Why Men Should Never Go Into Monk Mode

[jamesbond]

Caleb Jones explains why men should never go into monk mode.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Most men don't become monks by choice. They do so because their options are so shitty that it's better to just become a hermit. Society now is completely hostile towards the majority of men.

Another one of these manosphere alphabet soup grifters telling you what you should or shouldn't do.

Isn't that a sign of a feminine mindset, telling a man what he should/shouldn't be doing?

I agree with Mercer.....most guys don't have good options....hell I admit that I don't but I acknowledge it and acknowledge my shortcomings but that doesn't make it better. I realize I have to make changes and likely leave America or move to a place with more attractive women or just get lucky somehow?

When 70% or more of women are overweight/obese and I am of normal size and unwilling to date someone who is unhealthy then what now? I don't think the alpha male grifters have a good answer to this.

I imagine a lot of guys are just checking out and the crazy ass bastards are doing school shootings, assaulting people, raping them, doing pornos, etc.

Now, I think one thing guys have to make the lifestyle work for them. Personally, I don't see escorts because they are largely gross and disease ridden in the US. I prefer to see a specific latina massage therapist who will give me a nice massage with a happy ending at the end.....this might not be legal or ethical to many but I much prefer that than my other options.

[WilliamSmith]

Most men don't become monks by choice. They do so because their options are so shitty that it's better to just become a hermit. Society now is completely hostile towards the majority of men.

Another one of these manosphere alphabet soup grifters telling you what you should or shouldn't do.

Isn't that a sign of a feminine mindset, telling a man what he should/shouldn't be doing?

I see both your points on a lot of this stuff, but on Caleb Jones: I don't think so, I think he's pretty good.
I only found out about Jones lately from jamesbond posting some of his videos on this forum, but I've looked at a lot of his stuff since then and I think his advice is pretty damn solid.
Never heard that about it being a feminine mindset to tell other men what to do (what about sports coaches who never stop blowing hot air yelling at everyone, LOL?), but Jones obviously decided to use the "alpha yelling at betas" approach for teaching learners how to get more successful with women.
The alpha-yelling-at-betas approach is now what I'd do if I was a manosphere coach of some sort (which I'm not / won't be), but when it comes to the actual content of his advice I think it's pretty good stuff even though I disagree with bits and pieces here and there.
And his audience goes to him, obviously, it's not like he's hacking in to people's online video game addict or porn accounts and jumping in to yell his advice at them about how to get the women.

Also FYI to anyone interested: Jones wrote one of the few very promising looking books on handling multiple women in relationships, which I'm pretty keen to read because Jones obviously is not taking the woke/lib beta "polyamoury" approach I've seen promoted in these times that tells guys they should supposedly be fine with being submissive wussies even if they have multiple partners. (If they really want to be submissive wussies and be one of multiple wimpy men all diddling the same dominant woke lib female, of course, fine, that's their choice. But I personally am never going to trust any advice givers on the subject of women who don't emphasize the importance of masculinity.)
I think Jones' book on handling multiple women was called the "Open Relationships Manual" or something like that, but I'm sure it's not hard to find through his sites or blogs or wherever.
"Friends with benefits" may not need much explanation on how to handle it, but keeping multiple women happy in quasi-serious relationships, or even living with multiple women in-house, is definitely an area I am keen to learn what I can about from men with years more experience in that area, because that's the kind of thing where you can't just use logic or intuition to handle masterfully, even if you've learned a thing or two about how to make women happy one-on-one.

[OutcastedPhilosopher]

Most men don't become monks by choice. They do so because their options are so shitty that it's better to just become a hermit. Society now is completely hostile towards the majority of men.

Another one of these manosphere alphabet soup grifters telling you what you should or shouldn't do.

Isn't that a sign of a feminine mindset, telling a man what he should/shouldn't be doing?

I see both your points on a lot of this stuff, but on Caleb Jones: I don't think so, I think he's pretty good.
I only found out about Jones lately from jamesbond posting some of his videos on this forum, but I've looked at a lot of his stuff since then and I think his advice is pretty damn solid.
Never heard that about it being a feminine mindset to tell other men what to do (what about sports coaches who never stop blowing hot air yelling at everyone, LOL?), but Jones obviously decided to use the "alpha yelling at betas" approach for teaching learners how to get more successful with women.
The alpha-yelling-at-betas approach is now what I'd do if I was a manosphere coach of some sort (which I'm not / won't be), but when it comes to the actual content of his advice I think it's pretty good stuff even though I disagree with bits and pieces here and there.
And his audience goes to him, obviously, it's not like he's hacking in to people's online video game addict or porn accounts and jumping in to yell his advice at them about how to get the women.

Also FYI to anyone interested: Jones wrote one of the few very promising looking books on handling multiple women in relationships, which I'm pretty keen to read because Jones obviously is not taking the woke/lib beta "polyamoury" approach I've seen promoted in these times that tells guys they should supposedly be fine with being submissive wussies even if they have multiple partners. (If they really want to be submissive wussies and be one of multiple wimpy men all diddling the same dominant woke lib female, of course, fine, that's their choice. But I personally am never going to trust any advice givers on the subject of women who don't emphasize the importance of masculinity.)
I think Jones' book on handling multiple women was called the "Open Relationships Manual" or something like that, but I'm sure it's not hard to find through his sites or blogs or wherever.
"Friends with benefits" may not need much explanation on how to handle it, but keeping multiple women happy in quasi-serious relationships, or even living with multiple women in-house, is definitely an area I am keen to learn what I can about from men with years more experience in that area, because that's the kind of thing where you can't just use logic or intuition to handle masterfully, even if you've learned a thing or two about how to make women happy one-on-one.

Lol.....nothing against you but didn't this clown have a blog called the blackdragonblog or something like that?

I remember reading a couple things and he was talking about having multiple women and I saw a few of them and they were nothing to be proud of at all. Plus, I think a few were actually single mothers and he was giving them money and stuff and trying to justify it.

I really don't trust any of these manosphere grifters.

[WilliamSmith]

@OutcastedPhilosopher yeah I think he did call himself "black dragon" as an online PUA handle.
*shrugs*
It's up to each guy who he wants to spend time listening to and giving benefit of the doubt, but I still think a lot of his advice I listened to while messing with a stock screener seemed fairly solid based on my experience, even if my own experience isn't vast enough to want to set myself up as a coach and then get yelled at by MGTOW, LOL.
(I just listened to his monk mode video right now the same way, and pretty much agree with what he's saying in that one too.)

You're right we always have to take a leap of faith when it comes to online influencers and what women they actually get (well unless you go to some "seminar" and actually see them being magnetic with women in person and know the women weren't plants, LOL), but for what it's worth:
I did notice Jones had some interviews with one of his wives, and she was pretty hot for those of you who like blond barbie-like women, and she seemed nice to me, though I was not paying close attention.

I don't think there's anything unreasonable or wrong about what you described with the massage therapist arrangement (@Lucas88 and @Winston also think p4p is OK), but some of us tick differently and crave women's affection and love, as well as being horny bastards who need to get laid. @Outcast9428 obviously differs from me in a lot of ways, but he also talks about how he loved being affectionate with his hot ex-stripper girlfriend and wrote some interesting things about how he hated PUA/hookup culture because he thought it contributed to "avoidant attachment styles." I'd never thought of it that way, but it was interesting.

[WilliamSmith]

Oh yeah, that reminds me: I think I remember Jones said you should never listen to any manosphere influencer or dating coach giving advice about women unless they've nailed at least 30 women, LOL.
I do like Jones from what I've seen, but don't ask me how these cerebral kind of guys would actually come up with that specific number of women.
But hey, at least that lets me off the hook via disqualification since I like/love girlfriends but haven't notched the belt up to that many women yet. I might never, assuming I can actually keep girlfriends around long enough to not have to keep hitting the streets chasing more until I hit Jones' magic # of 30 different women LOL.

Well, talking about it this much has made me curious, I guess I'm going to spend even more time on this forum today making new threads about this and try to find that video, LOL, I find this subject pretty damned entertaining.

Also: Jones is big on yelling at "betas" on how to get yourself self-employed, and I agree with him there too. I wouldn't be able to mess around having so much fun on Winston's forum while researching expat stuff if I had to work a daily grind 5 days a week and come home tired.

[jamesbond]

Here is Caleb Jones explaining why dating hot girls isn't about SMV.