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CE,
You obviously don't believe in freedom or the Constitution. It's immoral to take away people's free will and FORCE them to get vaccinated. Don't you know that? Don't you know anything?

What if the vaccine kills you or gives you cancer? Then what? Who will you blame? The truthers or the government?

You never answered my question about why you trust the government or establishment when it lies to you many times in the past and present. How do you know they are telling you the truth and the vaccine contains nothing hidden or secret?
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fschmidt wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 1:05 am
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Everyone on this forum will die at some point, some a bit earlier than others. But praying for or putting energy towards the death of others is a
sure way to unwittingly bring that karma down upon oneself.
I don't believe in karma. If there was karma, the vast majority of humanity would be burning in hell.
Most people are burning in inner hell. They are slaves to their desires and to money and to their jobs and on the treadmill to their God which is money. There are different types of hell, not just one. Hell is an inner state, not just an outer state. All great mystical traditions teach this.
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Winston wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 4:49 pm
CE,
You obviously don't believe in freedom or the Constitution. It's immoral to take away people's free will and FORCE them to get vaccinated. Don't you know that?
As I see the situation now:
CE is not wrong if he thinks either accept vaccination or stay in your own country, not allowed to travel abroad.

Nobody will force you in USA and in most other countries too I guess to be vaccinated against covid-19.
There will be also many volunteers willing to receive those required jabs, likely there will be a waiting time also for them.

However expect most airlines to refuse you as their passenger, at least on international flights, to board their airplanes if you cannot prove a valid vaccination against covid-19.

Also expect many countries to create new immigration rules to refuse entry to those foreign visitors if they cannot prove a valid vaccination either and they will send you to a quarantine facility up to 14 days and testing at least 2 times - at your cost - before they let you into their country.
If you are unwilling or unwilling to pay for quarantine/testing - which might cost you USD 2000,- or even more - expect to be sent back to your country immediately and not being allowed even to leave the transit room of the airport.
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yick wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 1:23 am
.....why should it be aimed at any one person when there are so many of you. It doesn't matter what you want in this world, if you want to get back to Romania or wherever you want to go then you'll get a vaccine, do you think the Romanians want - for one minute - a citizen of a country that has had the highest number of COVID-19 related deaths on the planet visiting their country without being vaccinated? :lol:
This is correct, why should a country with low infection rate accept visitors from a country with a high infection rate?

After a reliable vaccine is available to everybody, there might be additional immigration rules created - no vaccine = no quick entry, but 2 weeks quarantine and testing for international visitors at your cost or risk to be sent back immediately, something like that.

Airlines will have to comply with those immigration rules.

It might take years until covid-19 will disappear by itself. It is still unclear if the new vaccine is effective and safe, we will know more I guess within the next year 2021.
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Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:00 pm
This is correct, why should a country with low infection rate accept visitors from a country with a high infection rate?

After a reliable vaccine is available to everybody, there might be additional immigration rules created - no vaccine = no quick entry, but 2 weeks quarantine and testing for international visitors at your cost or risk to be sent back immediately, something like that.

Airlines will have to comply with those immigration rules.

It might take years until covid-19 will disappear by itself. It is still unclear if the new vaccine is effective and safe, we will know more I guess within the next year 2021.
So you still think this is a real thing and the regimes are reacting to it on that basis? You are actually that stupid?
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Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:00 pm
yick wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 1:23 am
.....why should it be aimed at any one person when there are so many of you. It doesn't matter what you want in this world, if you want to get back to Romania or wherever you want to go then you'll get a vaccine, do you think the Romanians want - for one minute - a citizen of a country that has had the highest number of COVID-19 related deaths on the planet visiting their country without being vaccinated? :lol:
This is correct, why should a country with low infection rate accept visitors from a country with a high infection rate?

After a reliable vaccine is available to everybody, there might be additional immigration rules created - no vaccine = no quick entry, but 2 weeks quarantine and testing for international visitors at your cost or risk to be sent back immediately, something like that.

Airlines will have to comply with those immigration rules.

It might take years until covid-19 will disappear by itself. It is still unclear if the new vaccine is effective and safe, we will know more I guess within the next year 2021.
What about countries with low infection rates accepting visitors from countries with low infection rates? For example, NZ, Korea, Taiwan, people from there should not be required to get vaccines to enter other countries, since the infection rate is almost nil there. Shouldn't some countries be exempt?

I don't see how this virus is dangerous. It seems that the true danger is government craziness and berzerkness. Why can't we think for ourselves? Why do we have to believe whatever the hive mind and establishment say 100 percent of the time? When they have a history of lying and getting away with it? Can you give me some logical reasons? The law doesn't make it right, neither does doing your job or following orders.
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Moretorque wrote:
November 27th, 2020, 7:49 am
This is the total takeover at hand..
COVID19 = Certificate Of Vaccination ID. (A=1, I=9, 19 = AI) :idea:

Covid completely cured the seasonal flu in Australia :!:
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Former Pfizer VP: ‘No need for vaccines,’ ‘the pandemic is effectively over’
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Dr. Mike Yeadon, Pfizer's former Vice President and Chief Scientist for Allergy & Respiratory, states that the drive for a universal vaccine has 'the whiff of evil' which he 'will oppose … vigorously.'

While Pfizer pharmaceutical made headlines announcing the imminent release of their COVID-19 vaccine, to much fanfare, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist for the company has flatly rejected the need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.

In a recent article, Dr. Michael Yeadon, who “spent over 30 years leading new [allergy and respiratory] medicines research in some of the world’s largest pharmaceutical companies,” and retired from Pfizer with “the most senior research position in this field,” wrote:

There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.
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Winston wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:15 pm
What about countries with low infection rates accepting visitors from countries with low infection rates? For example, NZ, Korea, Taiwan, people from there should not be required to get vaccines to enter other countries, since the infection rate is almost nil there. Shouldn't some countries be exempt?
This depends on bilateral agreements.

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-u ... exceptions

For example NZ and Australia.....
I don't see how this virus is dangerous.
Well, I am not interested while living in a low infection area to catch covid-19 by a large group of tourists from USA or UK or from Italy etc., who are allowed to enter my country without being tested, without quarantine, without - in future - any vaccination.

This is the reason why some Asian countries are very reclusive now, like Thailand.
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Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 5:46 pm
CE is not wrong if he thinks either accept vaccination or stay in your own country, not allowed to travel abroad.
I pray for your death as well. People like CE and Yohan need to be exterminated, they are a plague on humanity.

The question of whether vaccines work is actually irrelevant. If vaccines work then those who want them can take them, and this should make them safe from people who don't take them. The only reason that anyone would want to force others to take a vaccine is because they are tyrannical scum. Such people simply need to die, there is no other way to deal with such people.
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fschmidt wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:37 pm
Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 5:46 pm
CE is not wrong if he thinks either accept vaccination or stay in your own country, not allowed to travel abroad.
I pray for your death as well. People like CE and Yohan need to be exterminated, they are a plague on humanity.
I wonder if this comment against me - see text above - is still acceptable by HA-Forum rules....Reported!
The question of whether vaccines work is actually irrelevant. If vaccines work then those who want them can take them, and this should make them safe from people who don't take them. The only reason that anyone would want to force others to take a vaccine is because they are tyrannical scum. Such people simply need to die, there is no other way to deal with such people.
This is not what I said, do not put words into my mouth with your untrue comments.

As I said in previous comments, nobody will force you to accept a vaccination in your own country - however other countries will not allow you to enter or will send you into quarantine for 2 weeks and insist on intensive testing at your cost - or if you cannot or do not want to pay, they will send you back immediately.

Airlines have to consider for international flights immigration rules of the country of destination (passport, visa, other requirements).
If they fail to do so, they might be fined.
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Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:33 pm
Well, I am not interested while living in a low infection area to catch covid-19 by a large group of tourists from USA or UK or from Italy etc., who are allowed to enter my country without being tested, without quarantine, without - in future - any vaccination.
You want people to get a vaccine that doesn't work for a virus that doesn't exist? If you'd feel safer having the world vaccinated just remember the vaccines could have anything in them. Maybe the people who receive Covid vaccines are the ones who will become sick and contagious.
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HappyGuy wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 8:12 pm
Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:33 pm
Well, I am not interested while living in a low infection area to catch covid-19 by a large group of tourists from USA or UK or from Italy etc., who are allowed to enter my country without being tested, without quarantine, without - in future - any vaccination.
You want people to get a vaccine that doesn't work for a virus that doesn't exist? If you'd feel safer having the world vaccinated just remember the vaccines could have anything in them. Maybe the people who receive Covid vaccines are the ones who will become sick and contagious.
The corona-virus exists, and it is not a hoax to deal with millions of infected people worldwide.

I said, there are plenty of volunteers who will even accept waiting time to get a vaccination, and it will take several months to catch up to vaccine only these volunteers.

About people who refuse, they will not be forced to accept any vaccine, however foreign countries will not allow them to enter if they want to travel abroad - or they accept and pay for quarantine/testing which might take 14 days or so to their own expenses.

There is a choice, nobody is forced....
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fschmidt wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:37 pm
Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 5:46 pm
CE is not wrong if he thinks either accept vaccination or stay in your own country, not allowed to travel abroad.
I pray for your death as well. People like CE and Yohan need to be exterminated, they are a plague on humanity.

The question of whether vaccines work is actually irrelevant. If vaccines work then those who want them can take them, and this should make them safe from people who don't take them. The only reason that anyone would want to force others to take a vaccine is because they are tyrannical scum. Such people simply need to die, there is no other way to deal with such people.
Comments like this don’t faze me at all. They’re just a reflection of inner turmoil expressed outwardly.

They are also a reflection of a common state of mind on the forum due to this year’s difficulties and the stress levels of members coping poorly.

Someone living with those sentiments needs to be pitied rather than condemned.
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fschmidt wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 6:37 pm
Yohan wrote:
November 28th, 2020, 5:46 pm
CE is not wrong if he thinks either accept vaccination or stay in your own country, not allowed to travel abroad.
I pray for your death as well. People like CE and Yohan need to be exterminated, they are a plague on humanity.
They are helpless dependants who are reliant on the regime for their continued existence and they project their condition onto others. Yes, they are vermin to be exterminated, but you can't really blame them. If the regime wants to kill them then they are dead anyway, so why not take the lethal injection and avoid the intervening unpleasantness.
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