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He actually got off a lot better than most of guys who got stung by real "To Catch a Predator". Even the guys on the earliest shows before they started cooperating with law enforcement would have become widely known given the popularity of the show and exposure of the vids.Anti-American wrote:
That is unless law enforcement see the vid and decide to follow-up, collect the evidence, and prosecute him.
There's a difference between Ephebophilia and Pedophilia.Anti-American wrote:
Pedophilia Wikipedia wrote:prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger, though specific diagnostic criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13
This is the insanity of modern society. Anyone who likes 18~19 year olds is an "Ebophile", a purely abstract concept. It's legal to date 18~19 year olds but illegal to date 15~17 year olds. The age limit was raised to 18 purely to correspond with high school graduation.Ephebophilia Wikipedia wrote:Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
Mid-to-late adolescents usually have physical characteristics near (or in some cases, identical) to that of full-grown adults
But this doesn't change evolution. Men are hard wired to want developed teens. This is why fashion advertisers insist on using underage girls in ads:

Kate Moss is 16 in this photo.
Just goes to show you how insane modern society is. It's legal to whore our daughters out to advertising execs to sell jeans but it's illegal to give our daughters traditional marriages. We reward the scumbags of the earth with virgins, but hard working men are given left over infertile single moms.
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Quit making this about the age of the adult male. This is about the age of a child girl. High school students need to focus on their future and college. While it'd be nice for the woman to be able to stay home, that just doesn't work financially for a lot of couples in the USA anymore. All any US citizen needs to know when traveling abroad is to leave the girls under 18 the heck alone. That's the end of the conversation. We don't need to have this conversation every week here. It's a serious crime and you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you could end up paying a high bribe or spending a lot of time in a foreign prison. Case closed.drealm wrote:If my daughter dressed like a slut I would expect every man to "perv" on her. And I would see this as my own moral failing for not guiding her to dress modestly. I wouldn't hold any man accountable for staring at her just like I wouldn't hold a dog accountable for drooling over a steak.travelsouth wrote:see momopi's post. you'd knock an old man out if he was perving on your daughter faster than Red Forman. And after you were done beating his azz he'd be off to prison to have his azz pounded.drealm wrote:In other words you would prefer your daughter to get knocked up by a high school kiddo rather than marry her off to an established man who's already sewn his oats that can guarantee her protection, sustenance and attention?travelsouth wrote:The 18 year old law we have in the States I fully agree with. This is such a double standard because you guys wouldn't want older men perving on your 16 and 17 year old daughters. I have little sympathy for men unsure if the woman is 17 or 18. Most on here are 30, 40, 50 plus so what in the heck is wrong with a single 22 year old woman? Leave the kids alone. Even if the locals mess around with the teenagers I don't see the point in it. Plenty of young adult women to date or pick-up at a hooker bar if that's your thing.
However if my daughter was dressed modestly, I would take equal offense to anyone trying to seduce her.
I certainly don't have an issue though with an established older man of good character asking my permission to court my daughter. An older man is much more interested in marriage than a high school dweeb is.
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Tell me how your rational argument works out of a prison cell. If life was fair we wouldn't have to go overseas for good women. Life is not fair.drealm wrote:There's a difference between Ephebophilia and Pedophilia.Anti-American wrote:
Pedophilia Wikipedia wrote:prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger, though specific diagnostic criteria for the disorder extends the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13This is the insanity of modern society. Anyone who likes 18~19 year olds is an "Ebophile", a purely abstract concept. It's legal to date 18~19 year olds but illegal to date 15~17 year olds. The age limit was raised to 18 purely to correspond with high school graduation.Ephebophilia Wikipedia wrote:Ephebophilia is the primary or exclusive adult sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19.
Mid-to-late adolescents usually have physical characteristics near (or in some cases, identical) to that of full-grown adults
But this doesn't change evolution. Men are hard wired to want developed teens. This is why fashion advertisers insist on using underage girls in ads:
Kate Moss is 16 in this photo.
Just goes to show you how insane modern society is. It's legal to whore our daughters out to advertising execs to sell jeans but it's illegal to give our daughters traditional marriages. We reward the scumbags of the earth with virgins, but hard working men are given left over infertile single moms.
Philippines specific it is strange that until this decade the graduation age was 16 while the age of consent was 18. Meanwhile it is still 25 to marry without parental consent and officially given advice thus giving parents an opportunity to talk their child out of it.drealm wrote:
This is the insanity of modern society. Anyone who likes 18~19 year olds is an "Ebophile", a purely abstract concept. It's legal to date 18~19 year olds but illegal to date 15~17 year olds. The age limit was raised to 18 purely to correspond with high school graduation.
But this doesn't change evolution. Men are hard wired to want developed teens. This is why fashion advertisers insist on using underage girls in ads:
Kate Moss is 16 in this photo.
Just goes to show you how insane modern society is. It's legal to whore our daughters out to advertising execs to sell jeans but it's illegal to give our daughters traditional marriages. We reward the scumbags of the earth with virgins, but hard working men are given left over infertile single moms.
Yes this is about the child. The state is not a child's father is it? It has no right to determine anything about your flesh and blood. It's a domestic terrorist organization that abducts our children and seeks to turn our daughters into whores. College is nothing but a training whore house. If you accept slavery then by all means put your faith in a system that seeks to rape your daughter.travelsouth wrote:Quit making this about the age of the adult male. This is about the age of a child girl. High school students need to focus on their future and college. While it'd be nice for the woman to be able to stay home, that just doesn't work financially for a lot of couples in the USA anymore. All any US citizen needs to know when traveling abroad is to leave the girls under 18 the heck alone. That's the end of the conversation. We don't need to have this conversation every week here. It's a serious crime and you shouldn't put yourself in a situation where you could end up paying a high bribe or spending a lot of time in a foreign prison. Case closed.drealm wrote:If my daughter dressed like a slut I would expect every man to "perv" on her. And I would see this as my own moral failing for not guiding her to dress modestly. I wouldn't hold any man accountable for staring at her just like I wouldn't hold a dog accountable for drooling over a steak.travelsouth wrote:see momopi's post. you'd knock an old man out if he was perving on your daughter faster than Red Forman. And after you were done beating his azz he'd be off to prison to have his azz pounded.drealm wrote:In other words you would prefer your daughter to get knocked up by a high school kiddo rather than marry her off to an established man who's already sewn his oats that can guarantee her protection, sustenance and attention?travelsouth wrote:The 18 year old law we have in the States I fully agree with. This is such a double standard because you guys wouldn't want older men perving on your 16 and 17 year old daughters. I have little sympathy for men unsure if the woman is 17 or 18. Most on here are 30, 40, 50 plus so what in the heck is wrong with a single 22 year old woman? Leave the kids alone. Even if the locals mess around with the teenagers I don't see the point in it. Plenty of young adult women to date or pick-up at a hooker bar if that's your thing.
However if my daughter was dressed modestly, I would take equal offense to anyone trying to seduce her.
I certainly don't have an issue though with an established older man of good character asking my permission to court my daughter. An older man is much more interested in marriage than a high school dweeb is.
In a real community the cost of raising a family is much lower because functions like daycare are collectivized by mothers.
The law is clear in the United States. If a person goes abroad and sleeps with someone under 18 they will be persecuted as a pedofile even if they are an ephebophile, even if it's legal abroad, even if parents approved of it. Swizterland was an example of such a country up till 2013, P4P was legal with 16 year olds but if you were a US citizen you would still be persecuted. It's one of the only laws I know of where you'll be persecuted outside the United States even if local laws gave consent.
Let's be clear, I'm not advocating breaking the law. I wouldn't advocate anyone breaking a law I think they'll be caught for. Anyone who goes abroad and dips below the age line has a high chance of being caught.
I'm saying it's natural to be attracted to developed girls and it's an insane to be persecuted for this. A traditional marriage alternative protects girls, whereas mainstream academia turns them into sluts. I don't care how many liberal terrorists try shaming men for wanting to protect daughters with traditional marriage. The age marker is an insane ideology trumpeted by degenerates that will leave to a depopulated civilization.
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A lot of misinformation being slung around here. In a large number of states the age of consent
is under 18- as low as 15 in fact. Additionally, there are a lot of states where a girl may marry
under 18 with parental consent.
That said, the ambitions of the emerging police state know no bounds...
Outwest
is under 18- as low as 15 in fact. Additionally, there are a lot of states where a girl may marry
under 18 with parental consent.
That said, the ambitions of the emerging police state know no bounds...
Outwest
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You are now apart of the misinformation. If you are a US citizen and you sleep with a woman under 18 in your travels you have just committed a crime. So the girl is fully developed. I'm not ragging on anyone for making the obvious point that teens are idolized in magazines or it can be hard to tell which girl is 17 versus 19. All I am saying is these damn threads about skirting this issue are just dumb and they are getting old. Someone starts a thread about minors and the automatic response should be to check and make sure any girl you are seeing is at least 18 years of age. That's pretty much the end of the story.OutWest wrote:A lot of misinformation being slung around here. In a large number of states the age of consent
is under 18- as low as 15 in fact. Additionally, there are a lot of states where a girl may marry
under 18 with parental consent.
That said, the ambitions of the emerging police state know no bounds...
Outwest
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What I've highlighted in your post ends the discussion. Game over. Let's move on to talking about women you can legally see.drealm wrote:
The law is clear in the United States. If a person goes abroad and sleeps with someone under 18 they will be persecuted as a pedofile even if they are an ephebophile, even if it's legal abroad, even if parents approved of it.
The discussion ends when a moderator closes it. If you don't want to discuss - don't discuss. If want to talk about other women - go do it. No one's forcing anything on you.travelsouth wrote:What I've highlighted in your post ends the discussion. Game over. Let's move on to talking about women you can legally see.drealm wrote:
The law is clear in the United States. If a person goes abroad and sleeps with someone under 18 they will be persecuted as a pedofile even if they are an ephebophile, even if it's legal abroad, even if parents approved of it.
It's interesting how things have changed. My great grandmother married at 13 in the USA. My grandmother married at 15 (still married to the same man). My mother married at 18 (still married to the same man). When did the law change? You could marry before the age of 18 WITH parental consent at one point. It really seems that women don't want to do that anymore anyway (women usually wait until mid-twenties at youngest) in the USA.
Another thing to consider is that my great grandmother, my grandmother and my mother ALL married as virgins. Perhaps you could marry under the age of 18, but couldn't have sex with someone under the age of 18 unless you were married to them? Perhaps marriage made them "adult" according to the law even though they were under the age of 18...
Another thing to consider is that my great grandmother, my grandmother and my mother ALL married as virgins. Perhaps you could marry under the age of 18, but couldn't have sex with someone under the age of 18 unless you were married to them? Perhaps marriage made them "adult" according to the law even though they were under the age of 18...
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The site and your ISP will cooperate with law enforcement and beyond that they have to turn over your info with a warrant. What additional information would you like to provide us about your experience with women under the age of 18 overseas?drealm wrote:The discussion ends when a moderator closes it. If you don't want to discuss - don't discuss. If want to talk about other women - go do it. No one's forcing anything on you.travelsouth wrote:What I've highlighted in your post ends the discussion. Game over. Let's move on to talking about women you can legally see.drealm wrote:
The law is clear in the United States. If a person goes abroad and sleeps with someone under 18 they will be persecuted as a pedofile even if they are an ephebophile, even if it's legal abroad, even if parents approved of it.
What "experience"? Which "women"? Where "overseas"?travelsouth wrote:The site and your ISP will cooperate with law enforcement and beyond that they have to turn over your info with a warrant. What additional information would you like to provide us about your experience with women under the age of 18 overseas?drealm wrote:The discussion ends when a moderator closes it. If you don't want to discuss - don't discuss. If want to talk about other women - go do it. No one's forcing anything on you.travelsouth wrote:What I've highlighted in your post ends the discussion. Game over. Let's move on to talking about women you can legally see.drealm wrote:
The law is clear in the United States. If a person goes abroad and sleeps with someone under 18 they will be persecuted as a pedofile even if they are an ephebophile, even if it's legal abroad, even if parents approved of it.
Have any more loaded question fallacies?
By the way have you stopped beating your wife?
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