Anyone else hate work as much as I do?

[marklambo]

Practically any job, even if it's a job you think you like is still never self gratifying compared to working for yourself. Working for someone else is modern day slavery. Sure, you can do silly things here and there to make the job appear more fun but it's just a cover up. It's like splashing on deodorant and cologne when in fact what you really need is a shower. You can only cover it up for so long. In the end, it's still slavery, regardless if you lift boxes or push buttons on the mouse on a day to day basis. Sometimes you need to be a slave before you can dismiss yourself from slavery. Start making plans to do something on your own, it's way more gratifying and you won't feel as bored.

You'll notice that people jump from job to job, in hopes of being in a company that isn't as shitty. A job is always going to be shitty...maybe less shitty than the previous but still shitty. Any normal person if given the choice to be successful on their own vs working for someone else, will always choose to be on their own. The ones that say otherwise, are the ones that accept themselves to be slaves of corporate society because they don't believe in themselves to go on their own or in denial. There is nothing wrong with this, but me personally, I couldn't see myself being stuck in a cubicle 8 hours a day. I've been there done that...if I had to do it again, I'd hang myself.

Yep, pretty much.

I've preached this over and over again on this website but no one listens.

I've also suggested life coaches, real estate mentors, real estate coaches, business coaches and business mentors on this website but it does no good as no one listens at all.

People fear leaving their "comfortable" job and security because that's all they've known.

I would rather be "uncomfortable" and become a business owner and a real estate investor.

Taking action starts today, right now..............not tomorrow.

You couldn't have said it any better. People are too set in their comfort zones and that's what will always keep them in the same situation they are in. I'm the same as you...I rather be uncomfortable doing my own thing than to be a slave for someone else.

[Anti-American]

I hate work. The United States is the worst country to work in.

The United States still holds on to the outdated concept: Work your way from the bottom to the top.

[Ghost]

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[Winston]

I've never understood how most Americans tolerate their jobs. I mean, the vibe and feeling in America is depressing, empty and meaningless. And you are surrounded by unfriendly people. How does that motivate you to work? I mean, how do you endure the monotony and slavery of work on top of all that? Why work just to support a meaningless empty life?

I could not force myself to put up with that. I don't see how others do. I mean, if you aren't happy with your life, why work to support it?

Why does America not consider work to be slavery? It only considers the black slavery in the 1800's to be slavery, but not having a job.

Don't you hate having this conversation at work in America everyday?

- How are you doing today?
- I'm great. How about you?
- Not too bad. Nice weather we're having.
- Yeah, it's getting warmer. How was your weekend?
- It was great! And yours?
- Pretty good. By the way, I left the papers you wanted in your tray.
- Thanks. Appreciate it.
- No problem.

It's so repetitive, predictable and mind-numbing.

Jeremy, do you have that conversation at work everyday? lol

Why can't people at work in America have more deep and meaningful conversations?

[Ghost]

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[momopi]

I have one of those cushy office jobs with a fancy title. It's very easy (so easy I'm wondering why I had to spend four years in uni for it), but very boring. I literally stare at a screen 99% of the time and occasionally click a button. Kind of feels like being in daycare again.
And this is supposed to be the good job. A few months ago, I was breaking my back in a warehouse for minimum wage. Just shipping out box after box after box. It was as brutal on the body as it was on the mind.
By working full time, society tells me I'm "doing something with my life." So why does it feel like anything but?

Have you ever watched the "Jetsons" cartoon? It was made back in 1962 and the main character, George Jetson, goes to work to press a button.

But seriously, if you feel that your job is not worth of your time, then perhaps it's time to find a new gig. Remember that it's easier to find a job while you currently have a job. Employers discriminate against unemployed applicants.

One of my new year's resolution is to find a higher paying gig that's closer to home. Right now I'm spending 2+ hours/day on the commute and it's getting pretty tiresome. I like the job and the people here, but if I can save 2 hours of commute per day, that adds up to 40+ hours/month.

Thinking back, one of the best jobs I had in recent years was a ~30 hour/week gig, where I went to work around 6 AM and finished the day around 1 PM. It was during Summer and the office was only 1 city away from the beach. Almost every day I went to the beach after work, had fish tacos and just relaxed for couple hours before heading home. Only light traffic in early morning & mid afternoon.

[Renata]

Working a 9-5 job for the rest of your life is like having a cut that never heals.

[Jeremy]

Why dont you at least try to make your job FUN?

Here`s a couple of ideas:

Let your office fill with music in the background, at a low volume level even. Its much better than total silence right?

Play mini golf/put in the office.

Go to the gym during your lunch break.

Make an outline of your trip abroad, with what activities youd like to explore on your trip.

If you´re single, flirt with women that work in OTHER businesses nearby. Even if it leads to nothing, it lifts the spirit.

Exchange "G-Rated" jokes with
co-workers.

Read blogs on your
Favorite topics.

Man you are spoiled

They already have music blasting all day, but not the kind I'm into. If I hear Wrecking Ball one more time, I'm going to jump out the window.

[Winston]

Oh I get it now. America does not teach that jobs are slavery, because that would contradict its "live to work" culture and its teaching that having a job is the ultimate satisfaction and fulfillment in life. Instead, it prefers to teach that jobs=freedom because they give you the "freedom to work" which is what everyone wants to be happy. It's strange how they force that notion onto everyone as if it's a given fact of human nature that everyone lives to work. lol

What I've never understood is why Americans get so depressed and deflated when they lose their job. Why don't they get excited that they've been freed from an oppressive routine and enslavement?

Any of you ever see that movie "Up In The Air" with George Clooney? In it, Clooney plays this traveling representative who travels around the US and stays in fancy hotels. In the day time, he goes to companies that contract with his company, to fire their employees and give them the bad news, so that their own HR people don't have to do it themselves. It's too painful for them to tell an American employee to their face that they're being let go, so they hire Clooney to do it. When he does, he offers them some type of severance package too. I wonder if they use such third party firing agents in real life.

In the film, every time Clooney fires someone, the person acts traumatized and goes berzerk, as if their whole life were turned upside down. It's crazy. Why don't they ever show anyone being happy for being fired? That's so stupid.

Remember that movie "American Beauty" with Kevin Spacey? Well he was glad to be fired and freed from the system. Why don't they show that more often?

[ntm1972]

Some people hate work (i.e., forced labor) of ANY sort so much - and yes, that includes self-employment, for all who love the notions of lashing yourself with the proverbial whip, and of answering to a different set of bosses, namely your clients - that if necessary they would rather become a professional loafer, a luftmensch, and watch their savings dwindle rather than either return to wage-slavery OR start their own business. Count me in this group. I am happy whenever I am the UNRIVALED master of my time, and depressed when even the specter of work looms over me, to say nothing of having to do actual work. If it's not something you'd gladly do, for free, it's work! Anything I like to do, outside of those things I have to do in order to merely survive, turns out to be something that either doesn't pay well, or if it does pay well is something that severely conflicts with my overarching goal of being the master of my time.

In regards to my depression, someone recently wrote to me "You should fix your depression before pursuing serious work." He meant well, but he's got it backwards. The more I work - hell, the more I even feel the NEED to work - the more depressed I get!

Self-employment is preferable to wage-slavery, by virtue of your increased say in how your affairs play out. But, in (1) having the so-called "freedom" to choose your bosses (and no, you are NOT the only boss in the equation - you answer to the market every bit as much as any other player in this economic system), and (2) embracing the "more money equals more freedom" mindset, rather than advocate a definition of freedom that is independent of money, the actions of the entrepreneurs are mere coping mechanisms rather than revolutionary thrusts. Self-employed people are the champions of the status quo, not its foes.

Consider what Karl Schlegel had to say in his book Lucinde:

Industry and utility are the angels of death who, with fiery swords, prevent man's return to Paradise. . . . And in all parts of the world, it is the right to idleness [emphasis mine] that distinguishes the superior from the inferior classes. It is the intrinsic principle of aristocracy.

Why shouldn't a man who both despises work and tries to avoid work whenever possible feel that he is making choices that are superior to those who assent to the dictates of the marketplace, either by being one's own boss or by letting someone else do the honors?

A lot of people who say "I hate work" don't really hate work. In fact, they likely LOVE to work, much more so than the average person.

They just hate working for someone else. THAT'S the difference.

[The_Adventurer]

When the british came to the new world, and also arrived in the islands, many would defect and go live with the indians because they didn't have to work.

Aristocracy has the right to be idle because other people are doing the work for them. Others are growing the food, making their clothes, building their castles and so on. Most wouldn't last five minutes out in the world on their own.

You could live on a tropical island where clothing and shelter are not all that important, but you would still have to, a the very least, grow and/or catch your own food. Some might still consider that "work".

I once read where someone defined work as, "being paid to be somewhere you don't want to be, to do something you don't want to do." I think that is a good definition. I hate work, but I love drawing and creating things. Some of the things I create have value. People are willing to pay for them. I have no bosses, not even the market. If I wanted to follow the market, I might be a lot more successful. I make what I want to make, and know that if I am into it, there must be at least some people out there with similar tastes who will like it also.

Following the market is what gets you the very restricted, limited, formulaic, monotonous drivel coming out of Hollywood and the modern video game industry. Ignoring the market is the absolute best way to find an audience for your creation. It may take a lot longer, but they will be yours and they will be loyal!

[ntm1972]

I once read where someone defined work as, "being paid to be somewhere you don't want to be, to do something you don't want to do." I think that is a good definition. I hate work, but I love drawing and creating things. Some of the things I create have value. People are willing to pay for them. I have no bosses, not even the market. If I wanted to follow the market, I might be a lot more successful. I make what I want to make, and know that if I am into it, there must be at least some people out there with similar tastes who will like it also.

There are limitations, even to this. I was a theoretical mathematician whose research program dealt with issues that only a handful of people in the whole world gave a flip about, and all of them put together wouldn't have paid me a livable income. I have always thought of myself, first and foremost, as an artist. This line of thinking undergirded my mathematical work; I always strove for elegant, ingenious solutions to the problems before me. On a nuts-and-bolts level, however, it didn't matter. Just because someone liked my work didn't mean that they were going to help put a roof over my head, or clothes on my back.

Aristocracy has the right to be idle because other people are doing the work for them. Others are growing the food, making their clothes, building their castles and so on. Most wouldn't last five minutes out in the world on their own.

Of course! All the more reason to try to find ways to live our lives by having to do as little work as possible, beyond mere survival. But the moneyed elite don't want that to happen because it undermines their control over everyone else. Yes, the average person works less than the typical fellow in the mid-nineteenth century did, but that same "average person" works MORE, much more, than the typical medieval artisan or farmer did. Pre-modern man understood something that modern man has forgotten: Work is generally demeaning and dehumanizing. The more you work, the less likely you are to behave humanely towards yourself and others.

[pablo56]

This goes on in my office everyday. i totally agree just sit at your desk stare at your computer all day. Do not even think of talking to women they have such great hatred of men. Its sad really but at least they pay me well to perform stupid tasks.
mike

I've never understood how most Americans tolerate their jobs. I mean, the vibe and feeling in America is depressing, empty and meaningless. And you are surrounded by unfriendly people. How does that motivate you to work? I mean, how do you endure the monotony and slavery of work on top of all that? Why work just to support a meaningless empty life?

I could not force myself to put up with that. I don't see how others do. I mean, if you aren't happy with your life, why work to support it?

Why does America not consider work to be slavery? It only considers the black slavery in the 1800's to be slavery, but not having a job.

Don't you hate having this conversation at work in America everyday?

- How are you doing today?
- I'm great. How about you?
- Not too bad. Nice weather we're having.
- Yeah, it's getting warmer. How was your weekend?
- It was great! And yours?
- Pretty good. By the way, I left the papers you wanted in your tray.
- Thanks. Appreciate it.
- No problem.

It's so repetitive, predictable and mind-numbing.

Jeremy, do you have that conversation at work everyday? lol

Why can't people at work in America have more deep and meaningful conversations?

[zboy1]

As long as you have to work for a company or for a boss, you will have to deal with a lot of bullshit and stress. That's just the way people are at work: insufferable a-holes.

The only way out-of-it is to be your 'own boss.' That way, you will be in charge of your own business--without the associated crap you deal with in working for an employer.