and sarcastically, "That's great."

She suddenly turns her back away. End of conversation. The way these women cut off their friendliness was so incredibly abrupt, and made no sense.

Despite the fact that they were willing to tour around Mexico, they were disgusted by the fact that I would be deeply involved with the poor, peasant underclass.

Of course, I didn't bother to tell them that I even had a significant other in Mexico, let alone show them pictures of her.

[Jester]

...Many Americans look at you all weird if you even associate with foreign families, men, children, and what not.

So one day, I was just about to board a flight to Mexico City, and met a group of single American women in their 20's - all college students. Two were Korean Americans, and the rest were white. They were going on a typical touristy trip to Teotihuacan, Xochimilco, etc. They were easy to chat up at first, and we talked about school, our trip plans, and other topics. I told them I was going to visit a family in an ejido (ranch) in rural Veracruz, and pulled out some laminated photos of the family's relatives living up north. I showed them to one of the white American women.

Guess how she reacted.....

Did they happen to mention where in the U.S. they were from?

[Falcon]

Southern California. Same city I'm from, by coincidence (PM me for the exact location). They're partly the reason I had left in the first place ...

[Jester]

Southern California.

I figured.

[Seeker]

I have posted the same stuff in:

Prejudice Against Foreign Girlfriend
viewtopic.php?t=12397

It's not just foreign women. Many Americans look at you all weird if you even associate with foreign families, men, children, and what not.

So one day, I was just about to board a flight to Mexico City, and met a group of single American women in their 20's - all college students. Two were Korean Americans, and the rest were white. They were going on a typical touristy trip to Teotihuacan, Xochimilco, etc. They were easy to chat up at first, and we talked about school, our trip plans, and other topics. I told them I was going to visit a family in an ejido (ranch) in rural Veracruz, and pulled out some laminated photos of the family's relatives living up north. I showed them to one of the white American women.

Guess how she reacted.

From a bubbly friendliness to a sudden frown and scowl. "How do you know these people?"
"Oh, I just knew them in Tijuana. I easily make a lot of new friends in Mexico."
"Oh yeah?"
"Well, the family doesn't have any computers or mail services, so I'm doing them a favor by taking these pictures down. The mother hasn't seen her sons in years and has no idea what they look like now."
Then she says very flatly and sarcastically, "That's great."

She suddenly turns her back away. End of conversation. The way these women cut off their friendliness was so incredibly abrupt, and made no sense.

Despite the fact that they were willing to tour around Mexico, they were disgusted by the fact that I would be deeply involved with the poor, peasant underclass.

Of course, I didn't bother to tell them that I even had a significant other in Mexico, let alone show them pictures of her.

This is the kind of story you need to spread around, let people know what kind of people these bitches are.