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Hello,

I am a new reader of happierabroad and I have to say that I really enjoy the frankness found on these forums. Winston and co don't mess around. I am a 37 year old surgeon of cantonese descent (however I was adopted by a white family and have an English last name). I am also only 5'5 on a good day. Not to sound shallow, but I had always envisioned being able to attract women with my status and salary (which is good, but by no means 7 figures). However my height seems to be an incredibly huge dealbreaker. I believe I am fairly confident, as I would have to be in my line of work so everytime someone says "Dude it's your confidence," I think they are straight bsing. True story, I had once asked out a nurse who I thought was one of the friendliest people I had ever known in a hospital setting. She turned to me and said, "maybe if you perform surgery on yourself to get taller." And she was 5'3...

My question to all of you is should I continue to try to get women in the States, and if so how should I go about it to maximize my success? I don't have much free time and it's damn annoying coming home looking for some interaction and finding nothing but loneliness.

dammmm you should be able to get girls for sure with your doctor status alone.

however, my advice would be to focus on woman your height or shorter!

chasing any chick taller than you will not likely be in your favor.

only 5'5" or shorter chicks & you should be in good shape. good luck

ShortDoctor37 wrote:My question to all of you is should I continue to try to get women in the States...

No. Lurk around on this site a bit and you will understand why we go abroad to find women.

ShortDoctor37 wrote:Hello,

I am a new reader of happierabroad and I have to say that I really enjoy the frankness found on these forums. Winston and co don't mess around. I am a 37 year old surgeon of cantonese descent (however I was adopted by a white family and have an English last name). I am also only 5'5 on a good day. Not to sound shallow, but I had always envisioned being able to attract women with my status and salary (which is good, but by no means 7 figures). However my height seems to be an incredibly huge dealbreaker. I believe I am fairly confident, as I would have to be in my line of work so everytime someone says "Dude it's your confidence," I think they are straight bsing. True story, I had once asked out a nurse who I thought was one of the friendliest people I had ever known in a hospital setting. She turned to me and said, "maybe if you perform surgery on yourself to get taller." And she was 5'3...

My question to all of you is should I continue to try to get women in the States, and if so how should I go about it to maximize my success? I don't have much free time and it's damn annoying coming home looking for some interaction and finding nothing but loneliness.

Wow, you're a doctor and you can't even get a women! How could a short nurse like that diss a guy like you? Was she Asian...because if so, it wouldn't surprise me. Like I always, say...being an Asian man ain't easy in this world.

She was white. I actually have a thing for eastern european women in this country, but even they are hesitant due to my height. And I don't pursue anyone over 5'5. I have went after some asian women, but the only ones that really give me the time of day are the ladies who have let themselves go and I figured I've work too hard to have to put up with a morbidly obese travesty waiting for me at home.

One thing I've noticed about white women in this country are that I have yet to meet one that is truly a great person. They all talk about how they are sick of the games and want a nice guy, but the more I look at it they just want someone to show off to the rest of their friends to justify their femininity. They like surgeons, don't get me wrong, but if you are 5'5, they look at you like you are pretty much dirt. What's the point of dating a surgeon if he's too short to show off to your friends? If you are 6'0 and a surgeon, then it's on I guess.

ShortDoctor37 wrote:She was white. I actually have a thing for eastern european women in this country, but even they are hesitant due to my height. And I don't pursue anyone over 5'5. I have went after some asian women, but the only ones that really give me the time of day are the ladies who have let themselves go and I figured I've work too hard to have to put up with a morbidly obese travesty waiting for me at home.

One thing I've noticed about white women in this country are that I have yet to meet one that is truly a great person. They all talk about how they are sick of the games and want a nice guy, but the more I look at it they just want someone to show off to the rest of their friends to justify their femininity. They like surgeons, don't get me wrong, but if you are 5'5, they look at you like you are pretty much dirt. What's the point of dating a surgeon if he's too short to show off to your friends? If you are 6'0 and a surgeon, then it's on I guess.

I'm 5'11 Asian male and even I have trouble getting females. As for white women, you have to realize in Western countries, everything is a competition; in other words, everything is predicated on status, looks, height, race, etc. American women (of all races) tend to be very selfish (even though many of them deny this). In fact, overseas women are just as bad as American women--contrary to some people's opinion here--though not as bad in this regard. White culture also looks down on Asian men, so prepare to be rejected often. Of course, there are the few exceptions, as some White women really like Asian men. Just do your best to find those White women that like Asian men and go after them if you really like them.

Are all overseas women this bad as well?

Welcome!

Being a doctor isn't an automatic pass for picking up women - plenty of engineers, lawyers, and other six-figure folks have trouble getting women. Now here is one thread about how a respectable doctor and medical researcher got kicked out of a bookstore by a female customer.
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In your case, it would be good to date educated women from other countries. Many of them find themselves chronically single because their educational attainments exceed those of most men in their home countries.

I'm shorter than you and have no problem getting women abroad.

ShortDoctor37 wrote:Are all overseas women this bad as well?

Absolutely not. You're a 5'5" DOCTOR. I know there are tons of beautiful women that would want to get with you here in Thailand. I'm not talking about bar slags or ugly short brown and round women with aboriginal faces. I'm talking about tall, curvaceous, and glamorous looking women that would be just fine with you.

I highly suggest that you create a profile and try it out or use some of that massive income of yours and go abroad on trips when you have the time.

I think zboy is very wrong about this. I have spent much more time abroad than he has and it's night and day difference when it comes to dating.

Repatriate wrote:

ShortDoctor37 wrote:Are all overseas women this bad as well?

Absolutely not. You're a 5'5" DOCTOR. I know there are tons of beautiful women that would want to get with you here in Thailand. I'm not talking about bar slags or ugly short brown and round women with aboriginal faces. I'm talking about tall, curvaceous, and glamorous looking women that would be just fine with you.

I highly suggest that you create a profile and try it out or use some of that massive income of yours and go abroad on trips when you have the time.

I think zboy is very wrong about this. I have spent much more time abroad than he has and it's night and day difference when it comes to dating.

Well, you're probably right Repatriate. Maybe I'm just way too jaded as a person, LOL. Living in the U.S. can do that to a person...

For your inspiration, my cousin Dennis is a doctor who is about 5ft3 or 5ft4. He got married a few years ago to a taller hot Taiwanese girl who is about 5ft7 or 5ft8 and works as a nutritionist. Her personality is just as dull as his. Not a single interesting meaningful thing ever comes out of their mouths. I posted their wedding pics in this thread:

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Repatriate, if you know some quality Thai women that want him, why don't you introduce him to them? Arrange a correspondence or something.

Short stature can be outweighed by accentuating your masculine charm, and presenting yourself in the most masculine light.

Women like to think they are with a protector. Make them think that with your personality and it may go a long way towards raising your stature (figuratively).

The best solution is to go abroad as mentioned above. American women will ruin you and sap you of your wealth if you ever choose to marry.

Hello ShortDoctor,

Welcome to the forums. I can completely relate to the problems that you are going through. I was kind of a "late bloomer" in terms of height. Even though I'm 6'1" now, I spent probably the first half of high school being about 5'6-7". I know what it's like to get rejected by girls due to height. It feels like a bee sting that drags endlessly across your skin.

As many of the posters already mentioned, I think you will have much better luck with overseas women. At least for now, they don't tend to get caught up in all of the what I call "reality TV values" of the Anglosphere. You have 193 other countries to choose from, so take your pick! Is there any place in particular that you would like to try? What type of woman are you most attracted to?

Also, I know you mentioned you don't pursue women taller than you. Is this because you aren't attracted to them, or have you given up due to rejection? I am not sure I would limit my options if I were you if it's the latter case. How many times do you feel you have been rejected due to your height?

This thread is a good example of what I've been saying all along. Women don't care nearly as much as guys thinks they do about wealth and career success. The latter is important when she's husband hunting or looking for a sugar daddy, but it doesn't factor into real attraction.

I think short height can be compensated for by having an attractive face, the face is more than anything else.