Why do Filipinos NEVER share costs with foreigners or treat?!

[Kradmelder]

Just say NO.

When I would meet new girls before, I would tell them they could bring one person for first meeting if they didn't feel comfortable alone. But one only. I was proactive in making that clear. Subsequent meetings needed to be private in most cases and once again, I made that clear.

Deeper down, Filipinos know they are taking advantage of you when they or their friends leech off you. The ones with half a brain know that well. For some of them, it's even a kinda cliche. The trick is to find an elegant way to dodge this. I usually ask what's gonna transpire ahead of time to be sure. If they throw a surprise at me and others show, I may pretend to get a text or call say 10 min into meeting, make an excuse, and exit before any consumption can take place. If they bring leeches without asking first, it's a sign that they do not respect you much and probably would not be worth knowing. At best, they might be good for a P4P arrangement if you are really into their look.

Kuripot is actually not so bad. I think it has a thrifty connotation embedded whereas maramot is more on the negative (stingy) side. I may be wrong about that but who cares. I'm acknowledge that I am kuripot. If you are too soft a touch, Filipinos will not respect you for that.

If they ask for a loan, I agree to it and follow-up by asking what collateral they will put up. That usually stops them in their tracks. If they were more honest with me and themselves, they would just ask for a gift (help) and perhaps offer something in exchange. Loan and borrow are very dirty words in my book. They bring bad luck and destroy relationships, even back in the west.

Sounds like Winston is being taken by the Filipine hustle Ive never had any woman bring along company on a date. If she is uncomfortable, then tell her it is a public place, even one of her choosing, and you can pay for her taxi home. I can imagine filipine whatapp go wild : "come one come all. Mr Wu's treat"

[Winston]

Kradmelder, you obviously never dated in Asia. In Asia. a young girl will usually bring a chaperone along on the first or second date. Especially if she is late teens or early twenties. That's customary. But not a group or family to make you treat them, that's leeching. In Philippines that sort of thing happens to ALL foreigners, except maybe MarcosZeitola. lol. But all expats here experience it from time to time. I don't experience it much, but sometimes I do. Especially with young inexperienced Filipino girls. The expats here all hate that. Maybe the Koreans don't mind being leeched off of, but the western expats hate it too.

[Kradmelder]

Kradmelder, you obviously never dated in Asia. In Asia. a young girl will usually bring a chaperone along on the first or second date. Especially if she is late teens or early twenties. That's customary. But not a group or family to make you treat them, that's leeching. In Philippines that sort of thing happens to ALL foreigners, except maybe MarcosZeitola. lol. But all expats here experience it from time to time. I don't experience it much, but sometimes I do. Especially with young inexperienced Filipino girls. The expats here all hate that. Maybe the Koreans don't mind being leeched off of, but the western expats hate it too.

No I haven't and didn't know you asians had it so tough. And I assume asians dont exactly like to speak out as well.

Im not exactly in the market for teens or early 20s either The normal old fashioned way here would be you go to the house and meet the father, and have the daughter back at a set time. The father doesn't expect to come along with a host of people, and if anything will offer you something. After the first date you will be invited for a braai. No one would ever bring friends. You don't have to get past the friends. You have to get past dad, go there and be polite and respectful, say goeie aand Meneer, mevrou etc. You don't respect the lady of the house or the daughter you will be picking up your teeth You will get grilled. You had better have a job or decent prospects and be of good reputation or else You walk in with a hat on, slouched, hands in pockets, head set etc and you will be physically picked up and dropped outside on the pavement

[droid]

Screw that, I have a hard time believing they're such shameless freeloaders. I'm glad you didn't pay for those people Winston, don't let anyone guilt trip you into paying. Do it only if you're getting some actual value, like if they are explaining to you how to get around or how to do business etc.
Having said this, could it be like in Korea, where the rule is that the eldest person at the table is expected to pay? I understand this is the case even if you are just months older.

Like I said all that crap is non-existent in Vietnam, they have some dignity and actually try to spend to impress you a little bit, within their resources, at least in my experience.
Only in one occasion one girl joined to chat and I bought her a $1.5 drink, which was fine but for her not saying thank-you. I explained to my girl that this was not acceptable and that whenever someone joined they would have to pay for themselves. I explained "it's not the money, of course" and she agreed, never happened again.

[starchild5]

I did tell my date that i didnt want to meet her friends if i would have to treat them. She said ok and that they would pay for themselves.

Then No Karma.If you specifically said, you would not treat them and your date said ok and that they would pay themselves. No Karma At All. If you would have written this on first post then I would not have written the post on Karma

What I don't understand is why were they annoyed when you did not pay for their food when you already told, you won't be paying for them. I think your date did not convey that message to them.

Its Weird ..Why would they agree'd to meet you at all in the first place when you said you won't be paying for them knowing the nature of Filipinos and you said...they never talked to you as well. Its totally against Filipino freeloading culture

Really, strange couple they are..

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As I said, Filipinos do freeloading and it is bad for Karma as well, being new to Philippines..I generally did not say No to the date bringing friends..but the pattern became obviously clear but the s*x was fantastic so never complained ...plus I was eager to learn about Filipino culture....

That has waned now over the years and now I'm very cautious and generally do not involve in a situation where I have to pay the bills of friends unless the date is super hot...

Honestly..It also depends on how hot the girl is..If she is super hot, I don't mind paying for her friends...if not ..I don't involve myself in those situations...

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One of the persian girl i dated...said the exact same thing..She said..She don't like Filipino men, because they are cheap....so apparently, some Filipino guy, made her pay for his meal it seems ...she said, she would never date a filipino men again.

Looks like no one appreciates freeloading behaviour of Filipinos.

The good thing was that Persian girl insisted on paying for her own coffee on our first date....Now's, that's what respect and dignity really means but then I never got anything out of her, as she was too independent.

Lesson Learned...If you are looking for s*x...Its ok to pay for her friends too...

Most of the girls from outside Philippines with No Freeloading behaviour never give s*x as well...That should also be taken into consideration.

Its very complex situation....We have to consider both sides of the equation.

Do you want respect or s*x ...In the Philippines, sometimes, we cannot avoid these situations due to the social family friends bonding culture of Philippines.

Now, the honest situation for me is. I don't date Persian, white, Indian girls even if they come alone and insist of paying for their food because they are too feminist and I never got anything out of dating non-filipinas...

Even if my date brings friends...I'm assured of s*x at night...with Non-Filipinas its 99% certain I will sleep alone

[Winston]

Starchild,
Yeah I guess that's what happened. My date didn't tell them that I didn't want to pay for them. She was too shy to. So she said nothing. Also, they did not come to meet me. They came to meet her because they wanted to hang out with her. The girl with her boyfriend was my date's friend. She came to see her, not me. They didn't talk to me much. That's why I didn't care to pay for them either. lol. However, when the bill came, they did expect me to pay and were shocked and stunned when I didn't. When the guy in the other couple paid, he looked embarrassed like he was put in an awkward position. lol. Well what did he expect? lol

[Daddy Wu]

Why would i incur bad karma? I didnt do anything wrong.

Winston! My son!

Daddy disagree! You do many thing wrong!

You lazy, you eat too much, you act like 花花公子 (playboy)!

Daddy keep say: don’t be dumbass! Why you disobey Daddy???

Love,
Your Daddy

[Voyager1]

Daddy Wu is back!

[Kradmelder]

welcome back Oom Wu

[Rock]

Why would i incur bad karma? I didnt do anything wrong.

Winston! My son!

Daddy disagree! You do many thing wrong!

You lazy, you eat too much, you act like 花花公子 (playboy)!

Daddy keep say: don’t be dumbass! Why you disobey Daddy???

Love,
Your Daddy

Sir, with all due respect, you also failed to teach your son the difference between hard facts and subjective opinions or even group consensus.

And did he fail physics in high school because he gets easily taken in by smooth talking flat earth and other assorted conspiracy nutters on Youtube?

There is a lot more I could say but I'll leave it at that for now. I'm sure you did your best.

Anyway, please keep trying and be patient Mr. Wu. Perhaps your son will eventually see the light.

[droid]

[Voyager1]

Daddy Wu wove wu wong time!

[starchild5]

Why would i incur bad karma? I didnt do anything wrong.

Winston! My son!

Daddy disagree! You do many thing wrong!

You lazy, you eat too much, you act like 花花公子 (playboy)!

Daddy keep say: don’t be dumbass! Why you disobey Daddy???

Love,
Your Daddy

Sir, with all due respect, you also failed to teach your son the difference between hard facts and subjective opinions or even group consensus.

And did he fail physics in high school because he gets easily taken in by smooth talking flat earth and other assorted conspiracy nutters on Youtube?

There is a lot more I could say but I'll leave it at that for now. I'm sure you did your best.

Anyway, please keep trying and be patient Mr. Wu. Perhaps your son will eventually see the light.

Rock..I think now you are Mocking Winston.

You know very well, he is not Winston's Dad.

and He was banned too...Who unbanned him...was it you...

I think Daddy Wu is none other than Rock himself ..Daddy Wu have also put some Chinese (mandarin) words in that post and Winston knows Rock can write and speak Chinese....Why take the pain in writing Chinese when the intention is to make a fun post.....Who would do that..Sure you can translate with Google but still..

.moreover, the Commas, Question Mark, Paragraphs kinda matches with Rock's Reply...Notice the number of Commas both posts have and sentence ending with a question on both posts?

This one:

Daddy keep say: don’t be dumbass! Why you disobey Daddy???

And did he fail physics in high school because he gets easily taken in by smooth talking flat earth and other assorted conspiracy nutters on Youtube?

If Rock has not used VPN...The IP address of Daddy Wu should be around Philippines

[gsjackson]

Winston, please don't ban Daddy Wu again. He's a beloved figure here.

[Winston]

Man none of my freelancers want to give me much of a discount for my birthday for a birthday boom boom. Lol. They're so stingy. Lol. How come they want me to treat them and give them stuff on their birthdays but they wont give me nothing at all on mine, not even a discount or free boom boom? Its so stingy and unfair and one sided. The word "fairness" doesn't exist to filipinos.