Does Taiwan belong to China? Will China ever invade Taiwan?

[MrMan]

Why does China want Taiwan so much? Doesn't China have plenty of land and territory? What would it gain if it had Taiwan and ruined its economy? Who benefits and how?

I haven't read the whole thread, but if China had Taiwan, it would have territory right there on the Pacific, not be hemmed in by all these other countries and their international waters. That would be better for its naval power.

Chinese naval power-- that sounds like some kind of martial arts energy exuding from one's belly button.

[Yohan]

China is still studying this issue about what to do or not to do. China is not so Russian-friendly. Not willing to help Russia against Ukraine and EU. Chinese act only if they see a lucrative business for themselves. See what happened to HongKong - but if there is a risk, they wait, often for decades, like Taiwan.
China is not so stupid. At this moment it's all about waiting and see what happens with Russia.

[Winston]

China boasts of the World's largest navy. But is the Chinese navy equipped to go to war or attack Taiwan? PLA's navy is inexperienced, ill-equipped and has various disadvantages. Palki Sharma tells you all about it.

[Gali]

China is still studying this issue about what to do or not to do. China is not so Russian-friendly. Not willing to help Russia against Ukraine and EU. Chinese act only if they see a lucrative business for themselves. See what happened to HongKong - but if there is a risk, they wait, often for decades, like Taiwan.
China is not so stupid. At this moment it's all about waiting and see what happens with Russia.

Could be that China is more realistic than Russia. China loves money like US does it. So maybe they can make a win win deal. What Russia wants nobody knows probably not even the Russians.

[Yohan]

China boasts of the World's largest navy. But is the Chinese navy equipped to go to war or attack Taiwan? PLA's navy is inexperienced, ill-equipped and has various disadvantages. Palki Sharma tells you all about it.

China is waiting, Taiwan cannot disappear overnight and it is important for China to see first what will happen to Russia and Putin and how Ukraine will doing in future.

China has also other issues to consider which are maybe more important than Taiwan. - Taiwan for sure is NOT the top of its priority list.

China is not crazy, Taiwan cannot be taken so easily and China does not want to become a Russia no. 2 with destroyed airplanes and ships and likely the large city of Xiamen 厦门市 (which is located only a few miles away of Taiwan controlled Kinmen county 金門縣) changed into a piece of debris.

[Winston]

Right Yohan. Plus Chinese are NOT violent people by nature. You can go anywhere in China, even to poor areas, late at night and you will never get mugged or attacked. Chinese like to yell and shout, but they do not get physical and attack people. Russians on the other hand, can get violent and physical if they feel like it or if provoked. So they are violent by nature. But Chinese definitely not. The macrocosm is usually reflected by the microcosm, so the basic Chinese character reflects onto the whole nation, because in a sense a nation is like a giant organism.

[Yohan]

China is still studying this issue about what to do or not to do. China is not so Russian-friendly. Not willing to help Russia against Ukraine and EU. Chinese act only if they see a lucrative business for themselves. See what happened to HongKong - but if there is a risk, they wait, often for decades, like Taiwan.
China is not so stupid. At this moment it's all about waiting and see what happens with Russia.

Could be that China is more realistic than Russia. China loves money like US does it. So maybe they can make a win win deal. What Russia wants nobody knows probably not even the Russians.

Taiwan is a special and unique case, these 23 million people want their own independent government without any political influence from China mainland.

There was never a Communist China mainland related administration on this island.

To try to take Taiwan by military force must result in a military response by the United States together with Japan.

Maybe not sending their warships into combat, but for sure USA and Japan will supply Taiwan with everything they need for their defense and also likely blocking with their warships the waterway between China and Taiwan.

Taiwan is in control of several small islands not far away from China mainland and if attacked it will attack in return for sure the city of Xiamen and the commercial area around with its large ports and factories and will destroy just everything they can destroy, Taiwan is full with weapons of any kind.

Xiamen with its more than 7 million citizens is only 15 miles away from Taiwan controlled Kinmen Island. The damages will be huge for Xiamen and nobody wants that.

Check it out on a map.

[Yohan]

Right Yohan. Plus Chinese are NOT violent people by nature. You can go anywhere in China, even to poor areas, late at night and you will never get mugged or attacked. Chinese like to yell and shout, but they do not get physical and attack people. Russians on the other hand, can get violent and physical if they feel like it or if provoked. So they are violent by nature. But Chinese definitely not. The macrocosm is usually reflected by the microcosm, so the basic Chinese character reflects onto the whole nation, because in a sense a nation is like a giant organism.

Chinese people, yes - but the Chinese government with a president for life in power are two different things - however the Chinese government is by far more business-like acting than Russia.

HongKong was no issue, it was anyway a part of China, nobody was disputing this.

But Taiwan is not HongKong. Of course Taiwan can be taken by China anytime, but the result after is unpredictable - it's not only about USA and Japan, but others, like South Korea, Canada, Australia, and even EU will follow with trade sanctions and it's not worth it to go ahead for now....
India is not a friend of China, and not to talk about Vietnam....etc.

In case of a military confrontation, US-and Japanese warships are by far more powerful in combat than some Russian tanks somewhere in Ukraine in the snow even unable to move on with soldiers who are 18 years old....

US/Japanese warships are indeed large monsters with a horrible firepower. They can destroy entire ports/factories/bridges etc. within a short time and nothing will be left.

Japanese warships are built a little bit smaller than the US equivalents. But still their size is remarkable.
The Japanese Navy has about 154 ships, 346 aircraft and 50,800 personnel (without Air Force, Ground troops, without coastguard ships)

One of the largest Japanese Navy ships - KAGA (helicopter/aircraft carrier)

[Gali]

Right Yohan. Plus Chinese are NOT violent people by nature. You can go anywhere in China, even to poor areas, late at night and you will never get mugged or attacked. Chinese like to yell and shout, but they do not get physical and attack people. Russians on the other hand, can get violent and physical if they feel like it or if provoked. So they are violent by nature. But Chinese definitely not. The macrocosm is usually reflected by the microcosm, so the basic Chinese character reflects onto the whole nation, because in a sense a nation is like a giant organism.

Chinese people, yes - but the Chinese government with a president for life in power are two different things - however the Chinese government is by far more business-like acting than Russia.

HongKong was no issue, it was anyway a part of China, nobody was disputing this.

But Taiwan is not HongKong. Of course Taiwan can be taken by China anytime, but the result after is unpredictable - it's not only about USA and Japan, but others, like South Korea, Canada, Australia, and even EU will follow with trade sanctions and it's not worth it to go ahead for now....
India is not a friend of China, and not to talk about Vietnam....etc.

In case of a military confrontation, US-and Japanese warships are by far more powerful in combat than some Russian tanks somewhere in Ukraine in the snow even unable to move on with soldiers who are 18 years old....

US/Japanese warships are indeed large monsters with a horrible firepower. They can destroy entire ports/factories/bridges etc. within a short time and nothing will be left.

Japanese warships are built a little bit smaller than the US equivalents. But still their size is remarkable.
The Japanese Navy has about 154 ships, 346 aircraft and 50,800 personnel (without Air Force, Ground troops, without coastguard ships)

One of the largest Japanese Navy ships - KAGA (helicopter/aircraft carrier)

Maybe China is doing a show to look strong in the eyes of the world but in reality they might not care about Taiwan too much.

[Yohan]

Maybe China is doing a show to look strong in the eyes of the world but in reality they might not care about Taiwan too much.

Sure, China has now other more important issues to work on them. At this moment Taiwan is not important for China.

https://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0008341299

China avoids criticizing Russia while trying to maintain stable foreign relations

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi called for the Ukraine crisis to be resolved through dialogue at an online press conference Monday, although he did not criticize the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Dissatisfaction is mounting in the international community toward the attempts by Chinese President Xi Jinping’s administration to maintain strategic cooperation with Russia, with an eye on China’s friction with the United States, while also seeking stable foreign relations overall ahead of the Chinese Communist Party’s National Congress later this year.

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A resolution condemning Russia and calling for the immediate withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine was adopted at an emergency special session of the U.N. General Assembly on March 2 with overwhelming support from 141 countries. China, which abstained, has been strengthening its international influence by touting itself as a “representative of developing nations” at the United Nations and other venues.

However, many developing nations are now criticizing Russia. If China continues to paralyze the U.N. Security Council along with Russia, it may result in developing countries distancing themselves from China.

Relations between the United States and Europe, weakened under former U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration, are rapidly being strengthened, as are relations with Japan, following the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Depending on China’s response, pressure from Japan, the United States and Europe could further intensify, which might affect the Xi administration’s global strategy.

If China really attacks Taiwan, it might become the next country to follow the fate of Russia, and this is the worst nightmare for Chinese politicians and Chinese businessmen.... nobody wants to go back to Mao's time.

Western countries can survive without Russia, but they can also survive without China. Might be that products will become more expensive but not really so much if production is dispersed and relocated to smaller countries like Vietnam, Philippines, Bangladesh etc. or somewhere in Latin America, China is not such a cheap place anymore.

[MrMan]

If the US wants to protect Taiwan, and cut off the possibility of China expanding it's naval power in the Pacific (it is hemmed in a bit by other countries' international waters which it keeps encroaching upon), then the US can act now. It could recognize Taiwan as a country, sign a treaty with them, set up a naval base there, etc. Once a hot war starts, like what we see in Russia, then we sit around deciding if we want to go to war with a big nuclear power. If we do some obnoxious moves like that upping the ante if they attack, that may deter an attack.

[Winston]

Gravitas: Taiwan "surrounded" by Chinese warships & warplanes

The PLA has carried out another round of drills near Taiwan. Chinese warships and planes surrounded the island. They conducted a partial rehearsal of "a possible reunification-by-force operation". Is China preparing to invade Taiwan? Palki Sharma tells you more.

[Winston]

Comment I posted under the WION video above:

WION, you are gullible and do not understand the Chinese. I was in China almost a year and I can tell you that the Chinese are VERY NON-VIOLENT. The streets are SUPER SAFE and you will NEVER get mugged anywhere. Why not report that? Chinese may shout and yell and argue a lot, but they never get physical or throw punches. It's not in their nature. If you spend time in China you will see this. Even their police are polite and NON-VIOLENT. One thing the Chinese do like to do is SHOW OFF. So this military buildup is most likely just a BLUFF and show off. If you understand the nature of Chinese people you would know this. ALso, in China no one ever bothered me or harassed me or tried to take away my freedom, and the Chinese people themselves do not claim that China is "unfree", only the Western media says that. Hence it's mostly PROPAGANDA of course. Ask the Chinese people themselves about this in private, so they can speak their mind honestly, and you will see what I mean. Use your brain please. Stop listening to Western media, which lies or exaggerates about almost everything. Thanks.

[Spencer]

Wiseton you love china hate taiwan so if comnust china take over the taiwan then make it same china and your wish come true taiwan become china so maybe you stay taiwan wait for red chinamans cross strait for librate you and wala win win

is it good

[Winston]

Not exactly Spencer. Because China took over Hong Kong yet hong kong is still rude and cold and antisocial. It didn't change the social culture. So i dont see what the big deal is. Maybe its all a drama and facade. We are all cattle either way.