Did YOU ever feel mad at God for things before?

[vlkmo]

I am talking about God especially in the Christian context, but to a much less extent I guess it can apply to all conceptions of God. Did anyone on here ever feel mad or upset at God because of misfortune or things that are outside of your control? There have been times when I was, both consciously and subconsciously. I know that God isn't directly responsible for bad things and that is the devil, but he allows the devil and his influence to run rampant with no seeming end in sight. @Winston created a couple threads about the influence of good v. evil in our world. I sympathize with some of his frustration.

[Winston]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

[Rygar1]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

The problem of evil is indeed alive and well, and still vigorously debated among certain philosophers. Why does God allow so much suffering? I'm not perfect, but I'm not THAT bad. Etc..but it's still a very good point to make. The problem of evil may be debated on a large scale, macro level, but for small, subjective, personal failure, gods incompetence is usually left out.

[yick]

No, because it is all temporary, life is temporary, I have another 30 years or so left, a nothing timeframe. No use getting mad when most of us are going through the same turmoils. No-one escapes it - though some have it worse than others.

Elon Musk - one of the richest men on the planet - is unhappy all the time and is basically now a drug addict to deal with it. As much of a 'genius' as he is. He doesn't get life is a challenge, it's meant to be hard, it is hard and you got to get through it.

[yick]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

If you believe in the theory of 'NPC's' then you understand the basics of what this is about. It's a hard game on a hard level that you're playing and it's not meant to be easy for you, there's no such thing as an 'easy' marathon run or an easy scaling of Everest - it's meant to be hard and why do people do these things even though it's hard and sometimes people die doing them because that's what makes it exciting, standing there at the end that you have completed it. Who thinks about 'winning' the London Marathon? Very few people, the vast majority who enter it, completing it is 'winning' even if they come last, life is no different, if you complete it, you have won.

You're in a game and until now, you have completed all the levels set for you, whatever has happened hasn't killed you and hasn't stopped you going forward, just keep going. It's not going to get any easier though because that's the game. There are no easy parts of climing Everest, same thing with life.

[Rygar1]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

If you believe in the theory of 'NPC's' then you understand the basics of what this is about. It's a hard game on a hard level that you're playing and it's not meant to be easy for you, there's no such thing as an 'easy' marathon run or an easy scaling of Everest - it's meant to be hard and why do people do these things even though it's hard and sometimes people die doing them because that's what makes it exciting, standing there at the end that you have completed it. Who thinks about 'winning' the London Marathon? Very few people, the vast majority who enter it, completing it is 'winning' even if they come last, life is no different, if you complete it, you have won.

You're in a game and until now, you have completed all the levels set for you, whatever has happened hasn't killed you and hasn't stopped you going forward, just keep going. It's not going to get any easier though because that's the game. There are no easy parts of climing Everest, same thing with life.

Damn, I read that like ten times. That was good. It reminds of the old phrase "ships in a harbor are safe, but that's not what ships are for". I think that may be a big part of my own struggles, always wanting to play it safe, take the easy road, sit in and masterbate instead of actually meeting real women. I understand we all like and crave comfort and security, ie, a sense of certainty, but it can get real boring. Hb2345 said everything in life has a price, you just gotta want to pay it. Taking a certain action entails paying a price, NOT taking a certain has a price, etc.. is the price we pay for any particular action 'worth' the supposed 'reward' we get for it? Methinks sometimes this 'scale' is out of whack.

[yick]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

If you believe in the theory of 'NPC's' then you understand the basics of what this is about. It's a hard game on a hard level that you're playing and it's not meant to be easy for you, there's no such thing as an 'easy' marathon run or an easy scaling of Everest - it's meant to be hard and why do people do these things even though it's hard and sometimes people die doing them because that's what makes it exciting, standing there at the end that you have completed it. Who thinks about 'winning' the London Marathon? Very few people, the vast majority who enter it, completing it is 'winning' even if they come last, life is no different, if you complete it, you have won.

You're in a game and until now, you have completed all the levels set for you, whatever has happened hasn't killed you and hasn't stopped you going forward, just keep going. It's not going to get any easier though because that's the game. There are no easy parts of climing Everest, same thing with life.

Damn, I read that like ten times. That was good. It reminds of the old phrase "ships in a harbor are safe, but that's not what ships are for". I think that may be a big part of my own struggles, always wanting to play it safe, take the easy road, sit in and masterbate instead of actually meeting real women. I understand we all like and crave comfort and security, ie, a sense of certainty, but it can get real boring. Hb2345 said everything in life has a price, you just gotta want to pay it. Taking a certain action entails paying a price, NOT taking a certain has a price, etc.. is the price we pay for any particular action 'worth' the supposed 'reward' we get for it? Methinks sometimes this 'scale' is out of whack.

All rewards are temporary. The benefits you get aren't the reward itself but the journey, like you exercise and lift weights, you don't just stop when you are 220 pounds of muscle and 5 percent body fat because getting there gave you benefits of worth, respect, happiness, feeling alive etc - if you do it correctly or a running regime, how you feel supersedes the end result (whatever that may be...).

When the queen died, she didn't get to take any of her wealth, diamonds, biggest art collection in the world etc - she had to leave it where she left it. Life is short, life is temporary, we're all mortal, we don't have long to do what we want to do. More often than not, you stop yourself from doing things rather than other people stopping you.

Everyone has a journey, a lot of people fall by the wayside because they succumb to vices such as drugs - Elon Musk is now a drug addict because he hates feeling low instead of accepting feeling low is part of the journey we take. The best metaphor of life is the trail of Santiago in Spain where Catholics walk thousands of miles because then they get to understand the meaning of life - the days it rains, the days the sun comes out or the wind is against you, the people you meet on the way, good people, arseholes, some you meet for a minute or two and people you befriend forever but you keep going on the good days and not so good days and you eventually get to your destination of Finisterre (I think...) life is exactly the same, the days you feel low and depressed, just remember it's all temporary because you are and one day it will be all over, just keep going.

The reality is nobody needs to kills themselves - we're all going down that road to that end anyway.

[Rygar1]

Yes I think that many people blame God for all their problems, pain, suffering and injustice in life. But they don't admit it. Because it's taboo to blame God for bad things. You are only allowed to thank God for things that go well, but not allowed to blame him for things that go wrong. It's a classic double standard. That's why people are weird.

Basic logic also says that the creator is responsible for his creation. Hence you have a right to blame the creator if he is top dog in the chain of authority. Just like you have a right to blame Bill Gates for problems with Microsoft products. It's basic logic, but no one seems to have basic logic about these things when it comes to God.

A CEO is responsible for everything that happens in his company. Everyone knows that. No CEO can get away with blaming all his staff and claiming to be perfect. No one would accept that. The board of directors would fire him if he said that. But somehow the God of the Bible gets away with it. Very weird and illogical.

If you believe in the theory of 'NPC's' then you understand the basics of what this is about. It's a hard game on a hard level that you're playing and it's not meant to be easy for you, there's no such thing as an 'easy' marathon run or an easy scaling of Everest - it's meant to be hard and why do people do these things even though it's hard and sometimes people die doing them because that's what makes it exciting, standing there at the end that you have completed it. Who thinks about 'winning' the London Marathon? Very few people, the vast majority who enter it, completing it is 'winning' even if they come last, life is no different, if you complete it, you have won.

You're in a game and until now, you have completed all the levels set for you, whatever has happened hasn't killed you and hasn't stopped you going forward, just keep going. It's not going to get any easier though because that's the game. There are no easy parts of climing Everest, same thing with life.

Damn, I read that like ten times. That was good. It reminds of the old phrase "ships in a harbor are safe, but that's not what ships are for". I think that may be a big part of my own struggles, always wanting to play it safe, take the easy road, sit in and masterbate instead of actually meeting real women. I understand we all like and crave comfort and security, ie, a sense of certainty, but it can get real boring. Hb2345 said everything in life has a price, you just gotta want to pay it. Taking a certain action entails paying a price, NOT taking a certain has a price, etc.. is the price we pay for any particular action 'worth' the supposed 'reward' we get for it? Methinks sometimes this 'scale' is out of whack.

All rewards are temporary. The benefits you get aren't the reward itself but the journey, like you exercise and lift weights, you don't just stop when you are 220 pounds of muscle and 5 percent body fat because getting there gave you benefits of worth, respect, happiness, feeling alive etc - if you do it correctly or a running regime, how you feel supersedes the end result (whatever that may be...).

When the queen died, she didn't get to take any of her wealth, diamonds, biggest art collection in the world etc - she had to leave it where she left it. Life is short, life is temporary, we're all mortal, we don't have long to do what we want to do. More often than not, you stop yourself from doing things rather than other people stopping you.

Everyone has a journey, a lot of people fall by the wayside because they succumb to vices such as drugs - Elon Musk is now a drug addict because he hates feeling low instead of accepting feeling low is part of the journey we take. The best metaphor of life is the trail of Santiago in Spain where Catholics walk thousands of miles because then they get to understand the meaning of life - the days it rains, the days the sun comes out or the wind is against you, the people you meet on the way, good people, arseholes, some you meet for a minute or two and people you befriend forever but you keep going on the good days and not so good days and you eventually get to your destination of Finisterre (I think...) life is exactly the same, the days you feel low and depressed, just remember it's all temporary because you are and one day it will be all over, just keep going.

The reality is nobody needs to kills themselves - we're all going down that road to that end anyway.

Even as a young man, the 'thrill of the chase' was just as, if not a little more so, rewarding than the end result (hook up, sex, etc..) I mean I LOVED the process. Some millionaires, for example, obviously love thier wealth and all it can buy in this world, but many say those days of sleeping on a cot in a studio apartment while building my business was even more fun. It builds character, something that is sorely lacking these days. I look around at the average, run of the mill suburbs I grew up at and it's all the same. Mindless, soulless, angry, humans staring into small electronics all day. Some of these people, one senses, should really hold up a sign proclaiming "the world owes me everything", cause that's the sense i get. Maybe I'm reading into it too much, however. Heck, I'm guilty of it.

Learning how to roll with the punches and go with the flow is very,very, hard. In the comfort of our own homes, we can easily say "yeah, I'm not gonna get worked up, it's not worth it, let it go, etc" , but when someone cuts us off 500 feet from our house, "FU CK INASSHOLE, WHAT THE FU CK YOU FU.." i remind myself it s a LONG process, filled with many downs. Many. You learn to just live with it. My circumstances were mine, and somewhat difficult, and others maybe not as much. Nothing I can do, but to accept it.

Many humans, MrMan being one, put their faith in a higher power. Christ chief among them. I never really 'got' it however. I just never really 'felt' it. Maybe I was just going about it the wrong way. Is there somethingni missing? It seems to provide a lot of comfort and psychological well being to many.