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Jonathan Head wrote:Yes, I am the admin of Orient Expat. If you have the audacity to describe me as immature, while at the same time hosting, and refusing to remove such a blatantly libellous topic, and then state that you, as webmaster, are not responsible for it's removal, you really are stupid beyond belief. With great freedom comes great responsibility. Are you you're willing to stand up in court and say you have the right to host this content about me and my family? Seriously?

This topic is already now cached in Google, and will therefore remain that way and online for many months, no matter what you do now, as you failed to act quickly enough to remove the comments (your responsibility as webmaster). Even if you do somehow realise the magnitude of what's been written here, it's already too late. Search engines, scrapers, whatever, all cache this data. What are you going to do about that you foolish man.

The law is very clear on this. I have emailed you and asked for the vile, defamatory comments by cornfed and thepimp removed. Our daughter is 12 years old you son of a bitch. I also want all references to my name and my website removed as well. I want this topic deleting, you'll have to deal with the legal side of the search engines and my screengrabs later.
You're a delusional idiot Mandrake, or Patrick Shaw. You don't know shit about real life. What about that thread you created in your forum about "Winston Wu - The Biggest Loser in Asia"? Why did you keep that one up for years?

Your words speak for itself. You are immature and act like a bully kid in junior high. Not as a mature rational adult.

Do you not know anything of internet law? Long ago, the Supreme Court passed a law stating that forum owners and blog owners are NOT liable for any potentially libelous comments posted by others on their site. It's common knowledge among webmasters. Look it up.

Also, nothing libelous has been said here about you. It was just an anonymous poster making random BS comments about you. Happens all the time. On this forum, there are thousands of random BS comments about me too. Most of them aren't true. But so what? They don't need to be removed because they are just rumors and have no credibility.

The poster in this thread that said stuff about your daughter only said, "I bet he probably...." this and that. Saying "I bet he probably..." is just random speculation. That's not libel. Get an education. On the internet, there are an infinite number of nasty comments about public people. So what? Deal with it. We all do.

Is your real name Patrick Shaw? If so, so what? You wrote your own name in that prank article. It's your fault. Every public person gets negative exposure. Deal with it. Besides, your name is common, not unique. So no big deal. There are many Patrick Shaws out there.

Yes it's cached in Google, and in the Internet Wayback Machine too. So what? What do you have to lose?

Anyone can make random speculations on the internet. That has nothing to do with libel. The law says I'm not responsible for it too.

You are out of touch with reality. I know the real law. You don't.
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Hey Mandrake,
In case your name is Patrick Shaw, as you insinuate, I've put your name into the page title of this thread for maximum exposure and search engine optimization!

Muahahahahahahahaha! :)
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Jonathan, take it easy and keep on smiling.

Here is a feminist joke for you - from Sweden, from the news agency TheLocal. (No, no, not the BBC)

http://www.thelocal.se/20140401/blondes ... ish-study/

Hahaha, you really believe this? 1st April, :P
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Winston wrote: Anyone can make random speculations on the internet. That has nothing to do with libel. The law says I'm not responsible for it too.
You are out of touch with reality. I know the real law. You don't.
I think Jonathan is mixing up Thai law and US law. He is confused about Thai censorship and US free speech.
All what is going on in his remote village is for him 'international standard'.
What about that thread you created in your forum about "Winston Wu - The Biggest Loser in Asia"? Why did you keep that one up for years?
Good question! If - and I say it again - IF Jonathan is not a fake and really the responsible admin for OrientExpat ... We do not know who is sitting behind the keyboard of the computer posting comments as 'Jonathan Head'.

I consider 'Jonathan Head' as a nick and the poster as anonymous. If somebody wants to complain for a good reason, he should sign with his real name, just my opinion.

The sockpuppet JONATHAN HEAD is quite lucky, he can post on HAPPIERABROAD like any other member. No restrictions. His comments are not edited or deleted, but of course comments from other members are also not edited or deleted. He does not understand this rule of this forum obviously and is calling for censorship.

Basically he is misusing this free-speech-forum as he is not willing to offer the same in return.

What will happen to me if I sign up on ORIENTEXPAT calling myself CONRAD HILTON, claiming I am YOHAN? I will be banned within the next 5 minutes.
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Jonathan Head wrote:Yes, I am the admin of Orient Expat.
While you are here, it would be good if you could explain why pretending to be sold to the BBC was funny. I don't get it.
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Jonathan Head wrote:Yes, I am the admin of Orient Expat.

..... asked for the vile, defamartory comments by cornfed and thepimp removed.

..... I also want all references to my name and my website removed as well. I want this topic deleting...
It's 'defamatory' not 'defamartory'.
http://dict.leo.org/#/search=defamatory ... wSingle=on

I am thinking you are asking too much, Jonathan.
Let me explain:

If you want anything from the admin of happierabroad, I recommend you should use your original admin-email account, admin@orientpixel.com - otherwise how to identify you?

You should identify yourself to prove that you are indeed the admin of OrientExpat. According to the registration data, the email of administrator of Orientexpat is 'admin@orientpixel.com' located in Singapore, 203.211.136.127.
I say it again - ORIENTPIXEL.com and NOT orientexpat.com.

Keep in mind, it was YOU who was starting this ridiculous mess by creating a spoof-webpage of the BBC with IP-spoofing-URL. Later on one of your forum members - nick-ID Britmaveric - created a thread in the orientexpat-forum to make fun out of misguided readers.
This might be OK in some countries for a few hours as 1st April hoax, but in general spoofing is a criminal offense.

What did you expect as reaction? You reap what you sow.

Can you explain why this ENTIRE thread should be deleted?

What about your own dishonest moderation? Did you ever delete defamatory comments and graphics against YOHAN in your Orientexpat-Forum? For example, a certain idiot, nick-ID Stocky, comes to my mind, his crazy photoshopping/defacing my photos of the Philippines and Japan forced me to delete 100s of pictures.
Since years, there is a YOHAN thread with the opening post about to travel to Tokyo and to beat me up in front of my home.
What did you do about it?

PS: The only 'DELETE' I support is the removing of the suspicious comment by a newcomer 'thepimp'. This was not written by a frequent well-known member, its content is vulgar, it is likely a setup to harm HAPPIERABROAD and its owner. Maybe a setup done by some angry orientexpat-member or otherwise feminist-friendly sympathiser close to you?
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I hate that shit guy. this is a good idea. does anyone have pics of him or now if that really is his name we can post pics? what about the name of his wife and stuff. i agree good idea to change name of this page. might make you also liable but internet is no trace webmaster can do anything. we should also get names of moderator to include. fu** hate that guy. lives in thailand with child and wife. arrogant shit guy.
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thepimp wrote:I hate that shit guy. this is a good idea. does anyone have pics of him or now if that really is his name we can post pics? what about the name of his wife and stuff. i agree good idea to change name of this page. might make you also liable but internet is no trace webmaster can do anything. we should also get names of moderator to include. fu** hate that guy. lives in thailand with child and wife. arrogant shit guy.
Yeah, the moderator is a classic feminist/mangina. The mentality of people who would flee a society being destroyed by feminism only to deliberately infect other societies with this death cult is appalling.
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Yeah maybe we should remove the bad comments about Mandrake's family. I wish he would ask nicely though, instead of in a threatening manner. The dude has very low EQ. Making threats like that doesn't make the other party feel like complying. It has the opposite effect.

Who does he think he is? He is not our friend, nor mine. He has made enemies out of us. So why should we comply with what he wants? He's crazy.

His threats are stupid too. It costs a ton of money to sue someone. No way can he afford it, nor would he. It's not worth it to sue someone. It costs thousands of dollars. It's much easier to ask nicely. But Mandrake has no wisdom to do that. His EQ is at rock bottom too.

The way he acts is very immature too. I feel sorry for his wife. Why would she put up with him, especially if she was from a well off family and could marry a nice Thai guy instead?
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Jonathan Head wrote:As I said to you before yohan, you really have no clue about my life...

But really, the salient fact here is that this silly little April Fool has tempted you into signing up here to comment in this obscure thread, noticing it so soon (what are you doing all day, monitoring thousands of forums?!)...

You sad, sad little man
Jonathan,

I just noticed this sentence in your former comment, and all what I can say, you really have no clue about my life despite I was writing a lot about myself in the Orient Expat Forum. Weakness of memory?

First of all, check the dates you were signing up and I was signing up - you were signing up 2 days earlier than me. - My question what are you doing all day? You were signing up only a few hours after Cornfed opened this thread about your spoof webpage.

About myself, I am now on vacation, in the Philippines, with my Filipina fosterdaughter, and so I have a lot of time in evening. Every year since 2007 I am visiting Cebu around Easter celebration. Do you not remember my reports and pictures (which were photoshopped/defaced/ridiculed by Stocky) about Cebu?

I was not checking about OrientExpat, but about Happierabroad, which is known to be an aggressive website defending free speech and fighting against feminism and misandry. - He is doing this however in a form I do not really like, but this is his forum, so-called unique Winston WU style.

I never made a secret out of it as a Men's Rights Advocate that I fully agree with Winston's observation about the behavior of Western women and their manginas. - I also often said, his website is too aggressive for me to join, his solutions controversial, but well, he makes a business out of it and he is signing up with his true name taking full responsibility about what he is doing in USA.

I am not sad but very happy. Believe it or not. I don't care anyway what you think about me. Bye, have a nice day.
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Winston wrote: ...maybe we should remove the bad comments about Mandrake's family.

...Mandrake ... His EQ is at rock bottom too.

The way he acts is very immature too. I feel sorry for his wife. Why would she put up with him, especially if she was from a well off family and could marry a nice Thai guy instead?
I would remove these 2 comments from this unknown newcomer 'thepimp' as they do not offer anything constructive, but only vulgar accusations, which are totally baseless. I would remove them regardless if Jonathan remains silent, does complain or does not complain. These 2 comments are for the trash bin, just my opinion. Any forum - free speech or not - should offer a minimum of politeness.
You are the administrator, you must decide this, as this is your forum.

We do not know why this person 'thepimp' suddenly decided to sign up and is posting nothing else but hateful comments about the admin of Orientexpat and his family. I am not sure if this is not a legal trap, a setup by Jonathan and by some other feminist/mangina member of Orient Expat next to him to harm the reputation of Happierabroad.

About your question, Jonathan wrote some years ago somewhere in the OrientExpat Forum, that his wife is a divorcee with one child. Jonathan is not the father. It might be that her Thai family-clan is rich because of land ownership, but she is probably not. I remember comments from Jonathan that she was working in a hotel as a bookkeeper or receptionist. She seems to be just an ordinary modest Thai woman.

He also said that the land does not belong to her, but to her brother and other family members and that he has to do a lot of repairings for them all the time.

I think, Jonathan is merely a braggart claiming he is so rich, because his wife is so rich, because her relatives are so rich, they all are swimming in money and so on. You cannot take him seriously what he says.

The so-called nice Thai guy for the nice Thai girl is not so easy to find. Thai men and their parents are often very choosy and demanding. This is because Thai men are expected to pay a so-called bride-price to the parents of the bride. I personally think, this bride-price custom should be outlawed. Are we not all equals?
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Yohan wrote:About your question, Jonathan wrote some years ago somewhere in the OrientExpat Forum, that his wife is a divorcee with one child. Jonathan is not the father. It might be that her Thai family-clan is rich because of land ownership, but she is probably not. I remember comments from Jonathan that she was working in a hotel as a bookkeeper or receptionist. She seems to be just an ordinary modest Thai woman.
So when he said his wife makes more money than him, this would seem to indicate that most people made more money than him losing a tooth as a kid.
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Ok I edited out the comments by thepimp about Mandrake's family. His disparaging remarks have been replaced with:

* Edit: Comment removed by moderator. Please do not make disparaging remarks about someone's family or children. It is uncalled for. We can discuss him and his behavior without invoking his family or children into it. Thank you.

I did the same for quotations of his posts as well.
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Thank you, Winston, for consideration.

Orientexpat.com seems to be offline since 2 days.
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You're welcome. Why is it offline?

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