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That's what some men say...and many times not just men, but women too. But it's worse coming from men, because females aren't capable of independent thought to the level of men. That's because men are rational and logical but women are emotional and use their "instinct" which means they make decisions on their feelings (rather than looking at the objective facts). Sadly, most men in 2021 are essentially effeminate because of feminism and how society has developed in the West.

They say "Get your life in order!" to young men (and also young women), but obviously it's not really too important for females because they get the "red carpet" in everything as long as they're average or beautiful.

What the stupid Boomers (which many Boomers are) and also Gen X (who narrowly beat the Millennials who got really f*cked by the Boomers) don't understand is that they broke the World and there are no decent jobs anymore

See all the Help Wanted? Those don't pay enough to even meet monthly expenditures in America and most nations, and especially not not anything that would allow people to "Get their life in order" because it also assumes the person will want a life (if it's possible) in that nation.

People in Anglo nations really only have one chance to get a young woman, and that's in high school or before they graduate from university. There's really nowhere else they can meet one.

The median income in the United States for 2021 is $19,306 which means half earn more and half earn under. Tell someone to get their life in order working minimum wage jobs, never being able to save or living in a car, and not ever being able to escape the wheel. Factor in taxes and inflation and the cost of living relative to wages, and it's not really that great!

You think getting a life in order changes anything? There were millionaires who purchased billboards in an attempt to get a woman.

Money doesn't mean a guy will get a girl in the West. It just means he gets to be more comfortable in loneliness and attract women wanting a provider baby daddy!

The best way to get a girl is not having a lot of money because if she's with a guy then it's not because he's rich.

Also...let's take two examples:
1. America: Most females are total sluts when they get to college. Beginning in college, many girls begin to pack on the pounds but when they start working, that's when they get fatter than a sow being fattened for the slaughterhouse!
2. Europe: A sizeable percentage of girls smoke which gives them premature aging and they are more likely on average to get tattoos (which are always ugly). Why don't they get removable tattoos or if they want something semi-permanent then why don't they get henna? It's because only a tattoo is permanent and they want to do something that's permanent because it defaces their body!

What do you think @Cornfed? Do you have anything relevant to add to this topic?

Tsar wrote: ↑

December 6th, 2021, 6:40 pm

That's what some men say...and many times not just men, but women too. But it's worse coming from men, because females aren't capable of independent thought to the level of men. That's because men are rational and logical but women are emotional and use their "instinct" which means they make decisions on their feelings (rather than looking at the objective facts). Sadly, most men in 2021 are essentially effeminate because of feminism and how society has developed in the West.

They say "Get your life in order!" to young men (and also young women), but obviously it's not really too important for females because they get the "red carpet" in everything as long as they're average or beautiful.

What the stupid Boomers (which many Boomers are) and also Gen X (who narrowly beat the Millennials who got really f*cked by the Boomers) don't understand is that they broke the World

Maybe men say this to you because your life is not in order, not because they were feminized by the baby boomers. You are hearing the male rational mind.

and there are no decent jobs anymore

I've got a decent job. I went to grad school for way too many years. I spent a lot of long hours and worked really hard through years of poverty, together with my family. Finally, I have a really decent job. There are a lot of people who get decent jobs by getting out in the workforce and developing valuable skills. Some of them take short courses. There are real estate agents, real estate appraisers, insurance agents, plumbers, electricians, and specialists in hundreds if not thousands of other fields that took short courses and got decent jobs. There are people who get out there and start small microbusinesses, selling food or t-shirts at events, pressure washing fences, etc. Getting into a decent job right out of high school without special training can happen, but it has gotten to be more to more rare.

See all the Help Wanted? Those don't pay enough to even meet monthly expenditures in America and most nations, and especially not not anything that would allow people to "Get their life in order" because it also assumes the person will want a life (if it's possible) in that nation.

Getting a job is a step in the right direction. People taking the lower-paying jobs may have to live with relatives or roommates until they develop skills and/or find a better opportunity. Generally, if you don't step on the bottom rung of the ladder, you won't make it up any higher. Maybe a rich relative dies and leaves you a helicopter to fly you to the top. That doesn't happen for most people.

People in Anglo nations really only have one chance to get a young woman, and that's in high school or before they graduate from university. There's really nowhere else they can meet one.

When I graduate college, I met young women at my church.

The median income in the United States for 2021 is $19,306 which means half earn more and half earn under.

Google searches show figures in the 30's, depending on the search term. Here is one example: https://www.google.com/search?q=us+medi ... e&ie=UTF-8

Some searches show higher numbers. This may be for full-time employees. Where do you get your numbers?

Tell someone to get their life in order working minimum wage jobs, never being able to save or living in a car, and not ever being able to escape the wheel. Factor in taxes and inflation and the cost of living relative to wages, and it's not really that great!

I remember being single with a low-paying job and those awful single filing taxes. It is rough. But other people who get to be more financially stable have to trudge their way through that stage of life, too.

You think getting a life in order changes anything? There were millionaires who purchased billboards in an attempt to get a woman.

It is a good first step if you want to marry a virgin and provide for her.

Money doesn't mean a guy will get a girl in the West. It just means he gets to be more comfortable in loneliness and attract women wanting a provider baby daddy!

The best way to get a girl is not having a lot of money because if she's with a guy then it's not because he's rich.

Also...let's take two examples:
1. America: Most females are total sluts when they get to college. Beginning in college, many girls begin to pack on the pounds but when they start working, that's when they get fatter than a sow being fattened for the slaughterhouse!

Then don't be a slut yourself, in body or mind. Find a girl who is not a slut and who is not fat. Don't go for 'most' of them. There are lots of girls throughout the world.

2. Europe: A sizeable percentage of girls smoke which gives them premature aging and they are more likely on average to get tattoos (which are always ugly). Why don't they get removable tattoos or if they want something semi-permanent then why don't they get henna? It's because only a tattoo is permanent and they want to do something that's permanent because it defaces their body!

A major turn-off. If I saw a girl with a tattoo back when I was young and single, she was out of my consideration set. But some time around the late 1990's or early 2000's, I came back to the US, and it seemed like the number of people who were done up like 'freaks' with body piercings and tats had tripled or doubled. It was not the norm in the early 1990's.

Find a woman with no tats. In some countries, they are rare.

It sounds like a traditional conservative girl might be more along the lines of what you are looking for, or the equivalent overseas. And there are a lot of countries that have different cultures, but many 'traditional conservative' values. If you want to attract one of these, you need to be the kind of man who would attract such girls.

To get your life in order to get a woman in US or Canada can take you years & years. You are better off going to a country like Philipines where even average dudes are respected and wanted. Sure you won't find the best looking filipina, but you can easily get an average looking filipina or thick filipina with good face, but offcourse with extra weight.

brownwarrior2021 wrote: ↑

December 29th, 2021, 10:19 pm

To get your life in order to get a woman in US or Canada can take you years & years. You are better off going to a country like Philipines where even average dudes are respected and wanted. Sure you won't find the best looking filipina, but you can easily get an average looking filipina or thick filipina with good face, but offcourse with extra weight.

I only like Balkan and Slavic girls. I only go for above average or hot White girls, or very beautiful girls for non-Whites that anyone in the world would recognize as very beautiful.

Any excess weight is a dealbreaker for me. I only want a thin girl.

I don't really want interracial marriage. If I ever get a non-White, it would be because I couldn't get a White girl.

I get along best in European culture. I think the Philippines would be too religious for me and while I was in Mexico, I heard there's trans-fat in the Philippines too. I also don't know about whether the drinks have sugar or high fructose corn syrup as the sweeteners. I also don't want girls that are too religious because they would be too rigid and inflexible and not into sex, and I don't want girls that are too materialistic, or expect me to give them, their family, and maybe their friends money.

At least half I see on dating apps don't have great skin clarity (meaning too many moles especially on the face) and too many have nose shapes that aren't appealing.

Any girl I go for no matter her race needs a delicate nose and great skin clarity.

I have abs, thin, almost flawless skin clarity, and that means a girl must be equal or above me in attractiveness. I would be humiliated to be seen with an ugly, fat, or less attractive girl. A girl will boost my image and she will be a "public relations accessory" for me.

If I am only going for the White-looking non-Whites, then I'm definitely going to have less luck anywhere outside Europe because non-Whites that look White have much more demand among the locals of their nation because "White features" are attractive.

If I got an Asian, which are the second best race for me, she better have features like these Asian girls:









I know ethnicities and the only Asian girls that have a chance to look like those girls are in Japan, Korea, certain regions of China, and some of the population of Vietnam. Considering that Japan and South Korea are high income and expensive there's no chance I get a girl from there, North Korea is off-limits to foreigners, and China is almost as closed as North Korea to almost everyone in the world...that leaves Vietnam. But since COVID-19, all Asia is closed to most people.

If I go anywhere outside Europe, it's going to only be as a tourist. I am never leaving Europe again.

Tsar wrote: ↑

December 29th, 2021, 11:12 pm

I only like Balkan and Slavic girls. I only go for above average or hot White girls, or very beautiful girls for non-Whites that anyone in the world would recognize as very beautiful.

Any excess weight is a dealbreaker for me. I only want a thin girl.

I don't really want interracial marriage. If I ever get a non-White, it would be because I couldn't get a White girl.

I get along best in European culture. I think the Philippines would be too religious for me and while I was in Mexico, I heard there's trans-fat in the Philippines too. I also don't know about whether the drinks have sugar or high fructose corn syrup as the sweeteners. I also don't want girls that are too religious because they would be too rigid and inflexible and not into sex, and I don't want girls that are too materialistic, or expect me to give them, their family, and maybe their friends money.

At least half I see on dating apps don't have great skin clarity (meaning too many moles especially on the face) and too many have nose shapes that aren't appealing.

Any girl I go for no matter her race needs a delicate nose and great skin clarity.

I have abs, thin, almost flawless skin clarity, and that means a girl must be equal or above me in attractiveness. I would be humiliated to be seen with an ugly, fat, or less attractive girl. A girl will boost my image and she will be a "public relations accessory" for me.

If I am only going for the White-looking non-Whites, then I'm definitely going to have less luck anywhere outside Europe because non-Whites that look White have much more demand among the locals of their nation because "White features" are attractive.

If I got an Asian, which are the second best race for me, she better have features like these Asian girls:

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I know ethnicities and the only Asian girls that have a chance to look like those girls are in Japan, Korea, certain regions of China, and some of the population of Vietnam. Considering that Japan and South Korea are high income and expensive there's no chance I get a girl from there, North Korea is off-limits to foreigners, and China is almost as closed as North Korea to almost everyone in the world...that leaves Vietnam. But since COVID-19, all Asia is closed to most people.

If I go anywhere outside Europe, it's going to only be as a tourist. I am never leaving Europe again.

If you actually spent some time in Asian countries, like Japan, South Korea and the Philippines, you would realise that the Photoshop-airbrushed and Instagram-filtered beauties you find online are artificial, unreachable models of beauty.

Japanese girls are usually quite unattractive: they might be thin as you like them, as they tend to have excellent dietary habits and enough disposable income to take care of themselves, but their bodies are typically flat chest and flat bums, no hips, bucked teeth, and so on.

South Korean girls are on average even uglier than the Japanese. The main difference is that, in their culture, resorting to cosmetic surgery, even the most extreme kind involving bone reshaping and muscle repositioning, is not a taboo. Not even for men, actually. Which is why you find all these unlikely beauties all over the showbiz, which inevitably tend to look all the same. High quality make up, effective stage lighting and post-production are usually there for the finishing touches.

There are a lot of unattractive girls and women in the Philippines, and this time not because of failure of the genetic lottery. These people often eat poor food full of industrial fats and refined sugars, syrups and starches. It's not unsual for them to maintain an attractive body shape up until 16 or 18 years of age, and then losing all of their finesse by the time they're in their 20 and/or they have their first children. As well as a food culture of quantity over quality, they are also in general too poor to afford quality cosmetics or wear quality clothing.

publicduende wrote: ↑

December 29th, 2021, 11:37 pm

...These people often eat poor food full of industrial fats and refined sugars, syrups and starches. It's not unsual for them to maintain an attractive body shape up until 16 or 18 years of age, and then losing all of their finesse by the time they're in their 20 and/or they have their first children. As well as a food culture of quantity over quality, they are also in general too poor to afford quality cosmetics or wear quality clothing.

I think that's the same thing about the United States. I can't live in a nation if quantity is valued over quality. That's why I don't like the United States too much but there are many high quality products in the US grocery stores. It's also why the food in the grocery stores in Mexico weren't even equal in quality to the United States if it was anything on a shelf.

FOr example, I can buy really quality olive oil in the EU for $6-$10 USD but in Mexico the same bottles cost $20 USD. In the US it would be maybe $12-15 USD. Anything that's quality in the grocery stores in Mexico would cost more than the US and much more than Europe. I don't think I could tolerate paying a premium price even above the premium prices of America for quality ever again.

publicduende wrote: ↑

December 29th, 2021, 11:37 pm

Japanese girls are usually quite unattractive: they might be thin as you like them, as they tend to have excellent dietary habits and enough disposable income to take care of themselves, but their bodies are typically flat chest and flat bums, no hips, bucked teeth, and so on.

South Korean girls are on average even uglier than the Japanese. The main difference is that, in their culture, resorting to cosmetic surgery, even the most extreme kind involving bone reshaping and muscle repositioning, is not a taboo. Not even for men, actually. Which is why you find all these unlikely beauties all over the showbiz, which inevitably tend to look all the same. High quality make up, effective stage lighting and post-production are usually there for the finishing touches.

I do not have enough experience with Japan to speak about that. But I spent a year in South Korea in the mid-1990's. My guess is that at that time, plastic surgery was not as widespread. Kangnam is a neighborhood in Seoul that has a lot of young people. I remember the underground tunnel area, probably coming up from a subway, and seeing lots of people in their 20's. It seemed like there were lots and lots of female 7's-- thin. A missionary who lived there decades ago said there were 5 face types in Korea. A lot of people do look very similar... from my perspective as a white man. I had a student in one class and one in an evening class and I thought they were the same guy. Still, there were probably around 5 percent of thin girls in their 20s that would merit my interest as far as looks are concerned, 8s or above based on my personal tastes for facial beauty and build. But that is probably about the same as the US. Of course, a smaller percentage of girls are thin in the US these days.

If you are only attracted to girls with large breasts and especially round buttocks, then that would probably be rare in Korea, Japan, or most of China. I spent many years in Indonesia. Many girls kind of have a rounder, wider face than I liked. Maybe 3% of girls in their 20's met my criteria for looks. there were also Chinese girls there. But it seemed like to me that there do not seem to be as many really pretty Chinese girls in that part of the world as there are in China. I can only think of one who was pure Chinese that I met who stands out as being especially pretty, though I had a close friend there for a while who looked Chinese, but was mixed, who was very pretty.

The thing is, if you go to these countries, you don't date....or marry.... the whole country. There are millions of girls walking around. If you are only attracted to 5% of women or 3% of women where you live, the woman you end up with could be in that that small percentage. And realistically, looks aren't the most important thing, either. Character is way more important. I insisted on both, but I probably put way too much emphasis on looks in my youth. My thinking was that if I were going to marry one for my whole life and sleep with one woman in my life, I wanted her to be stunning. When you get to know a woman as a person, though, then there is more to it than that. But I am glad I found someone who checked the looks box along with the other boxes.

If a woman good-looking enough to make babies with with the lights on, then she'd probably be wife material for looks. The faith and character issues are far more important. Proverbs 31:30 "Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised."

A wife should be willing to be submissive to her husband, sexually moral, honest, dedicated to staying faithful, loyal, and married to her husband for life, diligent and willing to work toward the good of her husband and her family, kind, nonmaterialistic, generous, and loving. If you end up with a knock-out who is also a narcissistic shopaholic who runs up credit card bills and fights with you over small stuff, your life could be rather difficult.

On plastic surgery, I wouldn't have wanted to end up with a girl who had had plastic surgery and had fake looks or body parts. That might be a bit of a concern in Korea. But I suppose if you date for a while you could ask.

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Tsar wrote: ↑

December 29th, 2021, 11:12 pm

If I got an Asian, which are the second best race for me, she better have features like these Asian girls:

This are above average looking girls in Asia, most of them. But girls this good looking aren't that hard to find in Korea or China. I didn't think the first one was all that cute. The last one is better looking, IMO. Everyone has their own tastes.

If a girl is religious, that doesn't mean she won't be into sex with her own husband after she gets married. if she is serious about her faith, that is one thing that may help a girl remain a virgin until marriage. A lot of girls who live in a society who still have the good since to value virginity may try to keep it to keep from being stigmatized. In societies that don't have that, faith is one of the few reasons to keep herself from defiling herself before marriage. Then after marriage, it is a reason not to have sex with anyone else.

But religious girls can be into sex with their own husbands after they get married. If she has a sex drive that she's tamed and kept pent up until marriage, she's still a human being with needs and desires, so she can take that out on her husband after they are wed. If her faith says its okay to have sex now, religion should not be a reason not to have sex. The Bible also teaches husbands and wives not to deprive one another (in the context of teaching on sex), so sex in marriage is actually encouraged. Being religious or not religious isn't going to guarantee that a woman will be insatiable in the sack.

Indonesia is predominantly Islamic, but there are also tens of millions of Christians there. The culture overall still values female virginity before marriage. It's still scandalous if a girl in the village, a relative, or whoever, sleeps around before marriage. Virginity before marriage is expected of men, also. Everyone is expected to be religious. It seems like most of the jokes and stories I heard about sex were about married couples and jokes about newly weds having a lot of sex. it's not like over here where they joke about once you get married, you never have sex again. I would imagine a girl occasionally overhears a joke or comment about young married couples having sex. That might influence the way they think.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

I do not have enough experience with Japan to speak about that. But I spent a year in South Korea in the mid-1990's. My guess is that at that time, plastic surgery was not as widespread. Kangnam is a neighborhood in Seoul that has a lot of young people. I remember the underground tunnel area, probably coming up from a subway, and seeing lots of people in their 20's. It seemed like there were lots and lots of female 7's-- thin. A missionary who lived there decades ago said there were 5 face types in Korea. A lot of people do look very similar... from my perspective as a white man. I had a student in one class and one in an evening class and I thought they were the same guy. Still, there were probably around 5 percent of thin girls in their 20s that would merit my interest as far as looks are concerned, 8s or above based on my personal tastes for facial beauty and build. But that is probably about the same as the US. Of course, a smaller percentage of girls are thin in the US these days.

I don't disagree with you. All I was telling @Tsar is that falling in love with super-airbrushed of surgically-corrected Korean models, with perfect make up and stage paraphernalia, is something that will remain in his dreams. No Asian woman looks like that, even a trendy 7 or 8 you could find in Gangnam or Harajuku.

My observation of Korean women ending up as lookalikes after surgery comes from a few articles I read a while ago, about Korean girls always asking for the same kinds of facial features and surgeons having no trouble complying. This is allegedly a collage of pageants to some national beauty contest in the early 2010's. The similarities in their faces and make up are almost unsettling.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

If you are only attracted to girls with large breasts and especially round buttocks, then that would probably be rare in Korea, Japan, or most of China. I spent many years in Indonesia. Many girls kind of have a rounder, wider face than I liked. Maybe 3% of girls in their 20's met my criteria for looks. there were also Chinese girls there. But it seemed like to me that there do not seem to be as many really pretty Chinese girls in that part of the world as there are in China. I can only think of one who was pure Chinese that I met who stands out as being especially pretty, though I had a close friend there for a while who looked Chinese, but was mixed, who was very pretty.

That's true. And how did you guess I am a boobs & ass person? I kind of lucked out with my Colombian ex-wife, who had exactly those kinds of curves. Here in the Philippines, truth be told, I found a fair share of girls with large breasts and roundish butts and well contoured hips. As I understood it, by picking Davao City, I was meant to find a larger than usual number of girls with indonesian, islamic and indian ancestry.

From the little I could observe from those I met in Bali and around the world, Indonesian girls do tend to have bigger breasts, rounder faces with bigger eyes and rounder butts, compared to Filipinas. Filipinas tend to have thinner, more protruding noses, compared to Indonesians and Malays.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

The thing is, if you go to these countries, you don't date....or marry.... the whole country. There are millions of girls walking around. If you are only attracted to 5% of women or 3% of women where you live, the woman you end up with could be in that that small percentage. And realistically, looks aren't the most important thing, either. Character is way more important. I insisted on both, but I probably put way too much emphasis on looks in my youth. My thinking was that if I were going to marry one for my whole life and sleep with one woman in my life, I wanted her to be stunning. When you get to know a woman as a person, though, then there is more to it than that. But I am glad I found someone who checked the looks box along with the other boxes.

That's absolutely true. As long as you're not looking for anything serious, or you're open to a bit of trials and errors (as I did), dating someone who likes sex and is good in bed even if (or, sometimes, because) she had a few men before, trumps any consideration about personality and the foundations of a long term relationship.

Finding a girl with both looks and intelligence, who will also genuinely fall for me (a divorced 40-something man who doesn't look like George Clooney and doesn't have the money of a company CEO), that has been and is a different ball game altogether!

I am happy you found your gem in Jakarta, back in the days. I guess being young and single, morally rooted in your Christian values, were all good cards in your deck. As you may imagine, having this kind of event happening to us in 2022, in Indonesia and even in the Philippines, would still not be impossible, but require a lot more time and luck. As some on this forum might remember, it took me 2.5 years of continuously living here to find my princess and wife, C.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

If a woman good-looking enough to make babies with with the lights on, then she'd probably be wife material for looks. The faith and character issues are far more important. Proverbs 31:30 "Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the Lord, she shall be praised."

I have never met a girl who expressly asked me to make love with the lights on. I personally get much more aroused if I can at least make the contours of her face and body, during sex. Bedside lights, ceiling cove lights or even candle lights are all perfect.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

A wife should be willing to be submissive to her husband, sexually moral, honest, dedicated to staying faithful, loyal, and married to her husband for life, diligent and willing to work toward the good of her husband and her family, kind, nonmaterialistic, generous, and loving. If you end up with a knock-out who is also a narcissistic shopaholic who runs up credit card bills and fights with you over small stuff, your life could be rather difficult.

TBH, your life might also become difficult if a man were to try and find a woman who vows to be "submissive to her husband, sexually moral, honest, dedicated to staying faithful, loyal, and married to her husband for life, diligent and willing to work toward the good of her husband and her family, kind, nonmaterialistic, generous, and loving". These are qualities that can be "natively" found in maybe 5% Filipino girls of today. Those Filipinas who exhibit these qualities, or have been well-educated to exhibit them, are so in demand that they will be engaged before they even finish college (19-20), and usually marry scion of well-to-do families.

MrMan wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 7:46 am

On plastic surgery, I wouldn't have wanted to end up with a girl who had had plastic surgery and had fake looks or body parts. That might be a bit of a concern in Korea. But I suppose if you date for a while you could ask.

The only Korean girl I have ever dated was actually when I was in Milan, in 2003. She was a Fine Arts postgrad student, quite shy (and equally boring TBH) and we mutually let go after a few weeks, as neither of us was that interested in the other. I'd rather date a pretty FIlipina with a solid C cup and firm butts, than a Korean or Latin American with breast implants that take her to a D or DD. My ex-wife actually had breast implants and wore C/D cup bras. Her breasts looked amazing in a dress, but felt like plastic balls when grabbing them during sex.

publicduende wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 11:01 am

My observation of Korean women ending up as lookalikes after surgery comes from a few articles I read a while ago, about Korean girls always asking for the same kinds of facial features and surgeons having no trouble complying. This is allegedly a collage of pageants to some national beauty contest in the early 2010's. The similarities in their faces and make up are almost unsettling.

I would not say these girls are not pretty. But they do not have the prettiest features I saw in Korea. Why would they get rid of the more Asian-looking eyes? A girl who is pretty who has those eyes looks unique.

MrMan wrote: ↑

January 1st, 2022, 8:37 am

I would not say these girls are not pretty. But they do not have the prettiest features I saw in Korea. Why would they get rid of the more Asian-looking eyes? A girl who is pretty who has those eyes looks unique.

That photo is dated circa 2013. Maybe aesthetical canons in South Korea have changed since then...

I am not such an expert of Korean beauty. My favourite Korean cutie remains the young Jun Ji-hyun on My Sassy Girl.

publicduende wrote: ↑

December 30th, 2021, 11:01 am

The only Korean girl I have ever dated was actually when I was in Milan, in 2003. She was a Fine Arts postgrad student, quite shy (and equally boring TBH) and we mutually let go after a few weeks, as neither of us was that interested in the other. I'd rather date a pretty FIlipina with a solid C cup and firm butts, than a Korean or Latin American with breast implants that take her to a D or DD. My ex-wife actually had breast implants and wore C/D cup bras. Her breasts looked amazing in a dress, but felt like plastic balls when grabbing them during sex.

My wife has occasionally mentioned the idea of getting a boob job done. I don't know how serious she was, but just in case, I forbade her from doing it. I told her I could buy some fake breasts to play with if I wanted to, and she wouldn't have to have an operation for that. She could even wear fake breasts. I'd rather play with real normal sized breasts than fake inflated ones. If she turned into one of those National Geographic women with a pool ball in a wrinkly sock, I'd still rather have the real thing than a bag of silicon gel that looks good but isn't real. She'd mention getting her lips done and junk like that, but I've forbade surgery. I wouldn't mind ointments or even botox or something non surgical if we can afford it, but I don't an artificial wife.

If I wanted one of those silicon sex dolls some of the posters talk about on here, instead of a real woman, I could go online and buy one.

MrMan wrote: ↑

January 2nd, 2022, 9:42 pm

My wife has occasionally mentioned the idea of getting a boob job done. I don't know how serious she was, but just in case, I forbade her from doing it. I told her I could buy some fake breasts to play with if I wanted to, and she wouldn't have to have an operation for that. She could even wear fake breasts. I'd rather play with real normal sized breasts than fake inflated ones. If she turned into one of those National Geographic women with a pool ball in a wrinkly sock, I'd still rather have the real thing than a bag of silicon gel that looks good but isn't real. She'd mention getting her lips done and junk like that, but I've forbade surgery. I wouldn't mind ointments or even botox or something non surgical if we can afford it, but I don't an artificial wife.

If I wanted one of those silicon sex dolls some of the posters talk about on here, instead of a real woman, I could go online and buy one.

My ex-wife got her boob job years before meeting me, when she was still working in Colombia. As you may know, in that part of the world breast implants are fairly common in women. They say it's because the typical Colombian woman has a large bubble butt and a relatively flat chest, so one or two sizes up on that side makes the profile figure look more balanced. Considering her curves looked absolutely perfect, I can't say they were wrong!

Not sure how common these kinds of surgeries are among women in Indonesia, or the Philippines. I have seen very few Filipinas, literally 2 or 3, with breast implants, usually to go from a A to a C cup. Their bodies tend to be skinny, so the chance that the implants end up looking like two plastic balls sitting on their chests is pretty high.

Kudos for avoiding getting your wife "plasticked up". A natural B trumps a fake D, I can assure you!

MrMan wrote: ↑

January 2nd, 2022, 9:42 pm

My wife has occasionally mentioned the idea of getting a boob job done. I don't know how serious she was, but just in case, I forbade her from doing it. I told her I could buy some fake breasts to play with if I wanted to, and she wouldn't have to have an operation for that. She could even wear fake breasts. I'd rather play with real normal sized breasts than fake inflated ones. If she turned into one of those National Geographic women with a pool ball in a wrinkly sock, I'd still rather have the real thing than a bag of silicon gel that looks good but isn't real. She'd mention getting her lips done and junk like that, but I've forbade surgery. I wouldn't mind ointments or even botox or something non surgical if we can afford it, but I don't an artificial wife.

If I wanted one of those silicon sex dolls some of the posters talk about on here, instead of a real woman, I could go online and buy one.

My ex-wife got her boob job years before meeting me, when she was still working in Colombia. As you may know, in that part of the world breast implants are fairly common in women. They say it's because the typical Colombian woman has a large bubble butt and a relatively flat chest, so one or two sizes up on that side makes the profile figure look more balanced. Considering her curves looked absolutely perfect, I can't say they were wrong!

Not sure how common these kinds of surgeries are among women in Indonesia, or the Philippines. I have seen very few Filipinas, literally 2 or 3, with breast implants, usually to go from a A to a C cup. Their bodies tend to be skinny, so the chance that the implants end up looking like two plastic balls sitting on their chests is pretty high.

Kudos for avoiding getting your wife "plasticked up". A natural B trumps a fake D, I can assure you!

publicduende wrote: ↑

January 2nd, 2022, 11:23 pm

Kudos for avoiding getting your wife "plasticked up". A natural B trumps a fake D, I can assure you!

I agree. Natural B (with a good shape) is better than fake D. I personally would reject a girl if she had fake breasts because I require natural. I would reject a girl with A cups because that sort of girl is boyish or looks like a child.

Decent size developed breasts, hips, and if a girl can bleed means she's ready to breed.