A man's role is to love, to protect, and to provide for his wife and family. If he refuse to do this out of selfishness, then he is a small person. If she is going to be his women, then he should have the financial capability (or to acquire the financial capability) to provide for his wife and family with a standard living that is befitting of his position. If she wish to fulfill her filial piety by sending money to her parents, that is perfectly acceptable. However, this does not mean that she has a carte blanche with his bank account. She should have the good sense to know what his financial constraints are and adjust her expectations accordingly. For the women, to marry a chicken is to follow the chicken, to marry a dog is to follow the dog. If she insists on imposing unreasonable financial demands upon her man, then her man should show her to the door and find someone better.Winston wrote: Why did you suggest he give her a generous allowance? A woman has no right to demand that a man buy her anything she wants or send money to her parents.
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Yep, the way to solve problems is to never have them happen in the first place; prevention. He should have made himself known on the financial issue from the beginning, and at the first sign of irresponsibility on her part (which is a test she is giving to see if he has nuts) put her in her place. You can't have her walk all over you for three years and then magically grow a nut sack one day. The relationship is over.momopi wrote:I've said this several times before. Don't be "too nice" to people. If you assumed the "bent over" position yourself, don't act shcoked when you get screwed from behind.
Whenever I'm in a relationship, I make my positions clear on specific things like, as adults, I don't hit you, and you don't hit me. If you cannot abide by this, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
One of my friends hooked up with a Mainland Chinese girl who gradually increased her financial demands. Money for her shopping trips, money for her mother, money to pay off her mother's home in China, etc. etc. He asked me what he should do, and I told him to put her on a generous but firm allowance, if she cannot accept it, show her to the door.
3 years later, she is out the door and wants to come back. He asked his mother what he should do, and his mother told him to "go ask your friend".
I told him "you can do better".
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What a load of drivel...I did that...and you can see where that gets you in the west now. Tens of millions of men who tried to be "unselfish" and "not a small person" were destroyed by their "loving and grateful wives and children" and went on to suicide. I was nearly one of the suicides.momopi wrote: A man's role is to love, to protect, and to provide for his wife and family. If he refuse to do this out of selfishness, then he is a small person.
Grow up..the fairy tale is over. Get used to it. And I would recommend not trying to peddles this slop any more. Women said they need men like a fish needs a bicycle......women said sisters are doing it for themselves. I recommend you give them what they demanded.
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Wow...you have obviously never been married to one of these western shrews...momopi wrote:She should have the good sense to know what his financial constraints are and adjust her expectations accordingly.
Here..listen to the Kidd from Brooklyn...hes telling you how it is for western women.
PS. By western women I mean women who LIVE in the west.
I was in Ghana recently and my driver noted that if I took one of these dirt poor women back to europe and gave her a great life, far from thankful, in 6 months she would forget where she came from and try and to even better. A lot of african men who brought their wives to europe find that the wife then leaves them for a "better man".
I was talking to a pakistani cab driver in germany who worked his arse off to get into germany and drive cabs 100 hours a week to make enough money to bring his wife and children to germany....as soon as she got here she ran off with some man who was wealthier....women are like that...the world over....they only stay with a man while they see a benefit for themselves.
No such thing as keeping vows....no such thing as loyalty. It is sad to come to realise this but once you realise it then you are much freer in your relationships with women.
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That guy is a riot! I have seen some of his videos on youtube before, he speaks the TRUTH!PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Here..listen to the Kidd from Brooklyn...he's telling you how it is for western women.

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This might be one reason why life is better for men in Islamic countries. In Islamic countries, the men are firmly in control of the women. A women who abandons her husband in the way you describe in your quote will be seen as an adulterer, and will be severely punished. It is for this reason, I think, that Islamic families tend to remain intact, unlike Western families that tend to blow apart easily and scatter with the winds.PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Wow...you have obviously never been married to one of these western shrews...momopi wrote:She should have the good sense to know what his financial constraints are and adjust her expectations accordingly.
Here..listen to the Kidd from Brooklyn...hes telling you how it is for western women.
PS. By western women I mean women who LIVE in the west.
I was in Ghana recently and my driver noted that if I took one of these dirt poor women back to europe and gave her a great life, far from thankful, in 6 months she would forget where she came from and try and to even better. A lot of african men who brought their wives to europe find that the wife then leaves them for a "better man".
I was talking to a pakistani cab driver in germany who worked his arse off to get into germany and drive cabs 100 hours a week to make enough money to bring his wife and children to germany....as soon as she got here she ran off with some man who was wealthier....women are like that...the world over....they only stay with a man while they see a benefit for themselves.
No such thing as keeping vows....no such thing as loyalty. It is sad to come to realise this but once you realise it then you are much freer in your relationships with women.
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His family did wholesale business in LA Chinese community, and it was very important to maintain good relations with suppliers and customers. IMO it's perfectly acceptable for him to provide a generous allowance for her, and for her to spend some of that money on personal appearance so that she is presentable in business & social gatherings, and be a good host when they entertain others at home. She was the full time home maker and should have understood the necessity for him to invite his business associates & spouses over for dinner. Instead, she insisted that he should host at a restaurant somewhere because she didn't want to be bothered with the cooking and cleaning, and she did not want to attend these social events, preferring to stay home and watch TV, or go shopping somewhere & spend his money in ever larger sums.sushiman wrote: Yep, the way to solve problems is to never have them happen in the first place; prevention. He should have made himself known on the financial issue from the beginning, and at the first sign of irresponsibility on her part (which is a test she is giving to see if he has nuts) put her in her place. You can't have her walk all over you for three years and then magically grow a nut sack one day. The relationship is over.
I've told him from early on that she was not a wife-quality women who'd help him instead of hindering him, but his smaller head was doing the thinking and the rest is history. After casting out her the door, she found that her conformable, privileged position suddenly evaporated. So she returned and begged him to take her back. He asked me what he should do, I told him that he can do better, and I can even set him up with a few girls if he wished it. Personally, I don't like to give people second chances, and I don't expect others to give me second chances. Maybe she learned her lesson, but she can go apply that with someone else -- but not at my friend's household. A good horse will not turn back to eat grass that it has already passed. If you had to lose a women, go find a better one. If you had to lose a house, build a better and stronger one. If you had to lose some money, go make more. Quoting Ashita no Joe, even if a man were to die in a ditch, his body burned into pure white ashes, he should die facing forward.
I wouldn't have married a flower vase who thinks she is a Buddha statue that needs to be layered in gold.PeterAndrewNolan wrote:Wow...you have obviously never been married to one of these western shrews...momopi wrote:She should have the good sense to know what his financial constraints are and adjust her expectations accordingly.
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You think these women let on what they are REALLY like before they get the kids? You are so naive momopi. Women are the consummate liars because to them it is not even lying. My ex is a great example. She claimed to have gotten "accidentally pregnant" when she was 16. Turned out it was deliberate but she did not tell me until FIFTEEN YEARS into the marriage. She also lied to her mother, her father, her best friend, the man involved and the child involved.momopi wrote: I wouldn't have married a flower vase who thinks she is a Buddha statue that needs to be layered in gold.
She wanted to get away from her domineering mother and she got pregnant to do it. I told Bill Toal that if I had known she had done that I never would have married her and he agreed.
THAT is how good these women are at lying. If women wanted to be taken seriously they would PUNISH women like Jennifer who lied about so much for so long. Instead they SUPPORT HER and ATTACK THE HONEST MAN. And I am hardly alone in that list. Many men who are victims of crimes of women are attacked to get them to shut up about it.
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Peter is spot-on again. (If you're reading this Pete, make sure you only reply after you've scoped the ENTIRE f***ing POST! None of that stupid shit from last time, aye mate?)
Moreover, why is anyone defending Western women? I mean, wasn't this site built on the fact/opinion/whatever that they pale in comparison to their Eastern counterparts? I've noticed, after reading a lot of older posts, that a generous population of members/users here don't seem to really grasp the fundamental concepts of Happier Abroad.
A lot of you look mighty daft. Just saying.
Moreover, why is anyone defending Western women? I mean, wasn't this site built on the fact/opinion/whatever that they pale in comparison to their Eastern counterparts? I've noticed, after reading a lot of older posts, that a generous population of members/users here don't seem to really grasp the fundamental concepts of Happier Abroad.
A lot of you look mighty daft. Just saying.
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First of all, if someone is selfish, you can't force them to care about others if they don't. Shouldn't people have the right to be selfish? Why force everyone to be unselfish or selfless? Isn't that unrealistic?momopi wrote:A man's role is to love, to protect, and to provide for his wife and family. If he refuse to do this out of selfishness, then he is a small person. If she is going to be his women, then he should have the financial capability (or to acquire the financial capability) to provide for his wife and family with a standard living that is befitting of his position. If she wish to fulfill her filial piety by sending money to her parents, that is perfectly acceptable. However, this does not mean that she has a carte blanche with his bank account. She should have the good sense to know what his financial constraints are and adjust her expectations accordingly. For the women, to marry a chicken is to follow the chicken, to marry a dog is to follow the dog. If she insists on imposing unreasonable financial demands upon her man, then her man should show her to the door and find someone better.Winston wrote: Why did you suggest he give her a generous allowance? A woman has no right to demand that a man buy her anything she wants or send money to her parents.
A man can provide yeah, but his wife's family doesn't have the right to demand free money from them. Isn't that wrong in your book?
Are you saying that the wife has the right to demand an allowance?
It's ok if the wife sends some of HER money to her family. Sure. But isn't it wrong to force or obligate a man to give free money to his wife's family, esp since deep down, he doesn't even care about them? Why support freeloaders, esp if you don't even like them?
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If her role is full time home maker, absolutely. She should be provided with an allowance befitting of the household status. If she wished to send some of that money to her parents, that's perfectly acceptable. But if she makes unreasonable financial demands or cannot exercise restraint in her frivolous spending, then send her out the door.Winston wrote:Are you saying that the wife has the right to demand an allowance?
If you don't like the idea of duty and responsibility with marriage, then don't get married. About 12 years ago my ex-GF expressed that she felt suffocated and did not wish to commit to an engagement. I drive her to the airport, put on her a plane to Japan and said "go".
Go and find a better woman to be with. And if you're of the opinion that there is no such thing as a good or better women, then this exchange is at an end.PeterAndrewNolan wrote: You think these women let on what they are REALLY like before they get the kids? You are so naive momopi. Women are the consummate liars because to them it is not even lying. My ex is a great example. She claimed to have gotten "accidentally pregnant" when she was 16. Turned out it was deliberate but she did not tell me until FIFTEEN YEARS into the marriage. She also lied to her mother, her father, her best friend, the man involved and the child involved.
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When you marry into an asian household you are marrying not just the wife but the family too. That's just a really standard thing Winston. Filial piety over all else. I'm surprised you don't understand this. You can call it "freeloading" but you're viewing it through a western lens. A man's household is his priority in asian culture. You can deviate away from that but unless you have a really firm mutual understanding then it's not going to work out. It's better not to marry into traditional asian culture unless you understand it.Winston wrote:
A man can provide yeah, but his wife's family doesn't have the right to demand free money from them. Isn't that wrong in your book?
Are you saying that the wife has the right to demand an allowance?
It's ok if the wife sends some of HER money to her family. Sure. But isn't it wrong to force or obligate a man to give free money to his wife's family, esp since deep down, he doesn't even care about them? Why support freeloaders, esp if you don't even like them?
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Thanks Blue....and hey, we all make mistakes when we are very busy! LOL!!Blue Murder wrote:Peter is spot-on again. (If you're reading this Pete, make sure you only reply after you've scoped the ENTIRE f***ing POST! None of that stupid shit from last time, aye mate?)
Moreover, why is anyone defending Western women? I mean, wasn't this site built on the fact/opinion/whatever that they pale in comparison to their Eastern counterparts? I've noticed, after reading a lot of older posts, that a generous population of members/users here don't seem to really grasp the fundamental concepts of Happier Abroad.
A lot of you look mighty daft. Just saying.
Yeah....I have no idea why men are defending western women. The International Womens Club of Dublin has 250 of the wealthiest and most pampered women of ireland from ALL OVER THE WORLD. Yet EVERY SINGLE ONE takes the position that my wife committing crimes was ok.
She was a member of that group and I did a little web site for them so I have their mail list. Not ONE of them objected to her criminal activities. So men who give me this bullshit about how "not all women are like that"? They can STFU.
I have PROVEN that 99.9% of western women condone the crimes of perjury, kidnapping, extortion, theft and child abuse.
EVERY woman in the Irish Parliament, EVERY woman in the Australian Parliament. EVERY woman in the International Womens Club of Dublin...
NO EXCEPTIONS.
I ask you. How many issues could you get about 600 out of 600 women to UNANIMOUSLY AGREE ON?
Not ONE dissenter?
Not many.
http://www.crimesagainstfathers.com/aus ... fault.aspx
Alternatively? of the 40 or 50 EEW I have told my story to, and that includes german women, NOT ONE condones my wifes actions. NOT ONE.
So.....99.9% of women in the west condone criminal actions by women against men and ZERO in my small sample set.
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I'm not sure what you are saying. What does a man's household being his priority have to do with him taking care of his wife's family? Didn't you mix two different things here? What is your point?Repatriate wrote:When you marry into an asian household you are marrying not just the wife but the family too. That's just a really standard thing Winston. Filial piety over all else. I'm surprised you don't understand this. You can call it "freeloading" but you're viewing it through a western lens. A man's household is his priority in asian culture. You can deviate away from that but unless you have a really firm mutual understanding then it's not going to work out. It's better not to marry into traditional asian culture unless you understand it.Winston wrote:
A man can provide yeah, but his wife's family doesn't have the right to demand free money from them. Isn't that wrong in your book?
Are you saying that the wife has the right to demand an allowance?
It's ok if the wife sends some of HER money to her family. Sure. But isn't it wrong to force or obligate a man to give free money to his wife's family, esp since deep down, he doesn't even care about them? Why support freeloaders, esp if you don't even like them?
Are you talking about all of Asia? Does that mean if you married a Chinese, Japanese or Korean woman, you are expected to support her family and give them free money too? I've never heard of that happening in my family. Usually, the wife's family gives the couple benefits and money, not the other way around. Every family I know in Asia outside the Philippines has resources and doesn't need to ask for anything, and they have pride and shame too.
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Hey Wu ... any hits from my friends in Egypt yet? I know you are on the list! And don't worry about what that fat f**k Nolan has to say, I am going after him because he is way more retarded than you are, which is an achievement, considering how high you set the bar!
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