Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

[Winston]

Some more funny flat earth memes.

[Winston]

On a ball earth skeptic roundtable podcast i just listened to they made a good key point that applies to alex and others:

They said that there are many people who dismiss flat earth model because it has flaws and problems. However they totally ignore the many flaws and critical problems with the ball earth model. And assume that if flat earth model has flaws then ball earth must be the truth by default. Thats a fallacy and double standard and presumptuous.

Very true. Alex does that too.

[Gali]

On a ball earth skeptic roundtable podcast i just listened to they made a good key point that applies to alex and others:

They said that there are many people who dismiss flat earth model because it has flaws and problems. However they totally ignore the many flaws and critical problems with the ball earth model. And assume that if flat earth model has flaws then ball earth must be the truth by default. Thats a fallacy and double standard and presumptuous.

Very true. Alex does that too.

Alex has scientific knowledge that is why he can overcome his religious bias.

[Winston]

On a ball earth skeptic roundtable podcast i just listened to they made a good key point that applies to alex and others:

They said that there are many people who dismiss flat earth model because it has flaws and problems. However they totally ignore the many flaws and critical problems with the ball earth model. And assume that if flat earth model has flaws then ball earth must be the truth by default. Thats a fallacy and double standard and presumptuous.

Very true. Alex does that too.

Alex has scientific knowledge that is why he can overcome his religious bias.

But I showed him the above memes. He could not answer them or explain them. He doesn't know either. Neither does NASA. So like I said: The conclusions is that all models of the earth have flaws. All we can say is that reality isn't what we've been told. You don't seem smart enough to understand that. Why? All you do is worship authority.

[Winston]

Wow check this out. The Jainism religion teaches flat earth too. See below.



Theoretical Astronomy Debunked by Empirical Reality

[Winston]

Flat Earth Simulator PC game you can download:

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=37600340

"Is the earth a globe? Why do you think that? Does your everyday life confirm that fact? Explore the alternative of the Flat Earth Simulator! An interactive simulation of the day and night cycle on a flat earth with information waypoints all over the terran plane."

Flat Earth documentary pack:

https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=21035009

Flat Earth Documentary Pack 1

23 Videos

Flat Earth - Coriolis Effect.mp4 - 4min 27s 640 x 480
Flat Earth - Ships Disappearing Over the Horizon.mp4 - 7min 29s 640 x 480
Flat Earth - Why the Lie.mp4 - 3min 49s 640 x 480
The Flat Earth Explained and Proven in 2 Minutes.mp4 - 2min 8s 640 x 480
The Flat Earth Truth.mp4 - 37min 35s 640 x 480
The Globe Earth Lie.mp4 - 16min 30s 640 x 480
The South Pole Does Not Exist!.mp4 - 23min 34s 640 x 480
Earth is Not a Planet.mp4 - 23min 40s 640 x 480
But Why Would They Lie - Mantra of the Ball-Earther.mp4 - 4min 20s 640 x 480
Dear Spinning Ball Earth Believer.mp4 - 6min 18s 640 x 480
Flat Earth - Meteors, Comets, and Craters.mp4 - 14min 46s 640 x 480
How to Awaken People to Flat Earth.mp4 - 17min 2s 640 x 480
Operation Spread Flat Earth Truth.mp4 - 12min 8s 640 x 480
The Flat Earth Society is Controlled Opposition.mp4 - 9min 13s 640 x 480
Flat Earth Longest Distance Proofs.mp4 - 4min 16s 1280 x 720
A Flat Earth Awakening Story.mp4 - 56min 34s 640 x 480
Thousands of Miles of Flat Earth.mp4 - 5min 23s 1920 x 1080
Ball Earth Tricks are for Kids.mp4 - 1min 59s 1280 x 720
Flat Earth is Not a Conspiracy Theory.mp4 - 6min 58s 1280 x 720
The Greatest Lie of All Time.mp4 - 6min 0s 1280 x 720
The History of Flat Earth.mp4 - 1h 36min 640 x 480
The Lie We Live - Life Changing Flat Earth Interview.mp4 - 1h 8min 1280 x 720
The Best Flat Earth Documentary.mp4 - 6h 13min 640 x 480

Here are a couple documentaries on Flat Earth, these will surely wake you up to the Flat Earth reality

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We have been lied to about the shape of our earth for 500 years.

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[Gali]

On a ball earth skeptic roundtable podcast i just listened to they made a good key point that applies to alex and others:

They said that there are many people who dismiss flat earth model because it has flaws and problems. However they totally ignore the many flaws and critical problems with the ball earth model. And assume that if flat earth model has flaws then ball earth must be the truth by default. Thats a fallacy and double standard and presumptuous.

Very true. Alex does that too.

Alex has scientific knowledge that is why he can overcome his religious bias.

But I showed him the above memes. He could not answer them or explain them. He doesn't know either. Neither does NASA. So like I said: The conclusions is that all models of the earth have flaws. All we can say is that reality isn't what we've been told. You don't seem smart enough to understand that. Why? All you do is worship authority.

I think he does not want to hurt your feelings and it is waste of time anyway. He thinks you are scientifically illeterate so you can not understand his reasoning anyway.

[Winston]

Eric Dubay's new audiobook "Flatlantis".



Flatlantis is an exploration into the history of Flat Earth, the mythology of Atlantis, and the mystery of Mount Meru, the alleged magnetic mountain ancient cultures worldwide believed existed at the North Pole. Beginning with a complete history of the geocentric flat Earth cosmology and subsequent gradual adoption of the heliocentric globe Earth model, Flatlantis then delves into ancient polar mythologies, early polar history/cartography, modern polar expeditions, and the myriad problems with claims made by Cook, Peary, Byrd, Scott, Amundsen, and other explorers. Finally, in a metaphysical twist, the book ends with research into Freemasonry, Christian esotericism, the Atlantean legend, Kundalini Yoga, ancient advanced civilizations and how they are all intimately connected to the North Pole.

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[Gali]

I wonder whether anyone has actually done the math on mainstream claims. For example, the explanation for why there is no observable parallax among the stars as the earth travels millions of miles around the sun is that they must be trillions of miles away. OK, so why can we still see them? No problem, they must just be vastly bigger and brighter than the sun. But does this correspond with other mainstream positions? For example, there is a limit to the size of stars before they collapse under their own weight and go supernova according to mainstream gravity theory. Does the size the stars would need to be to be seen at their claimed distances exceed this? In any case, it is claimed that the size of stars can be estimated by gravitational theory applied to stars orbiting each other and such. Would these stars plausibly be bright enough to be seen? I am confident that mainstream theory is completely self-contradictory, but it would be good if knowledgeable people could do the math to confirm this.

Alex the soul brother of Winston could do the job. Winston can vouch for him.

[Winston]

U2 Spy Plane shows Earth to be flat with no curvature? WTF? How can this be?

[Winston]

Here is something I didn't think of. On a globe earth, how could we see Mercury and Venus at night? If it is night it follows that we are on the side of the earth facing away from the sun. Since Mercury and Venus are on inner orbits compared to us, it follows that the mass of the earth should block our view of them, as it does of the sun. One might argue that the angle might be such that we could see them just after dusk and before dawn, but we can often see them hours after dusk and before dawn.

Eric Dubay addressed this question too:

MERCURY AND VENUS AT NIGHT DEBUNK HELIOCENTRISM



"In the heliocentric model of the universe, our Sun is at the center of a solar system, orbited by the planets in the order of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune. Due to this arrangement, as you can see in the following image, since Mercury and Venus are situated closer to the Sun than the Earth, an observer on Earth would have to always be facing the Sun in order to view them. If an Earth observer was on the dark half facing away from the Sun, it would of course be impossible to see Mercury or Venus because the entire mass of the globe-Earth they believe they're standing on would be in the way blocking their ability to see Mercury, Venus and the Sun. This means that in the heliocentric model, the only time an observer on Earth should ever be able to see Mercury and Venus is during the day when the Sun is also visible. For an observer on the globe-Earth to be able to see Mercury and/or Venus at night time is simply impossible.

As you can see in the following clips, however, and you can find by filming or searching for yourself, depending where and when you're shooting from, Mercury and Venus can and are both visible at night. For hours before dawn and hours after dusk, these luminaries can be seen shining bright with the Sun nowhere to be found. Again, if these luminaries were truly orbiting around the heliocentric solar system, the ONLY times they could be visible to an observer on Earth, the Sun would also be visible. Naysayers will claim that seeing these luminaries before dawn or after dusk is due to some perfect angle achieved where the Sun is being totally blocked by their ball-Earth but the inner planets are somehow still visible. When we film Venus two hours before sunrise or two hours after sunset, however, the reality is that the globe-Earth would be 210 degrees away from the Sun, with hundreds of miles of curved Earth blocking their view to anything on the other side and no line of sight possible."

[Winston]

Heres a question for you all that will blow your mind that NASA is unable to answer. I heard it on the ball earth skeptic podcast.
The question is: If the earth orbits the sun and rotates at a constant speed of 1080 mph, then how come every 6 months, when the earth is supposedly on the opposite side of the sun, you dont have to change your clock 12 hours, since by then night and day will have reversed places? In fact you should have to change your clock by 6 hours every 3 months, according to the heliocentric model of the solar system, because the earth will have completed a quarter of its orbit. Theres no way around that.
No astronomer or NASA advisor can account for this huge discrepancy in the heliocentric model. Mind blowing huh? Can you guys answer that one?

You're seeing this backwards, it's misleading logic. The 12-24 number is just a convention, it is whatever the day lasts, it already accounts for the duration of night and day on the orbit path.
To illustrate this with an extreme, say the year had two days. the earth would rotate once in half a year, and you would face the sun, for the second half the earth would rotate again and the same spot would face the sun again. There is no "night and day reversal".
Now kind of an aside: in actuality, the rotations indeed don't match the translation period exactly, the year is actually 365.25 days, so instead of messing with a 6 hour shift every year, we wait for four years and add a full day so the clock doesn't have to change.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leapyear.html
This is all matched by the evidence out there, you can verify all this in your backyard, guys like you and Adama are not being logical at all.

@droid
Eric Dubay just put out a video addressing this, explaining why this sidereal time explanation for why day and night don't flip every 6 months doesn't hold water and NASA can't have it both ways. See here. What do you think?



Eric Dubay:

One simple and definitive proof that you are not living on a spinning ball orbiting around the Sun is the fact that daytime and nighttime never switch places as they must for the heliocentric model to be true. According to the globe doctrine, Earth makes one complete rotation on its axis every 24 hours, while simultaneously orbiting around the Sun and completing one full revolution every 365 days. If this was truly happening however, as you can see from the following image, the daytime and nighttime sides of the globe would have to flip every 6 months. For a more detailed illustration of this, imagine the Sun rising at 6am in New York on the Summer solstice. After 3 months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 90 degrees from its previous position and a quarter turn away from the Sun,meaning that sunrise in New York during the Autumnal equinox should now be happening at midnight. After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be on the complete opposite side of the Sun, 180 degrees from its starting position, so that sunrise in New York during the Winter solstice should be happening at 6pm, or in other words, daytime and nighttime would have completely flipped from 6 months earlier. After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 270 degrees from its original position, and sunrise in New York during the Spring equinox should be happening at noon. In reality, as you can test and observe for yourself, this simply does not happen and remains yet another nail in the globe's coffin.Globe apologist naysayers make either one of two ridiculous claims in an attempt to excuse away this clear problem in their model. Their first defense is to claim that days are not actually 24 hours long, but instead only23:56 long, and this 4 minute difference per day fixes the math allowing day and night to flip. Now it is true that there are two kinds of days known as solar days and sidereal days, and sidereal days are in fact 23:56 minutes long, but solar days, which everyone on Earth sets their clocks by, are exactly 24 hours in duration. Sidereal days, which nobody sets their clocks by, are actually how long the fixed stars take to make one revolution over and around our Earth plane. As you can observe and measure for yourself, the constellations rotate just slightly faster than the Sun, so that they take exactly 23:56minutes to come back to their starting point, while the Sun takes exactly 24 hours to come back to its starting point. Firstly, the fact that sidereal and solar days both exist and are not exactly the same duration, is yet another proof that the stars and Sun are moving and not the Earth. If the apparent movement of the stars and Sun was actually the result of us living on a spinning globe, as we're told, then there would and could only be one duration of day, namely, the amount of time it takes to complete one full rotation. The fact that there are two different durations of rotation time for the Sun and stars just further proves that they are moving at their own unique speeds over and around a motionless, fixed Earth. Secondly , if globe apologists want to claim solar days are now suddenly only 23:56minutes, then why hasn't anyone in history ever noticed that our 24 hour clocks, which billions of people have used for thousands of years, actually fall behind reality 4 minutes every single day!? The reason is because it doesn't happen, and trying to claim solar days are the same duration as sidereal days just shows the disingenuous lengths these zealots will go to cling onto their false cosmology. Their next defense, even more ridiculous than the first, is to claim that the Earth actually must complete 361 degrees of rotation per day, and that that somehow makes up for it. They completely redefine what a "day" means and claim, instead of a day being one full 24 hour rotation of the globe as we have always been taught, a "day "now suddenly means"the amount of rotation until the Sun reaches the same point in the sky," which they say is approximately 361 degrees. With this excuse, however, new problems arise because the globe's orbit around the Sun is actually elliptical, so depending where/when during its revolution around the Sun, the Earth's rotation on its axis would have to be both speeding up and slowing down at different times of the year just to maintain their new definition of what a "day" means. But of course in their own model , the Earth's alleged rotation never speeds up or slows down and remains constant always. They cannot have it both ways, but like the kid who wants to have his cake and eat it too, these leaps of logic pose no problem for the willfully ignorant. For the fearlessly inquisitive critical thinkers out there,if you still believe you live on a big blue marble spinning faster than the speed of sound, please find some time to watch our new feature documentary, LEVEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WffliCP2dU0

[Gali]

See you can explore Flat Earth and Fake Space no problem with that but the way yo do is just wrong. That is why you need social skills to figure out how to explore these things without coming off like a total weirdo.

One can explore these things but do the work to study that stuff not just link youtube articles. See when people try to help you find a girlfriend they will not help you when you act like a annoying attention addicted narcissist.

Do Flat Earth but not in such an annoying way. So people will like you and not hate you and your life will be better.

[Spencer]

Heres a question for you all that will blow your mind that NASA is unable to answer. I heard it on the ball earth skeptic podcast.
The question is: If the earth orbits the sun and rotates at a constant speed of 1080 mph, then how come every 6 months, when the earth is supposedly on the opposite side of the sun, you dont have to change your clock 12 hours, since by then night and day will have reversed places? In fact you should have to change your clock by 6 hours every 3 months, according to the heliocentric model of the solar system, because the earth will have completed a quarter of its orbit. Theres no way around that.
No astronomer or NASA advisor can account for this huge discrepancy in the heliocentric model. Mind blowing huh? Can you guys answer that one?

You're seeing this backwards, it's misleading logic. The 12-24 number is just a convention, it is whatever the day lasts, it already accounts for the duration of night and day on the orbit path.
To illustrate this with an extreme, say the year had two days. the earth would rotate once in half a year, and you would face the sun, for the second half the earth would rotate again and the same spot would face the sun again. There is no "night and day reversal".
Now kind of an aside: in actuality, the rotations indeed don't match the translation period exactly, the year is actually 365.25 days, so instead of messing with a 6 hour shift every year, we wait for four years and add a full day so the clock doesn't have to change.
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leapyear.html
This is all matched by the evidence out there, you can verify all this in your backyard, guys like you and Adama are not being logical at all.

@droid
Eric Dubay just put out a video addressing this, explaining why this sidereal time explanation for why day and night don't flip every 6 months doesn't hold water and NASA can't have it both ways. See here. What do you think?



Eric Dubay:

One simple and definitive proof that you are not living on a spinning ball orbiting around the Sun is the fact that daytime and nighttime never switch places as they must for the heliocentric model to be true. According to the globe doctrine, Earth makes one complete rotation on its axis every 24 hours, while simultaneously orbiting around the Sun and completing one full revolution every 365 days. If this was truly happening however, as you can see from the following image, the daytime and nighttime sides of the globe would have to flip every 6 months. For a more detailed illustration of this, imagine the Sun rising at 6am in New York on the Summer solstice. After 3 months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 90 degrees from its previous position and a quarter turn away from the Sun,meaning that sunrise in New York during the Autumnal equinox should now be happening at midnight. After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be on the complete opposite side of the Sun, 180 degrees from its starting position, so that sunrise in New York during the Winter solstice should be happening at 6pm, or in other words, daytime and nighttime would have completely flipped from 6 months earlier. After 3 more months of 24 hour rotations, the globe would be 270 degrees from its original position, and sunrise in New York during the Spring equinox should be happening at noon. In reality, as you can test and observe for yourself, this simply does not happen and remains yet another nail in the globe's coffin.Globe apologist naysayers make either one of two ridiculous claims in an attempt to excuse away this clear problem in their model. Their first defense is to claim that days are not actually 24 hours long, but instead only23:56 long, and this 4 minute difference per day fixes the math allowing day and night to flip. Now it is true that there are two kinds of days known as solar days and sidereal days, and sidereal days are in fact 23:56 minutes long, but solar days, which everyone on Earth sets their clocks by, are exactly 24 hours in duration. Sidereal days, which nobody sets their clocks by, are actually how long the fixed stars take to make one revolution over and around our Earth plane. As you can observe and measure for yourself, the constellations rotate just slightly faster than the Sun, so that they take exactly 23:56minutes to come back to their starting point, while the Sun takes exactly 24 hours to come back to its starting point. Firstly, the fact that sidereal and solar days both exist and are not exactly the same duration, is yet another proof that the stars and Sun are moving and not the Earth. If the apparent movement of the stars and Sun was actually the result of us living on a spinning globe, as we're told, then there would and could only be one duration of day, namely, the amount of time it takes to complete one full rotation. The fact that there are two different durations of rotation time for the Sun and stars just further proves that they are moving at their own unique speeds over and around a motionless, fixed Earth. Secondly , if globe apologists want to claim solar days are now suddenly only 23:56minutes, then why hasn't anyone in history ever noticed that our 24 hour clocks, which billions of people have used for thousands of years, actually fall behind reality 4 minutes every single day!? The reason is because it doesn't happen, and trying to claim solar days are the same duration as sidereal days just shows the disingenuous lengths these zealots will go to cling onto their false cosmology. Their next defense, even more ridiculous than the first, is to claim that the Earth actually must complete 361 degrees of rotation per day, and that that somehow makes up for it. They completely redefine what a "day" means and claim, instead of a day being one full 24 hour rotation of the globe as we have always been taught, a "day "now suddenly means"the amount of rotation until the Sun reaches the same point in the sky," which they say is approximately 361 degrees. With this excuse, however, new problems arise because the globe's orbit around the Sun is actually elliptical, so depending where/when during its revolution around the Sun, the Earth's rotation on its axis would have to be both speeding up and slowing down at different times of the year just to maintain their new definition of what a "day" means. But of course in their own model , the Earth's alleged rotation never speeds up or slows down and remains constant always. They cannot have it both ways, but like the kid who wants to have his cake and eat it too, these leaps of logic pose no problem for the willfully ignorant. For the fearlessly inquisitive critical thinkers out there,if you still believe you live on a big blue marble spinning faster than the speed of sound, please find some time to watch our new feature documentary, LEVEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WffliCP2dU0

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[Gali]

If setting off nukes creates "nuclear winters", why don't we set off a few nukes to offset global warming?

If electricity always follows the path of least resistance, why doesn't lightning only strike in France?

What happens if a very stoppable force meets a very movable object?

If Pi is never ending, why is there still world hunger?

Is HIV considered a "retro virus" because it started to be a problem in the 80s?

Why does alcohol need proofs? Shouldn't we just take their word for it?

Do strippers in the southern hemisphere spin around their poles in the opposite direction as strippers in the northern hemisphere?

If sound can't travel through vacuums, why are they so loud?

How can we trust atoms if they make up everything?

If there's a new moon every month. Where does the old one go?

Why did ancient people bury so many buildings?

How can fish hold their breath for so long underwater?

If Corn Oil is made from corn, and Olive Oil is made from olives, where does Baby Oil come from?