Chemtrails in China?

[The_Adventurer]

I don't really know anything about chemtrails. I never thought much about it because I have never seen one before... until today.

I was walking outside on my way to the subway station when I saw a couple of people taking pictures of the sky. I thought that was odd. So I looked up and saw this:






Perhaps some of the conspiracy experts in here can tell me. Are these chemtrails? What exactly are they supposed to be or do? Can something sprayed from up so high have any real effect on people on the ground? It seems to disperse right where it is.

[OutWest]

I don't really know anything about chemtrails. I never thought much about it because I have never seen one before... until today.

I was walking outside on my way to the subway station when I saw a couple of people taking pictures of the sky. I thought that was odd. So I looked up and saw this:






Perhaps some of the conspiracy experts in here can tell me. Are these chemtrails? What exactly are they supposed to be or do? Can something sprayed from up so high have any real effect on people on the ground? It seems to disperse right where it is.

Quite right. It is a very hazardous compound produced by these jets. Their engines are actually designed so that the chemical is produced as a byproduct of operations, that way they can claim innocence. Dihydrogen Monoxide has already killed tens of thousands and it is very dangerous to breath in, in fact, breathing it in its pure form can kill you within a minute or two. It is also very corrosive. You are lucky to have survived.

[The_Adventurer]

You're making me scared to use that dihydro-whatchamacallit to make my instant coffee.

[MrMan]

The_Adventurer, how old are you? I remember seeing trails like that behind airplanes all my life. Have they stopped doing that in recent years? Come to think of it, I haven't seen those in the US for a long time. Did the EPA get onto the airlines and make them hold back on the emissions?

[zboy1]

Sure looks like chemtrails. ...

[OutWest]

The_Adventurer, how old are you? I remember seeing trails like that behind airplanes all my life. Have they stopped doing that in recent years? Come to think of it, I haven't seen those in the US for a long time. Did the EPA get onto the airlines and make them hold back on the emissions?

Vast ignorance as usual from the conspiracy wingnuts.
Water vapor has always been a byproduct of jet propulsion. In fact, there is something called a "wet takeoff"
Where water is mixed with fuel to increase takeoff thrust.
Contrails are water vapor and other exhuast. I don't know how much the EPA has been after the industry, but big changes have taken place with engine design based on the push for fuel economy and noise reduction, which obviously can affect the amount of water vapor output.
Other factors are altitude, atmospheric conditions and the type of engine the jet is using.

Vapor trails have existed since the advent of the jet age.
When we are in Oregon we live in a flight corridor, and vapor trails are visible most clear days.

[Jester]

OutWest, if it's just vapor trails, how do you explain the fact that the Chinese observors had never seen them before?

[Jester]

Sometimes it's hard to tell a fresh chemtrail from a vapor contrail, but there are telltale signs.

-- The chemtrail lingers over half an hour, sometimes longer.
-- Rather than evaporate like a vapor trail, it spreads like a chemical fog. It is spread out by air currents and does not evaporate in the sun.
-- As the chemtrail spreads, it begins to resemble a smear of snot across the sky, reducing the sunlight, and creating an unpleasant glare rather than a bright sun. The sky is no longer pure blue. The chage in the sky's color is a telltale sign.

Here's a clear video of a an aircraft whose chemspray was quite thick, then was switched off, then clearly swithched on again.



You can't switch off a vapor trail.

[OutWest]

Sometimes it's hard to tell a fresh chemtrail from a vapor contrail, but there are telltale signs.

-- The chemtrail lingers over half an hour, sometimes longer.
-- Rather than evaporate like a vapor trail, it spreads like a chemical fog. It is spread out by air currents and does not evaporate in the sun.
-- As the chemtrail spreads, it begins to resemble a smear of snot across the sky, reducing the sunlight, and creating an unpleasant glare rather than a bright sun. The sky is no longer pure blue. The chage in the sky's color is a telltale sign.

Here's a clear video of a an aircraft whose chemspray was quite thick, then was switched off, then clearly swithched on again.



You can't switch off a vapor trail.

The pilot throttles up or down to change or maintain altitude, or he passes through a layer of air that is a different humidity or temperature. Any of those can "switch" a contrail on or off.

[Jester]

Throttle could not affect vapor trail. Vapor doesn't come out of the engines.

Air of different temperature/humidity could and does affect the vapor trail. Thats why in the old days vapor trails occurred sometimes but not always.

[Jester]

OK I'm WRONG. Engine exhaust DOES play a role in vapor trail. I thought it was just wingtip turbulence.

http://contrailscience.com/why-planes-m ... or-trails/

[Ghost]

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[Jester]

Up to now the rumor was no chemtrails in China, Russia, Iran, Malaysia.... countries that have not signed the secret treaty or joined NATO etc. Militaryt spraying by US that is publicly known to go on in Gemrany (German weatherman mentioned it on TV) cannot take place (I believe) in most 3rd world places, as US military does not have access. But when they join NATO, look out! Serbian politician, former cabinet member, went ballistic when Serbia joined NATO's Partnership for Peace (or some other minor league NATO farm team) and immediately the spraying started.

In most places it's just sprayed by civilian airliners, getting subsidies to spray. United does it, RyanAir does, probably all US airlines and all low-cost carriers. This is why OutWest sees the spraying on air route near his house. Whereas up in Los ANgeles, where military sprays regularly, you can see playful, ebullikent tic tac toe patterns sometimes. They get it done with maximum efficiency, not caring if you see them do it.

But back to the point of the thread:

WHY has China now acquiesced? It's fascinating how the ChiCom Mafia cooperates on some NWO goals (depopulation) while challenging the Anglo-Zionist Mafia on other things.

[HouseMD]

Go take some jet flying lessons. Your plane will make a contrail. It's not some super secret magic program. Buy some jet fuel and burn it, in any damn engine you like. It isn't going to nake magic chemicals. Hell, run it through a mass spectrometer if you're feeling industrious. There's nothing magic in there. It's fuel. With a known formula. And there's no magic engine that can turn hydrocarbons into non-hydrocarbons, or into anything at all that isn't a burned up remnant of its former self. Engines aren't chemistry labs.

[Devil Dog]

Were WW2 bombers spraying chemicals on their missions over Europe? Take a look at some photos of bombers flying at high altitude.

More importantly, are there any conspiracy theories that you geniuses DON'T believe? Is there anything that the typical HA member would look at and say "Well that's just ridiculous"?