Outcast9428 wrote: ↑August 28th, 2022, 4:53 am
WilliamSmith wrote: ↑August 27th, 2022, 4:19 pm
Having some of my friends' girlfriends repeatedly trying to get me in bed behind my friends' (their boyfriends') back helped red pill me about women's sexual voracity fairly early in my teen years: I did not do anything to them even though I wanted to real, real bad (since I didn't want to be a shameful betrayer of my own good personal friends), but those experiences, and later further reading, research, and experience enlightened me about women's extremely high levels of outright carnal sexual desire.
More like extremely high levels of selfishness and disloyalty. I know what having a very high sex drive is like and there is nothing about having a high sex drive that compels one to cheat. I have no sympathy for cheaters. Cheaters are scumbags, they don't do it because they "just have too!" They do it because they are selfish pricks who just want to do whatever they feel like. Cheating is related to being an unthinking beast who has no consideration for the person they chose to be with. One can have a very high sex drive and handle him or herself in a civilized manner.
@Outcast9428
I pretty much agree with you. I'm against cheating (never did it, never will, though won't do monogamy either except in extreme unanticipated circumstances). So I'm not trying to make excuses for cheaters, but just observing: Often the problem is that they are all defaulting to relationship norms with surface monogamy that neither side really wants, even though they're fine with the "I can do it but you can't" standard when it comes to getting some action on the side.
Also, you probably wouldn't be shocked that this chick managed to get most of his other friends into the sack at least once except me, but when there was some question of him (i.e. her boyfriend, my friend) cheating, she'd make a gigantic drama.
She was really funny though, besides squashing her melons or thigh against me at various times and dropping me little clues like telling me I had a nice natural smell, she'd also periodically pull gimmicks like offering me $2 to grab her ass when my friend was like 30 feet away taking a piss when we were teens out smoking and drinking crappy American beer, among other funny stories.
Outcast9428 wrote: ↑August 28th, 2022, 4:53 am
What you describe is why so many men nowadays have contempt for modern, Western women. And why men feel like they have to be "mean to them for expressing themselves sexually" so to speak. At least half of them if not more have turned into spoiled brats who insist on being able to do whatever they want no matter how unethical and immoral and they expect men to go along with it because they are women. It is honestly repulsive how mindless, amoral, and impulsive this group of women is.
Yeah, I kind of actually like that girl in some ways (she was a nice girl in some ways and still a friend, even though I wouldn't give her any behind my friend's back, LOL), but she and one of her friends and a few other women in particular are sort of iconic of what you tradpill and manosphere guys dislike in the "modern, Western women."
In fact that particular girl and her friend are pretty much over-the-top charicatures of all the things the "manosphere" crowd rants about against "American/Western" women:
Voraciously promiscuous cheaters, substance abuse issues, karens (they also got in big drama-queen squabbles with each other, as well as making drama with the men), emotional issues (possibly psychological too, but it's hard to tell because crooked American doctors peddle so much rx med dope to every one they can in the form of antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications that make people screwier in the head than natural), up to their ears in personal debts from undisciplined personal financial behavior with or without drugs, weighing in as heavyweights on the bathroom scale by their late 20s at the latest, etc. (And this is from a guy who actually likes XL curvy babes and even "BBWs" within reason, but I'm talking serious waddling heavyweights shaped like gumdrops with all sorts of attendant health infirmities. It's been awhile since I've seen them, so not sure if they're on the bandwagon of wolfing down junk food and bitching about "fat shaming" on tik-tok, or if they're more circumspect since these girls and I were from an earlier "Millennial" generation and were teens back in the 1990s...)
Her friend was also one of those types who was already an infamous man-eater and I believe had already had a zillion abortions, drug problems, and later also decided she wanted to pop out a gangsta's kid when that started getting trendy in the mid-late 1990s. (Way less common then, but she was on the early vanguard of that particular trend I guess.

) So she achieved that goal relatively easily and then blimped out, and last I heard she was still really funny and made jokes about how fat she was while living on welfare up in the city north of where we all used to live.
Anyway, unless you tradpill types ID a good market for nice more traditional girl in some religious or politically conservative community in pockets of the USSA, I think you guys are definitely on the right track in looking at places like certain Asian or Eastern European countries (maybe Hungary is a good one like you've been saying, not sure about that, but good luck to you!).
The only problem I see for you guys is just in over-idealizing specific cultures or entire countries rather than getting acquainted with more a redpill picture, but there's no question a lot of parts of those foreign countries are way less down the drain than most of the USSA or woke Europe, even if there's "vice" hotspots to avoid like Bangkok or Pattaya or wherever. I like it, but for tradpill I have my doubts about the Philippines, because even though it is neat and is supposedly traditional on the surface I heard it was almost the norm to have horny Pinays (and probably the men too) claim to be doing monogamy while cheating like crazy on the side and enjoying the resulting drama (for which they've been compared with a lot of Latinas).
Anyway, good luck to you.
