Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

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Re: Is Our Earth FLAT and Motionless, Not a Spinning Globe?

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Winston wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 11:03 pm
Gali wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 10:56 pm
The diameter of the earth is around 6000 km. 60km would be 1 per cent. 120k feet is around 45km. So 40km is less than 1 percent of the diameter of the earth. That is not much.
It should be enough to see the horizon bend downward and show a little curve. Not totally flat. You can't keep raising the bar to the point where no civilian can ever go. Either way, you have no proof of a curve other than TV screens controlled by NASA.

Also if it's that hard to see the curve, then your example of boats disappearing over the horizon is definitely OUT and inapplicable. Because if the curve is that close to you, then you could easily see it at a low height and even at the top of a mountain. Either way you lose. You can't have it both ways. You definitely gotta drop the boats disappearing over the horizon proof.
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Less than 1 % is not much. Specially when you have to look at the horizon from a moving object.

Vanishing 20m is only seen properly with a high tech camera. So normally you would not see it properly because it is almost nothing relative to the size of the earth.

You are a narcissist. That is why it is all about winning and being right. It is all about feeling special . You use every whacky story for it.

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You should get over yourself and not be not be jealous because you are not special when others produce AMAZIN' stuff:

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Apparently it can be seen a bit at 100k feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpUcZXiKtfU
At 3.28 min in the vid

Better from ISS at 350 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9R4yykvqU
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Gali wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 11:52 pm
Apparently it can be seen a bit at 100k feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpUcZXiKtfU
At 3.28 min in the vid

Better from ISS at 350 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9R4yykvqU
Stunning Views of Earth From the International Space Station
The first video you posted is clearly CGI and the second some of the commenters say it's CGI.
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I asked Eric Dubay about the gravity experiment with the metal balls that Gali posted. Here's his reply:


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Eric, is this a real experiment that proves gravity as a real force? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbucRPiL92Q


Eric Dubay
1 day ago
No.

It would be an entire century after Newton published his theories on gravitation before any scientific experiment was devised to attempt to prove its existence. In 1797, Henry Cavendish, the British scientist, Freemason, and wealthy grandson of the Duke of Devonshire, created an experiment which he claimed successfully proved the existence of gravity, measured its constant, and provided accurate figures for the exact masses of the Earth, Sun, Moon, and Planets. How did Cavendish achieve this quantum leap for heliocentric pseudo-science? He fixed two large lead balls on opposite ends of a torsion balance and hung them from the roof of his shed. By watching and recording slight motions of the contraption via telescope through his shed window so his mass would not affect the reading, Cavendish claimed to have proven gravity. Two small lead balls were hung near the large ones and any motion observed towards one another was touted as being the influence of gravity.

Now, the Cavendish experiment has been widely criticized by the scientific community because never in over two centuries since its creation has anyone been able to replicate it! Firstly, the balls simply do not always attract one another as they must for the so-called gravitational constant to be constant at all. Sometimes the torsion balance turns towards the balls and sometimes away as it is impossible not to give some slight tremulous motion when interacting with it. Henry even complained in his notes how often as he was performing the measurement the contraption was still in oscillation. Secondly, since his calculated force of gravity was 10^39 weaker than the force of electro-magnetism, from which all material objects are composed, there is no control for the experiment which can factor out and positively differentiate the alleged gravitational force, from the known stronger electro-magnetic force. In other words, the balls could simply be attracting each other through static electricity, a known force existing in all things, billions of times stronger than gravity, and impossible to control for the experiment. Even though no one could replicate Cavendish’s findings, the experiment went down in history as a great success, and is still taught as veritable proof of universal gravitation in science textbooks today. https://ericdubay.wordpress.com/2018/07 ... lat-earth/
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Winston wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 9:59 pm
Gali wrote:
November 2nd, 2021, 3:49 am
Flat Earth? Horizon drop w/ Altitude!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDn2Ako1_sE
What? If you watch that white arrow, the horizon only changes by about one centimeter. Barely nothing. Come on. That doesn't prove anything. Was the camera on a drone? If so, as the drone rises, what makes you think it's perfectly level and doesn't tilt? Either way, one little centimeter doesn't mean much.

That still doesn't explain why you don't see any curvature at 100,000 feet, which you should. There should be curvature every 8 miles.

If I took you to space and you saw a flat horizon and no curvature, would you admit that you were wrong? Just wondering.

You have an agenda. I don't. I am open to any truth as long as it is demonstratable.
Eric Dubay's response to that video:

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The horizon is rising up with him the whole way and not staying where it started, proving it is a subjective vanishing line and not the physical curvature of their ball Earth. The slight difference between the arrow as it rises does not negate the fact that the horizon is visibly rising up and not the static curvature of their supposed globe. This is likely due to his camera being just slightly off from true level, as you can see videos from over 120,000 feet high and the horizon is still at eye-level of the camera.
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Gali wrote:
November 3rd, 2021, 11:52 pm
Apparently it can be seen a bit at 100k feet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpUcZXiKtfU
At 3.28 min in the vid

Better from ISS at 350 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg9R4yykvqU
Stunning Views of Earth From the International Space Station
Lots of proof that ISS is a hoax. Many hilarious proofs below. You can clearly see space bubbles in the footage of the astronauts outside the ISS. And evidence of the green screen. Also one astronaut had to be rushed to the hospital when water got into his helmet in outer space. They could not explain that.

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Winston wrote:
November 5th, 2021, 7:38 pm
I asked Eric Dubay about the gravity experiment with the metal balls that Gali posted. Here's his reply:


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Eric, is this a real experiment that proves gravity as a real force? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbucRPiL92Q


Eric Dubay
1 day ago
No.

It would be an entire century after Newton published his theories on gravitation before any scientific experiment was devised to attempt to prove its existence. In 1797, Henry Cavendish, the British scientist, Freemason, and wealthy grandson of the Duke of Devonshire, created an experiment which he claimed successfully proved the existence of gravity, measured its constant, and provided accurate figures for the exact masses of the Earth, Sun, Moon, and Planets. How did Cavendish achieve this quantum leap for heliocentric pseudo-science? He fixed two large lead balls on opposite ends of a torsion balance and hung them from the roof of his shed. By watching and recording slight motions of the contraption via telescope through his shed window so his mass would not affect the reading, Cavendish claimed to have proven gravity. Two small lead balls were hung near the large ones and any motion observed towards one another was touted as being the influence of gravity.

Now, the Cavendish experiment has been widely criticized by the scientific community because never in over two centuries since its creation has anyone been able to replicate it! Firstly, the balls simply do not always attract one another as they must for the so-called gravitational constant to be constant at all. Sometimes the torsion balance turns towards the balls and sometimes away as it is impossible not to give some slight tremulous motion when interacting with it. Henry even complained in his notes how often as he was performing the measurement the contraption was still in oscillation. Secondly, since his calculated force of gravity was 10^39 weaker than the force of electro-magnetism, from which all material objects are composed, there is no control for the experiment which can factor out and positively differentiate the alleged gravitational force, from the known stronger electro-magnetic force. In other words, the balls could simply be attracting each other through static electricity, a known force existing in all things, billions of times stronger than gravity, and impossible to control for the experiment. Even though no one could replicate Cavendish’s findings, the experiment went down in history as a great success, and is still taught as veritable proof of universal gravitation in science textbooks today. https://ericdubay.wordpress.com/2018/07 ... lat-earth/
Yeah, it shows a lack of very basic scientific common sense as well as a lack of experience in actually conducting scientific experiments at even a high school level that anyone would even think of taking an experiment like this seriously. I posted a video of some guy in a physics lab trying to replicate the experiment a while back and it was apparent that he was never going to get reliable data.
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Really good new flat earth book that contains a lot of solid proofs that no one globe earther can refute. A paradigm changer. The Kindle version is only 6 dollars.

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How can it be that for over 5,000 years, as far back as modern history allows us, that nearly every single culture on Earth believed the land we all have lived upon since our birth was known to be mostly flat, motionless and the center of just one creation we call a uni-verse, just one of many verses, of many creations?
Nearly all ancient cultures previous to the current Roman Dynasty (310 AD – present) held Flat Earth Theocosmological belief systems. I am not just speaking about one or two civilizations of our common past, but the cultures of most civilizations covering thousands of years, across all lands and races. From the Ancient Chinese, with their Ying/Yang symbolism of the dance of the Sun and Moon in circle above, to the Indian Vedic’s, Buddhists, Sumerians, Chaldeans, Babylonians, Egyptians, Ancient Hebrews, Greeks and Nordic Vikings. All had geocentric Flat Earth theocosmology. That all stars, the Sun and the Moon, were centered around our Earth signified the cosmic importance of humans in the really big picture of our universal make up. That Earth was the center for all of this creation.
The word “world” comes from the energy vortex created by the electromagnetic battery of our Flat Earth connected through the North Pole and Antarctic Circles positive and negative charges. The salt in the ocean providing the electrolyte catalyst to charge Earth’s plasma battery field. We all are contained in a plasma toroidal field of perpetual regeneration inside a closed system energy vortex which causes a “whirling” action, hence the word whirled or world.
We call it a sunrise and sunset, yet, according to the most basic of heliocentric theory, this is a grossly incorrect term, that has never been corrected for over 100 years from academia to the science community. Why? One possible reason was when heliocentrism was introduced to the public education systems of Western world, most worked and lived outdoors. Even peasants knew the Earth was still and the Sun was moving and if anyone tried to sell them that the Sun was not moving would have been met with complete disbelief and derided for sheer stupidity and the ruling governance would lose instant credibility. So what would be the correct terms for a Flat Earth movement of the Sun instead of “Sunrise” and “Sunset”?
For over the past 100 years, most world education systems continue to this day to teach little-to-none of Flat Earth history and cosmology connecting to this rich history of all our common pasts. Why would they not want us to know a narrative of our existence where the Sun, the Moon, and the Stars were placed in the sky above to help guide and assist us in our own evolution of consciousness? What would anyone gain by creating a myth so that we would feel insignificant, small and just one of billions and billions and billions of other planets, stars and life? If you were in power, would you want the minions one day to take over your power base that has been created over hundreds, if not thousands of years. The powers in charge of world propaganda, monetary policy, religion and infotainment wish to keep us fully disempowered as to our highest potential of humanities, and our own, evolutions.
From Copernicus, all the way to the creation of the Big Bang Theory by Jesuit priest, Father Gorge Lemaitre, the Vatican and the Society of Jesus have had, and still to this day, have large influence in all things Astronomy and space observation. In fact, it was Father Lamaitre, not Albert Einstein, who in 1922 created the scientific “provable” science of our common Theocosmology created an atheistic explanation of how our world came to be.

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I'm going back to the U.S. in three weeks, and have been provided with a little partial map showing the flight path, which will go from Doha in Qatar to Los Angeles. The route will take it over North Greenland. I don't have a globe handy, and perhaps someone who does can say whether this makes the slightest bit of sense at all a globe earth. It is the obvious route on a flat earth map. All flights between the U.S. and Europe follow more or less the same path -- up or down the coast of Canada and over part of Greenland.
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Check this out. William Shatner says on a talk show that cosmologists and astronomers do no actual experiments. All they do is think and write equations on a chalkboard. So theres no way they can know if anything they say is true or not. Therefore science and science fiction are the same thing. Hilarious.

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A government agent weighs in on the theory that "Flat Earth" is a CIA psy-op/psychological operation. Apparently, Eric Dubay has some ties to Virginia and the CIA headquarters there.



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Dubay has addressed the Virginia connection before. He's never been there, a different Eric Dubay.
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gsjackson wrote:
December 21st, 2021, 9:40 pm
Dubay has addressed the Virginia connection before. He's never been there, a different Eric Dubay.
But if the connection were true, of course he would deny it right? He wouldn't admit it.

Either way, people usually look like what they are, and Dubay looks like an anarchist/counter culture type of guy. So he's unlikely to be an agent working for any government operation.
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A very good objective neutral analysis of the Flat Earth Debate.

LOGIC and FLAT EARTH DEBATE (Mindshock Podcast)

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