Opinion: Do I look mostly European?

[Yohan]

Pop quiz for you, Yohan. Do you consider gypsies european?

No, they are immigrants from maybe India or nearby, as their language is similar to Hindi and Persian.
Their looks are not European either, and their life-style is not that what most Europeans appreciate.

They are nomads, they are moving around, occupying some land, and finally moving on again and expect locals who are living near to them to clean up after their departure. Negative stereotype, what else do they expect?

[Banano]

George Sodini in the making

[Inter2002]

No you don't look European, you look like a mixed mestizo. You could even pass for Asian IMHO. But who cares'? Why are you so obsessed with this? Learn to accept who you are and stop dwelling on something you can't change, it is completely pointless.

Personally I think you certainly could date a non-racist white girl if that is what you really want, but you have to be realistic. You won't be able to get the absolute hottest 10/10 girl (and neither will most guys on this forum including me ).

Do you mean that I just look like a "mixed Mestizo", or just a "Mestizo"?

Well the reason why I'm so obsessed is because I feel that I need to look more white/European in order to be able to date beautiful white girls.I remember feeling insecure about my race/ethnicity as far back as in 6th grade, that I would pretend to be some southern European(Italian, Greek, Bosnian,Macedonian) when asked about my race. I hate to admit but I was ashamed to associate myself with having some "Indian/Aztec", during my years at high school I would search online how to lighten my skin. One time I asked twice in high school what were the ways to lighten up my skin and there response would be "why don't you ask Michael Jackson?", "aren't you satisfied?". I feel and think that being white and of course good looking, you would feel more confident face less obstacles especially when asking any white girl if you could date, plus white girls would be more approachable. I guess this comes down to feeling foreign, inferior, low self esteem, insecure about my appearance especially my race, really shy especially when socializing. I have little or no social skills due to not having a social life for the past 10 years.

So I see that your saying that we have to be realistic including yourself that you wont get an absolute hottest 10/10 girl. What's your race/ethnicity, and height?

Why is it impossible to date/get laid with a hottest white girl?

[droid]

Marcos and Rock are spot on, you're absolutely clueless man.
The least of your problems right now is your ethnic make up. First take care of that lousy haircut, ill fitting shirt, and pot belly.
And for christ's sake stop pedestalizing blonde chicks, yeah everyone would like to try one since they're so exotic, but it looks pathetic just longing for those; look at asian a and latin girls as well, they're ridiculously hot. Especially since you still have a lot of time, you can try a variety while looking for what you like most or what not.

This also reminds me of Winston, refusing to accept that the pot belly has a huge effect on your attractiveness. I don't have a six pack myself, but at least i look flat with a shirt on.

I understand your situation man, if you're stuck in some suburb in the states, you reach a state of mind where you start micro-judging every little feature of yourself, thus the crazy ideas of fat-grafting etc. I've been in that kind of state.

You just have to improve yourself, plan, execute and get the hell out of dodge, period.

[Inter2002]

I thought of posting a picture to see if you all think based on your experiences if any Hispanic guy that looks like me stands a chance to date white foreign girls at least? I know that I need to lose a great amount of weight. Also I need to get rid of my facial scars, as well as get fat grafting in my face and arms in order to look 18-19ish.

Fat grafting??? Are you kidding me? Come-on now. Facial fat grafting only has downside for someone with a face like yours. Do that and at best, you'll just loose a big chunk of change with little apparent change and at worst, you'll ef' up your face.

You look like a clueless guy, the way I was in college. Almost no girl will be attracted to you with that expression, that haircut, that dress style, that total package. It has nothing to do with looking young in your case, nothing.

Get your shit together mate. Read a simple practical guide like "The Seven Laws of Seduction" and complete all the exercises in full. You have the potential to do great cus there is nothing at all wrong with your base look. The fact that you believe you need fat grafting just shows you don't even have the foggiest. Pathetic if you don't get this cleaned up. You wear your cluelessness on your sleeve.

A guy like you could see a night and day change within months. As per early chapter in that guide, get the low lying fruit handled - get reasonably in shape, dress decently and try to accentuate something about yourself, learn walk, talk, and make facial gestures like a confident man, then get your skills up to speed.

If you talk anymore about fat grafting, I'm gonna ask Winston to ban your a** lol. Seriously, get real and get out of your head. You are your own worst enemy.

What do you mean that fat grafting only has a downside for someone with a face like mine?

Can you tell me what my dress style should be like of that of an 18-20 year old guy?

You mean my whole body by "that total package"?

I've been told by my therapist that I have a monotone voice when I talk that people sometimes confuse with having an accent. I some Aspergers/pdd-nos tendencies due to having OCD. According to my psychologist people with OCD are 7 times more likely to display symptoms of pdd-nos/Aspergers. I feel clumsy whenever I socialize, and I've been told that the solution is to socialize more and practice.

I guess I have or used to have "self hatred", have low self esteem/confidence, poor self image, and struggle with insecurity. I feel like I'm a dark Indian guy wanting to date beautiful white foreign girls, but can't because of my looks.

[Banano]

OP reminds me of one of these guys who attend PUA seminars

OP
Get in shape, lose fat, get haircut and hopefully you will get somewhere but I doubt you ll get anything decent no matter where you go.
Even Russian women want strong mean who can lead them and you look completely hopeless

[Inter2002]

OP reminds me of one of these guys who attend PUA seminars

OP
Get in shape, lose fat, get haircut and hopefully you will get somewhere but I doubt you ll get anything decent no matter where you go.
Even Russian women want strong mean who can lead them and you look completely hopeless

Well as of now I have started on a diet to loose weight. What do you mean that you doubt that I'll get anything decent no matter where I go?

[Inter2002]

Now you all tell me if a guy that looks like this can get get dates with foreign white girls?

Also this person who's Hispanic and one of my Facebook friends. This picture was taken back in 2005 when he was like 21. and here's another picture of him Now would you consider a Hispanic guy that looks just like him being able to date foreign white girls?

In other words do both of these guys stand a better chance than I do if I where thin, changed my hair style, the way that I dress?

[chibolo]

Do you mean that I just look like a "mixed Mestizo", or just a "Mestizo"?

Mestizo = mixed race, amerindian + European. You have a bit of both in you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mestizo

Well the reason why I'm so obsessed is because I feel that I need to look more white/European in order to be able to date beautiful white girls.I remember feeling insecure about my race/ethnicity as far back as in 6th grade, that I would pretend to be some southern European(Italian, Greek, Bosnian,Macedonian) when asked about my race. I hate to admit but I was ashamed to associate myself with having some "Indian/Aztec", during my years at high school I would search online how to lighten my skin. One time I asked twice in high school what were the ways to lighten up my skin and there response would be "why don't you ask Michael Jackson?", "aren't you satisfied?". I feel and think that being white and of course good looking, you would feel more confident face less obstacles especially when asking any white girl if you could date, plus white girls would be more approachable. I guess this comes down to feeling foreign, inferior, low self esteem, insecure about my appearance especially my race, really shy especially when socializing. I have little or no social skills due to not having a social life for the past 10 years.

Your main problem is that you have self esteem and social anxiety issues. And of course things would be easier if you were a 10/10 handsome white guy, but you aren't. Accept it and move on. Focus on other things that you CAN change. And like droid said, stop obsessing over white girls like they are the only attractive women in the world.

[droid]

I've been told by my therapist that I have a monotone voice when I talk that people sometimes confuse with having an accent. I some Aspergers/pdd-nos tendencies due to having OCD. According to my psychologist people with OCD are 7 times more likely to display symptoms of pdd-nos/Aspergers. I feel clumsy whenever I socialize, and I've been told that the solution is to socialize more and practice.

I don't know you, but i venture to say that this is the f*n problem, you don't need a therapist, you just need to get the hell out fast.
Many dudes in America suffer from social isolation and become weird and fall into the mainstram BS of ending up under a therapist etc, when in reality all they really needed was a better environment. I rarely see these artificial "asperger" guys overseas.
Again: research.exercise.and.do.leave.now.

[chibolo]

Here is a video about an ugly, dirty mestizo who gets lots of white girls. Lots of guys like this in Peru (they are called "bricheros") who get white tourists. Some of these guys have more "indian" in them than you.

[Rock]

Rock, you're being too harsh. OP is not ugly. He is just average. When I was in college, there were plenty of guys like him. Not all of them were dateless, they just dated women way uglier than themselves. I am not suggesting OP to do the same. He is average and should get average women at the very least. The problem with no dating prospect lies with the women, not him. In a parallel universe, he would be a caring dad now with two kids.

Did I say he's ugly??? I said he doesn't have his shit together BUT his base look is just fine (what God have him). I was pretty much like that in college too. It's NOT about his inherent looks (the stuff he can't change without surgery) like his facial proportions, symmetry, etc. It's about his expression, dress, shape, and attitude - things he most definitely CAN change.

[droid]

Sorry to be redundant, but like I've posted several times already, these guys in Manizales get some of the hottest white chicks i've seen.
And actually the whiter you are here, the least beautiful the girls you get, from my observations.
http://www.mederock.com/blog/wp-content ... restas.jpg

[Rock]

I thought of posting a picture to see if you all think based on your experiences if any Hispanic guy that looks like me stands a chance to date white foreign girls at least? I know that I need to lose a great amount of weight. Also I need to get rid of my facial scars, as well as get fat grafting in my face and arms in order to look 18-19ish.

Fat grafting??? Are you kidding me? Come-on now. Facial fat grafting only has downside for someone with a face like yours. Do that and at best, you'll just loose a big chunk of change with little apparent change and at worst, you'll ef' up your face.

You look like a clueless guy, the way I was in college. Almost no girl will be attracted to you with that expression, that haircut, that dress style, that total package. It has nothing to do with looking young in your case, nothing.

Get your shit together mate. Read a simple practical guide like "The Seven Laws of Seduction" and complete all the exercises in full. You have the potential to do great cus there is nothing at all wrong with your base look. The fact that you believe you need fat grafting just shows you don't even have the foggiest. Pathetic if you don't get this cleaned up. You wear your cluelessness on your sleeve.

A guy like you could see a night and day change within months. As per early chapter in that guide, get the low lying fruit handled - get reasonably in shape, dress decently and try to accentuate something about yourself, learn walk, talk, and make facial gestures like a confident man, then get your skills up to speed.

If you talk anymore about fat grafting, I'm gonna ask Winston to ban your a** lol. Seriously, get real and get out of your head. You are your own worst enemy.

What do you mean that fat grafting only has a downside for someone with a face like mine?

Can you tell me what my dress style should be like of that of an 18-20 year old guy?

You mean my whole body by "that total package"?

I've been told by my therapist that I have a monotone voice when I talk that people sometimes confuse with having an accent. I some Aspergers/pdd-nos tendencies due to having OCD. According to my psychologist people with OCD are 7 times more likely to display symptoms of pdd-nos/Aspergers. I feel clumsy whenever I socialize, and I've been told that the solution is to socialize more and practice.

I guess I have or used to have "self hatred", have low self esteem/confidence, poor self image, and struggle with insecurity. I feel like I'm a dark Indian guy wanting to date beautiful white foreign girls, but can't because of my looks.

Fat grafting is great for late 30s/early 40s women who have lost facial volume to point of looking older. They don't yet have sagging but can really benefit from just some volume replacement. It's like rough patchwork to fill out depleted cheeks, temple depressions, and other early but significant signs of aging - the ones you get approaching middle age. It's nothing like what you have. Your face is full and youthful.

On the downside, fat grafting is far from a scientifically predictable outcome, more like a dice roll. Even at it's best, it does not completely mimic the perfect smoothness of late teens soft tissue. It's not designed to make a late 20s/early 30s look like a teen again. Depending on how it takes, your final outcome can introduce apparent contour irregularities and unsightly lumpiness. It's somewhat unpredictable, even in the best of hands. For a 40 something female, the potential benefits often outweigh the risks. Not so for a late 20s guy with a full youthful face. Drop that crazy idea. You could seriously end up looking much worse.

Ironically, I think it would help if you, even with the 18-21 set, looked a bit less boyish and a lot more masculine. The nerd in the basement style doesn't work even if you appear to be just 17 lol. A rugged late 20s look will strongly attract a subset of girls in your target age group, at least in certain parts of the world including FSU. I've seen plenty of Russian guys who looked 30s with very attractive same nationality girls who appeared to be late teens. See it every time I go the the Pattaya area.

Voice intonation is but one important component of successful seductions. Read that book I mentioned for starters then come back and we'll have a more meaningful conversation. Don't be too stubborn like Winston sometimes is. Apply the good advice you get here.

Maybe given your circumstances you will 'get it' more slowly. But you have a lot going for you - youth and decent base appearance. How tall are you again (if you already mentioned it)?

Also, please don't obsess about whether or not you're considered white. I know a real life case of a HAer who went to Northern Europe as a dark Indian/Mid Eastern looking guy and did well with several young white women who were up there on the looks scale but at the bottom of age ladder (still adults of course). And he was already past 30 at the time. He achieved all that in just a few short months on his virgin trip!

Certain minority (in USA context) guys get way too caught up imagining that their race or skin color is what's holding them back when in reality, there are often much bigger obstacles they totally miss. It's much more important you get your ducks lined up and get your act together instead of trying to adjust what you pretty much can't change.

[Inter2002]

You need to just accept your age. Right now, you look like a geeky teenager. I say it's better to look like an attractive man in your twenties, then to look like a geeky teenager. Especially since you are ultimately NOT a teenager, and teenagers will sense something "off" about you. You cannot hide your age, Peter Pan is a fairy tale, stop this Michael Jackson nonsense brother and embrace your true self, while accepting your limitations.

No matter how many operations you will have, you will never be Nordic looking. You will look about as Swedish as Michael Jackson looked like a white American man, and you will have wasted thousands of dollars on expensive operations by then, as well as years of your life of what should have been your prime.

If you are approaching thirty and want to hang out in a group of teenagers, but wish to remain youthful looking so that you aren't seen as old... it sounds to me like you are planning on hiding your age\lying about it? Dude, you won't just look like a creep, you kinda are a freak.

I stand by my original advice, for you to get real, start working out, change your diet and try to change your appearance through natural means by exercize and with a better sense of style. And please, please, for the love of God, change that horrid haircut. Put some gel in it, comb it, whatever, but do SOMETHING. All that would help massively, and increase your chance of success with any age group. A 19 year old girl would sooner go for a handsome man in his late twenties, then for a man who looks 18 when pushing thirty. Baby-faced guys command no respect and are not taken seriously.

I'm not saying you are ugly, brother, but you have zero sex appeal right now, and plastic surgeries won't fix that. Lifestyle changes, however, will.

How is it that teenagers 18-19yr olds will sense something "off" about me?

I know that I'll never be Nordic looking with my tan skin color, as well as with my brown eyes. But I can make myself look 75% Caucasian by having a thin nose just like my great grandfather had who he was from Spain. Also have thin lips, plus being 5'11 1/2 ft tall.

If you are approaching thirty and want to hang out in a group of teenagers, but wish to remain youthful looking so that you aren't seen as old... it sounds to me like you are planning on hiding your age\lying about it? Dude, you won't just look like a creep, you kinda are a freak.

Well in order to be approached by a 18-19 year old girls I need to look around 19ish, also if I approach to them I won't be seen as a dirty creep old man. Also I think that American white girls, or foreign white girls prefer to get laid by someone close to their age. Also the thing is that what if there circle of friends see me as a creep. What if the parents of the girl who I'm dating/making out with will not approve of our relationship due to age difference? This is one of the reasons why I want to date foreign white girls, since here in America especially parents frown upon, disapprove their 18-19yr old daughters dating a guy who's in his late twenties. Well you could say in a way I'm planning to lie and hide my real age, and tell my age based on HOW I FEEL ON THE INSIDE, not based on my Chronological Age. I would think that most 18-19yr old teen girls would hang out with me if I look around their age and won't stick like a sore thumb.So what your saying is that I should be honest about my age?

I know that I must change my haircut. I've been reluctant to change my haircut because it makes me look older, also it exposes my ears more.

A 19 year old girl would sooner go for a handsome man in his late twenties, then for a man who looks 18 when pushing thirty. Baby-faced guys command no respect and are not taken seriously.

Would that be the case with Eastern European girls? I know that here in America it's frowned upon and parents discourage their daughters dating someone who's 10-12 years older.

I'm attracted to 18-20 year old girls and I feel that I MISSED THOSE YEARS. As I stated on one of my previous posts that, I'm 28 years old it has been 10 years since I had graduated from high school (Class of 2005), I feel like I missed all the fun that 18-22 year old get to experience especially the college life.Due to circumstances I was not able to experience that from a 9 year time period. So since this is reality not fantasy (i.e time machine travel back to 2005), I have to try my best to to makeup those "lost years" (18-28yrs), from having a life, social life, college life, girlfriends, travel and more.