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Even if we accept the virus theory of diseases as true, there is yet another flaw here.

That is that each mask must allow the person to breathe through it, for inhalation and exhalation. Yet "viruses" are much smaller than the pores in the masks through which people breathe. Therefore masks protect from nothing.

Just another proof.

Neo wrote: ↑

October 23rd, 2020, 3:55 pm

Even if we accept the virus theory of diseases as true, there is yet another flaw here.

That is that each mask must allow the person to breathe through it, for inhalation and exhalation. Yet "viruses" are much smaller than the pores in the masks through which people breathe. Therefore masks protect from nothing.

Just another proof.

I noticed you tend to engage in all or nothing thinking. Religion tends to do that to peoples' intellect.

The truth is that masks ATTENUATE the aerosolizing of discharge from people's mouths and nose so that the masks, together with social distancing, tend to prevent more infections. I believe the medical-grade, N95 masks do prevent all discharge from the mouth and nose, but retail masks do not and must be coupled with social distancing to be effective.

Still, if people infect those 2 feet near them instead of everyone within 6 feet because of masks, than that is a very good thing.

Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑

October 23rd, 2020, 9:30 pm

The truth is that masks ATTENUATE the aerosolizing of discharge from people's mouths and nose so that the masks, together with social distancing, tend to prevent more infections. I believe the medical-grade, N95 masks do prevent all discharge from the mouth and nose, but retail masks do not and must be coupled with social distancing to be effective.

As an Uncle Tom House Negro you would of course believe that because the massas tell it so. The CDC actually did a study proving that masks are slightly worse than useless, but you couldn't be expected to investigate that. You were bred to be big, stupid and subservient, and if you were somewhat less stupid than the average breeding stock, they would give a suitable job to you in order to shut out white competition. The more things seem to change the more they stay the same.

It cannot be denied that countries with good medical care and where using masks is widely accepted and whose citizens keep discipline with social distancing and cleanliness show up with a considerably lower infection rate than those countries which citizens ignore/reject any recommended safety rules.

UK has 68 million people and 800.000 infections, 47,000 death,
France has 67 million people and 1000.000 are infected, 34,000 deaths.
United States has 340 million people, almost 9 million people infected, 230,000 deaths

SouthKorea has 53 million people and 26,000 infections, 460 deaths (however SouthKorea has very strict laws and severe restrictions)

Japan has no travel or otherwise restrictions within its territory, 126 million people, 95,000 infections, 1700 deaths.
Japanese people are not forced, but the huge majority follows all recommended rules.

See the difference? Population in UK + France together is about the same as Japan, 1.800.000 infections vs. 95,000 infections - a big difference.
81000 deaths vs. 1700 deaths....

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 23rd, 2020, 10:53 pm

It cannot be denied that countries with good medical care and where using masks is widely accepted and whose citizens keep discipline with social distancing and cleanliness show up with a considerably lower infection rate than those countries which citizens ignore/reject any recommended safety rules.

UK has 68 million people and 800.000 infections, 47,000 death,
France has 67 million people and 1000.000 are infected, 34,000 deaths.
United States has 340 million people, almost 9 million people infected, 230,000 deaths

SouthKorea has 53 million people and 26,000 infections, 460 deaths (however SouthKorea has very strict laws and severe restrictions)

Japan has no travel or otherwise restrictions within its territory, 126 million people, 95,000 infections, 1700 deaths.
Japanese people are not forced, but the huge majority follows all recommended rules.

See the difference? Population in UK + France together is about the same as Japan, 1.800.000 infections vs. 95,000 infections - a big difference.
81000 deaths vs. 1700 deaths....

Correct. It is funny that idiots prefer to get their medical advice from viral social media posts instead of from science. That will eventually catch up with the idiots as it should in a Darwinist kind of way.

Contrarian Expatriate wrote: ↑

October 23rd, 2020, 11:14 pm

Correct. It is funny that idiots prefer to get their medical advice from viral social media posts instead of from science. That will eventually catch up with the idiots as it should in a Darwinist kind of way.

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

The point is as we say here in Japan and in South Korea...'better than nothing' 'do something about it'

Masks - use them, better than nothing

Eye protection - if you work in a clinic or other place like airports, where you might face infected people, use them, better than nothing

We all have National Health insurance - if you don't feel well use it quickly, contact medical doctors, follow their advice, better than nothing

Separation between customer and cashier in supermarkets by plexi-glas - use them, better than nothing

Washing your hands frequently with alcohol or similar fluids - do it, better than nothing

Clean tables and chairs in restaurants with virus-killing fluids - do it, better than nothing...

Keep restrooms very clean, we have washlets almost everywhere and offer additional cleaning fluids - use them, better than nothing...

etc. etc.


This list is by far not complete.

If you and all others next to you follow ALL of these rules, the possibility of being infected is getting clearly smaller - it does not mean that you will never be infected - but if you compare countries which citizens follow these rules with countries which citizens reject them you see clearly the difference.

In my province, a rural area, where I am living in Japan, locals are acting very disciplined, but there are no restrictions, schools are open,shopping malls are open, you can go out to everywhere etc. There are 2 million people, infected totally 194, recovered 162, deaths 1.

Compare that with any similar region worldwide, somewhere else for example
Slovenia in Europe - quite rural - population 2 million people, infected 1,520, deaths 109

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

It is literally the common cold. You should take it with the same degree of seriousness as you always have taken the common cold.

Masks - use them, better than nothing

According to a CDC study, they are slightly worse than nothing.

Cornfed wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

It is literally the common cold. You should take it with the same degree of seriousness as you always have taken the common cold.

Masks - use them, better than nothing

According to a CDC study, they are slightly worse than nothing.

No idea from where you get this idea:

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ntion.html

Cover your mouth and nose with a mask when around others

You could spread COVID-19 to others even if you do not feel sick.
The mask is meant to protect other people in case you are infected.
Everyone should wear a mask in public settings and when around people who don’t live in your household, especially when other social distancing measures are difficult to maintain.
Masks should not be placed on young children under age 2, anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious, incapacitated or otherwise unable to remove the mask without assistance.
Do NOT use a mask meant for a healthcare worker. Currently, surgical masks and N95 respirators are critical supplies that should be reserved for healthcare workers and other first responders.
Continue to keep about 6 feet between yourself and others. The mask is not a substitute for social distancing.

Here in Japan any form of mask is available, no critical supply....

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... rings.html

Use of Masks to Help Slow the Spread of COVID-19
Updated June 28, 2020

Your mask may protect them. Their mask may protect you.

Full text, check link above.

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Further:

CDC calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent COVID-19 spread
For Immediate Release: Tuesday, July 14, 2020
JAMA editorial reviews latest science, while case study shows masks prevented COVID spread

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020 ... masks.html

A person would think the death total is scientifically accurate, and it should be, but in the case of this virus, it isn't. The total is not even attributed properly. That's even admitted in news sources, as I've stated before, earlier this year. (Of course any death is unfortunate.)

Neo wrote: ↑

April 28th, 2020, 4:34 pm

Also heard on FOX news this morning that many deaths that are supposed to be COVID19 were actually caused by another disease, but since the people have COVID also, COVID is marked down as the cause.

Also, hospitals receive 20% more in compensation if the diagnosis is COVID19.

I object, masks are not worthless. Masks help identify liberal morons which is certainly a useful thing.

Cornfed wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

It is literally the common cold. You should take it with the same degree of seriousness as you always have taken the common cold.

You're a Total Fool if you believe that is the cold. Tell that to the 225,000 people that are dead. The virus causes vascular problems which can damage many organs. The problems can last a few months to the rest of your life. They know this by following patients that had SARS over a decade ago. I've had 3 cousins that had it that had to go to hospital. The youngest was 24 and 7 months later she still has heart problems. The oldest is 70 and spent almost two months in the hospital.

WorldTraveler wrote: ↑

October 25th, 2020, 5:03 pm

Cornfed wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

It is literally the common cold. You should take it with the same degree of seriousness as you always have taken the common cold.

You're a Total Fool if you believe that is the cold. Tell that to the 225,000 people that are dead. The virus causes vascular problems which can damage many organs. The problems can last a few months to the rest of your life. They know this by following patients that had SARS over a decade ago. I've had 3 cousins that had it that had to go to hospital. The youngest was 24 and 7 months later she still has heart problems. The oldest is 70 and spent almost two months in the hospital.

Yes, hundreds of thousands of people die from the common cold every year. We have an ageing population and they have to die from something. I met a person who almost died from stubbing his toe. Doesn't mean I want the world shut down to prevent people from stubbing their toes. The data is in on this and has been for months. I believe I called it in early March.

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 6:29 pm

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... rings.html

Use of Masks to Help Slow the Spread of COVID-19
Updated June 28, 2020

Your mask may protect them. Their mask may protect you.

Full text, check link above.

--------------------------------------------------
Further:

CDC calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent COVID-19 spread
For Immediate Release: Tuesday, July 14, 2020
JAMA editorial reviews latest science, while case study shows masks prevented COVID spread

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2020 ... masks.html

Where is the study and evidence?

WorldTraveler wrote: ↑

October 25th, 2020, 5:03 pm

Cornfed wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 1:06 pm

Yohan wrote: ↑

October 24th, 2020, 12:46 pm

You have to take this Corona-Virus very seriously, this is not a hoax, but a strong flu-like infection which might cause pneumonia and any other life-threatening illness.

It is literally the common cold. You should take it with the same degree of seriousness as you always have taken the common cold.

You're a Total Fool if you believe that is the cold. Tell that to the 225,000 people that are dead. The virus causes vascular problems which can damage many organs. The problems can last a few months to the rest of your life. They know this by following patients that had SARS over a decade ago. I've had 3 cousins that had it that had to go to hospital. The youngest was 24 and 7 months later she still has heart problems. The oldest is 70 and spent almost two months in the hospital.

This poor sap lost all grasp of reality about 4 years ago. The stresses of the Covid era really have him off the deep end, but you have to take him in context. He's unemployed, he's a furious incel, he's been in poor health (physical and mental) on a long-term basis, and he has nothing for which to live.

All that being the case, it becomes understandable why he wants everyone to view Covid as a harmless cold. To him, no life is valuable since his has never been.