I decided I'm going to lay over 100 women ;)

[gsjackson]

Having some of my friends' girlfriends repeatedly trying to get me in bed behind my friends' (their boyfriends') back helped red pill me about women's sexual voracity fairly early in my teen years: I did not do anything to them even though I wanted to real, real bad (since I didn't want to be a shameful betrayer of my own good personal friends), but those experiences, and later further reading, research, and experience enlightened me about women's extremely high levels of outright carnal sexual desire.

Bravo. Let me tell you about someone who didn't resist such temptation. He is now a fairly well-known talking head on TV. If you're familiar with American network news you've almost certainly heard the name. I offer the story as an example of the kind of people who ascend in the corporate media -- in this case a combination of useful idiot and potential honeypot (think Epstein Island) victim.

In his first journalism job (and mine) we were good friends with a guy who also worked at the paper and his wife, getting together often. I left the paper and went to Washington to work for the congressman from that region, at his request. The married guy, who happens to be the nicest guy in the world, came to visit me and go to an interview with The American Spectator magazine that I had set up for him. He got the job, but it paid so little he couldn't afford to take it, so taking that disappointment home he finds out that he has been cuckolded by the talking head (apparently the wife felt the need to rub his nose in it when he returned, for some reason).

I learn about this four years later when the talking head had just come to Washington and the (still) married couple were coming there too shortly after, both having gotten jobs with the federal government. The talking head felt forced to tell me about the episode by way of explaining why we four wouldn't be getting together like in days gone by. He was contrite, and said that she had seduced him, which I can believe because she was definitely on the tartish side. But regardless of temptation, I really don't know how you can cuckold one of your closest friends, especially such a good guy. Unless you're the sort of person that corporate media keeps a diligent eye open for. The kind of person who won't allow any principles and values to stand in the way of his ambition and willingness to comply with the prescribed "narrative" of the day.

[Lucas88]

Wow, it seems that in this thread business has just picked up!

Just two things I'd like to say:

@Outcast9428

I'm not comfortable with cheating and I don't think that WilliamSmith is too comfortable with it either. For those of us who like to appreciate the carnal beauty of multiple women in the flesh and recognize that we are incapable of committing to one woman this is a good ethical reason not to get married. We'd rather avoid deceiving others and causing unnecessary heartache. We'd also rather remain true to ourselves.

@MarcosZeitola

What a lot of traditionalists (either faux or legitimate) don't understand is that many people's marriages are merely aimed at utilitarian ends such as child rearing while being devoid of any kind of true love or mutual attraction. In this case many people have extramarital affairs or see a prostitute in order to fulfill their own sexual needs. The traditionalists hastily conclude that these are terrible people with no morals or concern for others when in reality their marriage is just a façade to begin with and both parties know it.

[Outcast9428]

@MarcosZeitola

Shame, I read your old post on "faux traditionalists" and was proud of you for pointing that out. But having "side adventures" while you were married is very faux traditionalist. There is no "mostly faithful." You are faithful or you're not.

You're right, and I do remember that old post...

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I don't think this necessarily contradicts my points, however. The "faux traditionalist" I referred to is a man who wants to "have his cake and eat it too". He wants to complain about modern society, but he's a sterile husk of a man. He does not contribute, does not reproduce, he holds on to certain 'values' that he claims matter to him but he does not practice what he preaches.

A traditional, old-fashioned man would marry, and he'd bring home the bacon to his wife and family. If he has the time and resources, he may have an affair or two. A mistress, perhaps. It's quite common for a man to this, and still be a solid husband. Throughout history any man of means and substance usually had more than one woman, for a variety of reasons. Many maintained secret second families even; I have one myself, as a matter of fact, as of me writing this I have six biological children and next year will welcome two more, bringing the "grand total" to eight. A pretty solid score for a man in the 21th century, I'd say.

The "faux-traditionalist", more than anything, is a man who more or less is the male equivalent of the crazy cat-lady feminist: all high on morals and with very strong viewpoints, but ultimately a genetic dead-end who has a huge wash-list of complaints and reasons as to why he is a genetic dead-end but... goes nowhere, in the end.

Bottom line: don't be a faux-traditionalist. Be a Genghis Khan, be a Shaka Zulu or Attila. Not a neckbeard or a catlady with slightly better morals and a lot of creative excuses to explain away the emptiness and pointlessness of his existence.

Ghenghis Khan and Attila the Hun are you f***ing kidding me? You mean history's biggest thugs and degenerates? A thug who happened to lead an army is not a traditionalist just because he happened to live in the past. These men have no legacy except rape and murder. You might as well have pointed to MS-13 members or street thugs as great examples of traditionalists because they are anti-feminists.

All of this sounds like quintessential, faux traditionalist, right-leaning liberal nonsense. "I'm a man of means so I deserve multiple women!" Bullshit, the church would've had half your wealth forfeited in the past. Many right-leaning liberals seem under the impression that rich men were allowed mistresses in the past but this wasn't true. The church was just as aggressive about policing the behavior of rich men as they were of peasants. That's the primary reason why Christianity is special. The rules apply equally, you can't get away with being a degenerate while claiming that its your right as a certain kind of man.

https://www.eurocanadians.ca/2020/04/ke ... ility.html

A faux traditionalist would, yes, be the kind of guys who complain about women wanting providers. I don't expect nor want my woman to work. But I usually don't see this nearly as often as I see men who refuse to be loyal to one woman and then make a pathetic excuse to biology as for why they cannot remain faithful.

I saw my father remain faithful his entire marriage without any effort and I remained faithful to my ex girlfriend without any effort either. The shame of cheating on my woman would be the equivalent of cutting my hand off.

The "faux-traditionalist", more than anything, is a man who more or less is the male equivalent of the crazy cat-lady feminist: all high on morals and with very strong viewpoints, but ultimately a genetic dead-end who has a huge wash-list of complaints and reasons as to

That is a very faux traditionalist thing for you to say. Real traditionalists are about morality first, above everything. Real traditionalists have always been about overcoming humanity's bestial nature and sublimating it for the sake of building a more advanced civilization. Liberals have always been about giving into our bestial nature and returning to the law of the jungle where to the victor goes the spoils. Liberals are obsessed with tearing down all the rules of civilization and returning us to a more bestial type system of existence. Your philosophy sounds more in line with liberal philosophy even if you are a provider to your woman then it sounds in line with traditionalism.

My ex had a boyfriend who was just like that. He wanted her to be a stay at home wife and be the provider, but he had no standards for himself and cheated on her several times. He was always flirting with other women whenever he got the chance. Eventually my ex left him because of his behavior. After she left him, he ran off and slept with dozens of women, almost impregnating one. It used to piss me off while we were dating how many times I'd say something to her and found out that rat bastard had said the exact same thing to her. Thankfully, my ex told me at the time she knew I was genuine about it and that her ex was just a fake. That we had a lot of superficial similarities but no similarities deep down.

[Outcast9428]

@Lucas88

I wasn't saying @WilliamSmith is comfortable with it. I'm saying that the women he is talking about are the kind of women men are talking about when they say modern, Western women, in many cases, are just garbage. Literally trying to sleep with their boyfriend's best friend. That is such subhuman behavior it boggles my mind that they think men are such unprincipled and disloyal beasts that they'd go along with something like that. Women like this are often the kind who call men pigs but they are the real pigs.

If I were him, I would've told his friends about their girlfriends' behavior. These women cannot be trusted and should be kicked to the curb.

[Voyager1]

For me it's not a quantity issue but a quality issue. If I found one good one I'd keep her for several years before moving on to the next one.

100 women in 10 years means changing almost every month. That could be exhaustive.

Shemp has a good deal - a paid escort who he was even able to take with him to Moldova. He will tire of her eventually then move to the next one. Nothing wrong with that. She is being compensated.

[HouseMD]

I don't know, man. I could have easily gone just for numbers but I realized that quality of sex far outstrips quantity of partners as a goal. The number of women that can meet my standards is pretty low, so more women inevitably just leads to more disappointment compared to keeping a good one or two around at any given time.

[Outcast9428]

All of this sounds like quintessential, faux traditionalist, right-leaning liberal nonsense. "I'm a man of means so I deserve multiple women!" Bullshit, the church would've had half your wealth forfeited in the past. Many right-leaning liberals seem under the impression that rich men were allowed mistresses in the past but this wasn't true. The church was just as aggressive about policing the behavior of rich men as they were of peasants. That's the primary reason why Christianity is special. The rules apply equally, you can't get away with being a degenerate while claiming that its your right as a certain kind of man.

Nah, that's pretty fundamentally untrue. If you go into history and you look at noblemen and Kings, you'll see that pretty much every Christian King in history had mistresses and fathered bastard offspring by those mistresses. Same with all those Christian noblemen. Richard the Lionheart had a son by a mistress, his brother had a ton of mistresses too. All those Crusaders who went to "Free the Holy Land" f***ed around like crazy in the Middle-East, too, which is why even today Syria has a president with bright blue eyes lol. Hell, even among popes there are about a dozen who are recorded to have had mistresses, sexual relationships, even children. One Pope even made his own grandson a cardinal, and this happened only about 500 years ago lol.

The rules never applied equally. Only in idealistic Biblical parables but not in actual history.

That is a very faux traditionalist thing for you to say. Real traditionalists are about morality first, above everything. Real traditionalists have always been about overcoming humanity's bestial nature and sublimating it for the sake of building a more advanced civilization. Liberals have always been about giving into our bestial nature and returning to the law of the jungle where to the victor goes the spoils. Liberals are obsessed with tearing down all the rules of civilization and returning us to a more bestial type system of existence. Your philosophy sounds more in line with liberal philosophy even if you are a provider to your woman then it sounds in line with traditionalism.

Not exactly. I say liberals want to tear down existing rules and replace them by frankly ridiculous ones in which that "bestial nature" is subdued and rewards are given for low-testosterone men who are pushovers. Hence the whole "transgender" obsession and the feminization of young boys. They want young men to be soft-spoken little cuckolds and not manly men who take what is theirs. "Bestial nature" scares the shit out of them actually, they do not know how to handle it at all so they seek to eradicate it.

My ex had a boyfriend who was just like that. He wanted her to be a stay at home wife and be the provider, but he had no standards for himself and cheated on her several times. He was always flirting with other women whenever he got the chance. Eventually my ex left him because of his behavior. After she left him, he ran off and slept with dozens of women, almost impregnating one. It used to piss me off while we were dating how many times I'd say something to her and found out that rat bastard had said the exact same thing to her. Thankfully, my ex told me at the time she knew I was genuine about it and that her ex was just a fake. That we had a lot of superficial similarities but no similarities deep down.

I'm not "always flirting with other women whenever I get the chance, though. I do have my share of adventures, little side-quests here and there and will continue to do so. Variety is the spice of life. The greatest of Christian Kings throughout history and even the popes, bishops and priests historically couldn't keep it in their pants, either, which goes to show that morality, while important, is not absolute when it comes to men's sexual behavior. There need to be standards obviously but there are grades, there are layers, and levels to all of this.

As for me being a "right-leaning liberal", I am not sure if I agree with that assessment. Afterall for a man to be 'liberal' he would have to give certain rights to women. I'm not all too enthusiastic about giving them any. But then I've personally always been more "Taliban" than "Crusader Kings" anyway.

That is not true, Kevin Macdonald looked at 18 kings in England’s history from 1100 to about 1500 or so and found that only 8 of them had mistresses and that most of those 8 were before 1300. The more control the church had the more aggressive they became about policing the noblemen and royalty. King Henry VIII had to completely establish his own church just to get away from the Catholic Church’s attempts to control his sexual behavior.

People like to mention the popes but they can only think of the Borgias.

Liberals make fun of trannies all the time, you’re confusing liberals with progressives. Being high in testosterone doesn’t make you act like a beast. Nobody should feel proud of themselves for resembling a chimpanzee in behavior.

That whole “it’s cool if men are promiscuous but not if women are” is the bread and butter of right leaning liberal ideology. That whole bullshit about keys and locks is something they are obsessed with. There is no lesser degree of moral evil when a man sleeps around compared to when a woman does. Every man who sleeps around is empowering the same behavior from women. A man who sleeps around supports women acting like whores whether he vocally says so or not.

[CaptainSkelebob]

Ive become a bit of a traditionalist myself lately in a manner of speaking
I have already achieved this guys dream and banged over 100 women
Probably got kids everywhere
But now Ive decided I want a Thai bride
Someone who is completely subservient to me and knows a womans role in the household......................... and I'd probably still bang other women on the side.

[Outcast9428]

Ive become a bit of a traditionalist myself lately in a manner of speaking
I have already achieved this guys dream and banged over 100 women
Probably got kids everywhere
But now Ive decided I want a Thai bride
Someone who is completely subservient to me and knows a womans role in the household......................... and I'd probably still bang other women on the side.

Then you’re not a traditionalist. You’re just another degenerate pretending to be. Quite frankly men like you don’t deserve a wife.

[Outcast9428]

Christ alive, to go from Hungary to this forum just goes to show how rotten to the core Anglo countries really are. In Hungary I had no trouble finding conservatives who walk the talk and are fully committed to it. My tour guide was ranting about how men who slept around ruin girls for the rest of us and how he doesn’t want to clean up another man’s shit. Hungary was the first society I’ve ever seen where hookups are disapproved of by the majority of society. It’s not even just “the conservatives” who dislike them there. In Hungary being anti hookups is just the default.

Then I come to this stinking, God forsaken place and none of the so called conservatives here are capable of following even the most basic principles of being a conservative and brag about cheating on their wives.

@Lucas88 All I can say is that I vastly prefer guys like you over this disgusting bunch of hypocrites who act entitled to cheating on their wives.

[HouseMD]

Christ alive, to go from Hungary to this forum just goes to show how rotten to the core Anglo countries really are. In Hungary I had no trouble finding conservatives who walk the talk and are fully committed to it. My tour guide was ranting about how men who slept around ruin girls for the rest of us and how he doesn’t want to clean up another man’s shit. Hungary was the first society I’ve ever seen where hookups are disapproved of by the majority of society. It’s not even just “the conservatives” who dislike them there. In Hungary being anti hookups is just the default.

Then I come to this stinking, God forsaken place and none of the so called conservatives here are capable of following even the most basic principles of being a conservative and brag about cheating on their wives.

@Lucas88 All I can say is that I vastly prefer guys like you over this disgusting bunch of hypocrites who act entitled to cheating on their wives.

Weird, Hungary wasn't like that at all when I went there a few years back. I mean it was somewhat conservative, sure, but the women were actually pretty wild. Hungary didn't have such a high abortion rate because they were keeping it in their pants, my friend.

[flowerthief01]

That whole “it’s cool if men are promiscuous but not if women are” is the bread and butter of right leaning liberal ideology. That whole bullshit about keys and locks is something they are obsessed with. There is no lesser degree of moral evil when a man sleeps around compared to when a woman does. Every man who sleeps around is empowering the same behavior from women. A man who sleeps around supports women acting like whores whether he vocally says so or not.

THIS. It was always obvious to me that that lock and key nonsense was an excuse to justify what they already wanted to do or were already doing. And I'm not even a conservative.

Then you’re not a traditionalist. You’re just another degenerate pretending to be. Quite frankly men like you don’t deserve a wife.

A degenerate and worse. "Probably" having kids everywhere (or even anywhere) and not knowing it is unethical and reprehensible to begin with, and anyone who "lays over 100 women" is that by definition, because how then would you even know where kids of yours might be? Even knowing that there's just one kid you're not taking care of drops my respect for a person (man or woman, it doesn't matter) by a thousand leagues.

Oh wait...does that include our dear leader? *hand on mouth in shock* If that were so then there would be no mystery how a forum started by a degenerate got to become full of degenerates.

[Outcast9428]

Christ alive, to go from Hungary to this forum just goes to show how rotten to the core Anglo countries really are. In Hungary I had no trouble finding conservatives who walk the talk and are fully committed to it. My tour guide was ranting about how men who slept around ruin girls for the rest of us and how he doesn’t want to clean up another man’s shit. Hungary was the first society I’ve ever seen where hookups are disapproved of by the majority of society. It’s not even just “the conservatives” who dislike them there. In Hungary being anti hookups is just the default.

Then I come to this stinking, God forsaken place and none of the so called conservatives here are capable of following even the most basic principles of being a conservative and brag about cheating on their wives.

@Lucas88 All I can say is that I vastly prefer guys like you over this disgusting bunch of hypocrites who act entitled to cheating on their wives.

Weird, Hungary wasn't like that at all when I went there a few years back. I mean it was somewhat conservative, sure, but the women were actually pretty wild. Hungary didn't have such a high abortion rate because they were keeping it in their pants, my friend.

Damn it must have changed fast. I went to the nightclubs and bars there and it was the tamest nightlife experiences I’d ever had. I didn’t see anybody hooking up or grinding or anything. The people were mostly young people too. Almost all of them looked 18-25 or so.

[HouseMD]

Christ alive, to go from Hungary to this forum just goes to show how rotten to the core Anglo countries really are. In Hungary I had no trouble finding conservatives who walk the talk and are fully committed to it. My tour guide was ranting about how men who slept around ruin girls for the rest of us and how he doesn’t want to clean up another man’s shit. Hungary was the first society I’ve ever seen where hookups are disapproved of by the majority of society. It’s not even just “the conservatives” who dislike them there. In Hungary being anti hookups is just the default.

Then I come to this stinking, God forsaken place and none of the so called conservatives here are capable of following even the most basic principles of being a conservative and brag about cheating on their wives.

@Lucas88 All I can say is that I vastly prefer guys like you over this disgusting bunch of hypocrites who act entitled to cheating on their wives.

Weird, Hungary wasn't like that at all when I went there a few years back. I mean it was somewhat conservative, sure, but the women were actually pretty wild. Hungary didn't have such a high abortion rate because they were keeping it in their pants, my friend.

Damn it must have changed fast. I went to the nightclubs and bars there and it was the tamest nightlife experiences I’d ever had. I didn’t see anybody hooking up or grinding or anything. The people were mostly young people too. Almost all of them looked 18-25 or so.

Were you in Budapest? That was the party capital of Europe around 10 years ago, sad to hear if it's fallen so far. Though I guess it does show that degeneracy can be reversed if so.

[Outcast9428]

Christ alive, to go from Hungary to this forum just goes to show how rotten to the core Anglo countries really are. In Hungary I had no trouble finding conservatives who walk the talk and are fully committed to it. My tour guide was ranting about how men who slept around ruin girls for the rest of us and how he doesn’t want to clean up another man’s shit. Hungary was the first society I’ve ever seen where hookups are disapproved of by the majority of society. It’s not even just “the conservatives” who dislike them there. In Hungary being anti hookups is just the default.

Then I come to this stinking, God forsaken place and none of the so called conservatives here are capable of following even the most basic principles of being a conservative and brag about cheating on their wives.

@Lucas88 All I can say is that I vastly prefer guys like you over this disgusting bunch of hypocrites who act entitled to cheating on their wives.

Weird, Hungary wasn't like that at all when I went there a few years back. I mean it was somewhat conservative, sure, but the women were actually pretty wild. Hungary didn't have such a high abortion rate because they were keeping it in their pants, my friend.

Damn it must have changed fast. I went to the nightclubs and bars there and it was the tamest nightlife experiences I’d ever had. I didn’t see anybody hooking up or grinding or anything. The people were mostly young people too. Almost all of them looked 18-25 or so.

Were you in Budapest? That was the party capital of Europe around 10 years ago, sad to hear if it's fallen so far. Though I guess it does show that degeneracy can be reversed if so.

Yup I was in Budapest. Even Budapest feels conservative. My tour guide also talked about how families should not have two careers and that women should be at home while we were standing on a crowded bus .